Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 426

Think you might do a bit better, becuase about a month ago I got a 60 for $3,300 at BB with 60 day return option that was was not a display but an open box from soneone who returned it for a larger 70. They claim their break even point is $3,200.

No warranty however for me.
Edited by timbersbimbers - 3/4/13 at 10:34am

which warranty? extended or factory? if factory, did they give a reason why no warranty?

I searched this thread for an answer to this but could not find one.

Does anyone know if it's possible to use a USB-wireless keyboard with the Elite for browsing the web?
Edited by marcusj50 - 3/7/13 at 10:06am

Hu Guys,
So I had Kevin Miller calibrate my Elite 70" last week. Kevin is very professional, nice and knowledgable. I am very happy with the results. The ISF Day, Night and THX 3D modes were calibrated. Calibration results are below for ISF Night.
-Evangelo2

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Evangelo, thanks for posting. A few quick questions for you.

If you can describe, how much of an improvement did it make to your picture? 10%? 20%? What settings were you using prior? What material have you seen a noticeable difference on (a movie title and time would be helpful) and is there anything about the calibration you're not happy with?


Thanks.

Interested in hearing about peoples experience with AutoCal on their Sharp Elite display. How accurate is AutoCal, and what can I expect from it?

I'm hesitant to purchse CalMAN just to find a less than suitable calibration by AutoCal. I'm no where near savvy enough to calibrate the Elite myself with the overwhelming amount of controls it has, so I'm considering AutoCal.

The Elite does not have a built-in web browser, so the answer is no.

Wow....I'm actually quite shocked that Kevin calibrated the gamut using 100% saturation points. Unless your set is different from the 3 sets I've calibrated, 0-80% saturation points will most likely have large errors. Also, weird that there is a bump in gamma at 90%. Could be because 100% light output is set at only 64.3398 cd/m2 (=18.77 fL), your environment for ISF night must be pitch black.

This is how 20% saturation sweep chart looks like when using 100% saturation points.


But as long as you enjoy the image, no worries!!

Wow, that is good result.
I'm impressed by blue point that's almost at target.
No matter what I tried, I was not able to move the blue to the target zone without making some thing bad to others
I also had blue points as curve above targeted line, not as strait line

If you are talking about the saturation chart I posted, then I will have to disagree with you. When I calibrated the Elite according to that chart, flesh tones and foliage were off and very noticeable.

Not to sound offensive, but have you seen an Elite set calibrated to 75% saturation targets? How do you know your colors are "spot on"?
Edited by N3W813 - 3/8/13 at 9:53am

+1

Colors FAR from linear on my 60" Elite. 75%/75% gave me better results.

FWIW Rad said it "looks spot on" not that it is.

Rad, I asked a few questions to Evangelo2 a few posts back. If you could take a look at them and answer them it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

John

I thought I read 75% on the Post Luminance chart ...

That's 75% luminance not 75% saturation. You can tell from the xy coordinates measured that the points used were 100% saturation.

I am pretty shure that Kevin Miller is more qualified than you are

Yes, he is more qualified than me....so that means I have to do what he does when it does not produce a better calibration than my own? Go ask ChadB which saturation point he uses when he calibrates an Elite....

i was just having some fun

If it's Kevin Miller who calibrated your set I am sure we can all agree he knew what he was doing, regardless of what charts were posted.

You're right, the x & y look to be in the 100% sat levels. But CalMAN usually denotes saturation as % and luminance as just a plain number. Wish they would be consistent in this.

Absolutely. He probably did a sweep but the report will only show one level. He could tell us but he'd have to kill us then . Kevin knows what he's doing for sure.

75/75 works for me. Skin tones and other recognizables are very good and there is no high oversaturation on the top end to set anything aglow. It's easy enough to do a quicky at 100/75, check the sat sweep, and repeat at 75/75. As for Kevin, he's done enough Elites to probably qualify as the most experienced. I've communicated with him in the past about the Elite specifically, and unless he's changed his ways, there is some misinformation here.

Misinformation on AVS? I've never seen that.

My Sharp Elite, I think, is dead. I've had two main boards replaced. If I reset it, and put it in THX mode my Klein gives a reading of 15,000K!!! The Klein was recertified one month ago. The set cannot be calibrated. Blue is off the charts. Sharp just had the main board replaced in it last Friday. It has had the factory reset performed several times.

I called Sharp and told them the replaced board did not fix the problem. They said since it was within 30 days, the tech would have to come back and "re-evaluate" it. Now this tech is just a board-replacer. I don't think he knows what 15,000 Kelvin even means.

My questions are this: has anyone ever seen this before, and if so how was it fixed? With the set no longer in production am I stuck with this defective unit?

Thanks,

Drury

So hence my original confusion. If Kevin does calibrate the CMS of the Elite at ~75% saturation, then why are the charts posted by Evangelo2 calibrated at 100%?

I've posted about the cause of this exact problem many times before.

When the system board is replaced, all factory greyscale calibration settings are gone. These settings are stored on the system board. When you receive a replacement system board, the greyscale settings are at 'default'. You will need to enter the factory calibrated greyscale settings in the service menu in order to bring down the color temp closer to 6500k.

Sorry guys, been busy but I hope I can asnwer some questions...

1. My room is pretty well light controlled and I only watch at night ususally as well. It is a half basement and the windows all have wood blinds so hardly no light at all at night and limitted light in the day. In the day I can switch to ISF Day which is brighter if needs be.

2. I think there is a definitie improvement in picture. I will try and find some reference points for people but honestly I ahve a 2 month old baby at home so any time I can get to watch a movie or a show is usually spent on jsut that and not tinkering like I used to love to do

3. I was using some older settings from N3W813 which I thought looked real good (thanks for the settings N3W813). They were not the latest updated settings from N3W813 without the 10 point color adjustment for Nov 12 builds (which mine is) but I may try setting those up on my THX mode for comparisson reasons All of the before calibration measurements were done using THX Mode and N3W813 older settings.

Hope this info helps guys.

-Evangelo2

And how would I learn these values? Please tell me.

You need to go into the service menu and write them down BEFORE the system board replacement. If you didn't, then I'm sorry, you will need to get a replacement TV.

Another option is if the service technician knows how to calibrate and input the factory settings. Mine didn't...