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post #13081 of 14509
Just returned the Elite guys... Im putting my money into the ZT65. Fingers crossed its a good decision.
post #13082 of 14509
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Are you talking to an Elite rep?

My bad. The message on my answering machine authorizing a return was actually from best buy. I will have to make time tomorrow to call the numbers you provided me.
post #13083 of 14509
Keep in mind the Elite and the ZT60 are two different displays for different environments. I am actually thinking of replacing my Kuro with a ZT60, but I would never replace the Elite with a ZT65. Heck, there are discussions in the plasma forum about whether the brightness can even keep up with the Kuro let alone an Elite. For me I need an all around diplay in the living room that can handle a bright sunny day and night viewing. For my bedroom TV, I am not as concerned with being bright, as long as it is at least as bright as my Kuro.
post #13084 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Mixdoctor View Post

Keep in mind the Elite and the ZT60 are two different displays for different environments. I am actually thinking of replacing my Kuro with a ZT60, but I would never replace the Elite with a ZT65. Heck, there are discussions in the plasma forum about whether the brightness can even keep up with the Kuro let alone an Elite. For me I need an all around diplay in the living room that can handle a bright sunny day and night viewing. For my bedroom TV, I am not as concerned with being bright, as long as it is at least as bright as my Kuro.

The DSE from the elite had bothered the crap out of me. The screen on the elite was like a mirror which reflected everything. Other then that it was awesome.
post #13085 of 14509
im new to this thread and i posted 3 times already asking for advise and no one is replying
post #13086 of 14509
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Originally Posted by seansingh7326 View Post

im new to this thread and i posted 3 times already asking for advise and no one is replying
Sorry man, wish I knew the answers. Not sure why others won't answer you???
post #13087 of 14509
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Originally Posted by seansingh7326 View Post

im seeing alot of complaints about the nov 2012 sets, i was wondering if just the nov 2012 sets are affected or is it all the sets that came out in 2012. i bought an elite online and it was a feb 2012 build date should i be fine ?
The Nov 2012 build is one that some people suspect. No one can guarantee that you won't have problems with other builds.
post #13088 of 14509
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Originally Posted by seansingh7326 View Post

im seeing alot of complaints about the nov 2012 sets, i was wondering if just the nov 2012 sets are affected or is it all the sets that came out in 2012. i bought an elite online and it was a feb 2012 build date should i be fine ?

I have an August 2012 built 70" and have had absolutely no issues with it. I have read every page of this thread and all of the ones on another site and there has been almost no discussion about issues with build dates other than November. There have been several people with November build dates that have had no problems as well. I could not be happier with my Elite. I can't hardly watch another TV and I have (2) 60" Sony LCD's in my house that up until I got the Elite thought looked awesome. Hope this helps.
post #13089 of 14509
Has anyone else priced the Elite extended warranty? I got an email invite which expired yesterday. I forgot to call by the deadline, but called today anyway. They did not seem to care about the invitation number (or the expiration date). They asked me when I purchased the TV, and how much I paid, before tax. I was then quoted a price of $285.59 for a two year extension past the expiration of the manufacturer's warranty. The gentleman I spoke to said the warranty company is a part of Sharp/Elite. I was wondering if it is worth the risk of Sharp going belly up. Seems like a decent price for the warranty (although obviously more than square trade).
Edited by DarrenK - 5/1/13 at 7:11am
post #13090 of 14509
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Originally Posted by octavian View Post

I Solved my discrete on/off problem

The early Elite's do not support a discrete PowerOn. I have tested with newer Elites and they work fine. Same firmware, so it must be a hardware problem. Here is my solution.

I built an IR to serial converter. I can read the IR from the remote and convert it to serial commands sent to the RS232 port. I know, I know. All that work just to get a discrete PowerOn. But it also has several extra advantages. The IR sensor is more sensitive than the built in one so I don't have to aim it anymore. Also, I can map any button on the remote to any serial command. For instance I've mapped the color buttons and the app favorites to discrete AV Modes. The red button selects Movie THX, the green button selects Movie, the blue button selects Elite Pure, etc. No more toggling through the modes to select the ones I want.smile.gif
Turning problems into solutions - I like it smile.gif. The discrete AV modes is a definite plus. Those must be really early models. I have a Sept 11 70" and discrete codes work. But they definitely cheaped out on the IR sensor frown.gif.
post #13091 of 14509
How does one check the number of hours on a display model of an Elite? I have searched this but to no avail!
Thanks
post #13092 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Very clever. I would love to know more about how you went about building the IR to serial converter, as well as how you program it. I'm perfectly happy with the workaround I came up with for the discrete power on command, but I'd love to be able to access specific AV modes as well.

I used an Atmel development board with an IR sensor(38KHz TSOP). I plan on using an Arduino Mini (Atmel board about the size of a postage stamp) with a serial level generator to shrink it down. I had to put a piece of black tape over the IR sensor though. I thought disabling the remote in the system settings would work, but then it also rejects remote commands sent through the serial port. Plus it puts up a message telling you can't use the remote. Dumb.rolleyes.gif
post #13093 of 14509
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Originally Posted by DarrenK View Post

Has anyone else priced the Elite extended warranty? I got an email invite which expired yesterday. I forgot to call by the deadline, but called today anyway. They did not seem to care about the invitation number (or the expiration date). They asked me when I purchased the TV, and how much I paid, before tax. I was then quoted a price of $285.59 for a two year extension past the expiration of the manufacturer's warranty. The gentleman I spoke to said the warranty company is a part of Sharp/Elite. I was wondering if it is worth the risk of Sharp going belly up. Seems like a decent price for the warranty (although obviously more than square trade).

So the odd thing is that today (two days after the original offer expired) I got a new email from Elite once again offering the extended warranty, this time with a deadline of October 28, 2013. No wonder the rep I spoke to did not care about the invitation number or the deadline.
post #13094 of 14509
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Originally Posted by DarrenK View Post

So the odd thing is that today (two days after the original offer expired) I got a new email from Elite once again offering the extended warranty, this time with a deadline of October 28, 2013. No wonder the rep I spoke to did not care about the invitation number or the deadline.

Do you have the phone number you called?
post #13095 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Do you have the phone number you called?

1-866-712-9887

I'd be curious what they quote you if you call.
post #13096 of 14509
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Originally Posted by DarrenK View Post

1-866-712-9887

I'd be curious what they quote you if you call.

I just got off the phone with them. Unfortunately, they do not offer extended warranties on floor models. The guy I spoke with did say that you can purchase an extended warranty on a new set anytime within the first year, but the cost of the warranty will go up over time.
post #13097 of 14509
How did he know it was a floor model? Does it say that on your receipt? All I was asked was what month I bought it and how much I paid...
post #13098 of 14509
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Originally Posted by DarrenK View Post

How did he know it was a floor model? Does it say that on your receipt? All I was asked was what month I bought it and how much I paid...

I told him it was a floor model. He didn't ask. Should I not have volunteered that information? The reason I mentioned it was a floor model is because I wanted to verify that the set did indeed have the full Sharp warranty. Surprisingly, he didn't know the answer to this.
post #13099 of 14509
As far as Sharp will know I just bought this model. I now know not to volunteer anything. I believe since these models were never sold before, the sale of the demos to us is considered a new sale.....whether the box was was opened or not, and thus the full warranty should apply.
post #13100 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Mixdoctor View Post

As far as Sharp will know I just bought this model. I now know not to volunteer anything. I believe since these models were never sold before, the sale of the demos to us is considered a new sale.....whether the box was was opened or not, and thus the full warranty should apply.

It's just a guess, but I imagine the box stores are required to send in the ID numbers of the floor models so they can enter them into the system for warranty information.
post #13101 of 14509
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Originally Posted by kdog750 View Post

It's just a guess, but I imagine the box stores are required to send in the ID numbers of the floor models so they can enter them into the system for warranty information.

This is not the case for Best Buy.
post #13102 of 14509
now more than ever..I cannot recommend buying this tv at any price, especially OB's. I was dead against this tv from day one and now with it's discontinuance, never fixed issues, and build date problems, be patient . The new shootout is on 5/10 and 5/11 and it will not have all that it would had it been in the fall, but will surely have some solid tv's and Sony's LED 4K set. I stand my ground that the Elite is an excellent LCD/LED tv, but not the best tv "ever". Let BB sell these leftovers to someone else or put them on their e-bay store. You Can do better for less money and with more reliability than the Elite Edsel.
post #13103 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

Now more than ever..I cannot recommend buying this tv at any price, especially OB's. I was dead against this tv from day one and now with it's discontinuance, never fixed issues, and build date problems, be patient . The new shootout is on 5/10 and 5/11 and it will not have all that it would had it been in the fall, but will surely have some solid tv's and Sony's LED 4K set. I stand my ground that the Elite is an excellent LCD/LED tv, but not the best tv "ever". Let BB sell these leftovers to someone else or put them on their e-bay store. You Can do better for less money and with more reliability than the Elite Edsel.

I can somewhat understand an argument against buying the 60" Elite at this point, but what exactly would you recommend as an alternative to the 70" model?
post #13104 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

now more than ever..I cannot recommend buying this tv at any price, especially OB's. I was dead against this tv from day one and now with it's discontinuance, never fixed issues, and build date problems, be patient . The new shootout is on 5/10 and 5/11 and it will not have all that it would had it been in the fall, but will surely have some solid tv's and Sony's LED 4K set. I stand my ground that the Elite is an excellent LCD/LED tv, but not the best tv "ever". Let BB sell these leftovers to someone else or put them on their e-bay store. You Can do better for less money and with more reliability than the Elite Edsel.
Sorry. My 70" looks more like a Porsche 959 Classic ... but fine if it makes you feel better rolleyes.gif
post #13105 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gene9p View Post

now more than ever..I cannot recommend buying this tv at any price, especially OB's. I was dead against this tv from day one and now with it's discontinuance, never fixed issues, and build date problems, be patient . The new shootout is on 5/10 and 5/11 and it will not have all that it would had it been in the fall, but will surely have some solid tv's and Sony's LED 4K set. I stand my ground that the Elite is an excellent LCD/LED tv, but not the best tv "ever". Let BB sell these leftovers to someone else or put them on their e-bay store. You Can do better for less money and with more reliability than the Elite Edsel.

The 4K sets will be really nice if you plan to sit 3 feet away from the screen. And there being no 4K content for the forseeable future is kind of a drawback. OLED is still more or less dead in the water because of production process difficulties. Some really nice plasmas are out this year but for some of us like me, plasma is not an option.

That leaves the inferior edge lit tech. I'm reading Sony's new 900 series can come close to the Elite but the 55" is almost $5,000. I imagine the 65" will be at least 7,000. That means you will pay more for the equivalent PQ in a smaller screen size but have 4K capabilities with no 4K content. Not a good option.

As mentioned before, I have a relatively minor problem with my 70 Elite IR sensor going bad. I'm still trying to get it fixed but Elite is pushing hard for me to just get my money back because of no techs in the area. If I get forced to go that route, I will likely just get a low end cheap Walmart TV because all signs point to everything coming out this year being complete junk unless you are willing to pay more than the Elite just to get kind of close in PQ. My old Samsung 5271F CCFL tv had much better PQ than most of the crap getting released today. Too bad I got rid of it after getting the Elite.
post #13106 of 14509
Yeah the 70" Elite has no competition unless you want to go down 5". Hell, if I find a 60" Elite cheap enough I will replace my Kuro 151HD......even though I would prefer a new plasma in the bedroom, but at let's say $2,500 or below......Hmmmm.
post #13107 of 14509
all TV went down QC wise, not just Elite.
If no QC issues on Elite than it's top one, the 2nd would be Sony 950 XBR
again Sony 950 got as many issues if not more due to poor QC

tech is tech, but QC issues make good tech isn't good and less good tech with proper QC can be better and at lower cost.

If plasma can work for you - get it over any current LCD.
post #13108 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

I can somewhat understand an argument against buying the 60" Elite at this point, but what exactly would you recommend as an alternative to the 70" model?

Nothing competes with the Elite at 70"+. If you want slightly more accurate picture, you have to settle for a 60" Kuro or 65" Panasonic. If panasonic makes a ZT series TV larger than 65" they will have my attention. You just have to pick what set will look the best in your invironment.
post #13109 of 14509
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Originally Posted by kdog750 View Post

The 4K sets will be really nice if you plan to sit 3 feet away from the screen. And there being no 4K content for the forseeable future is kind of a drawback. OLED is still more or less dead in the water because of production process difficulties. Some really nice plasmas are out this year but for some of us like me, plasma is not an option.

That leaves the inferior edge lit tech. I'm reading Sony's new 900 series can come close to the Elite but the 55" is almost $5,000. I imagine the 65" will be at least 7,000. That means you will pay more for the equivalent PQ in a smaller screen size but have 4K capabilities with no 4K content. Not a good option.

As mentioned before, I have a relatively minor problem with my 70 Elite IR sensor going bad. I'm still trying to get it fixed but Elite is pushing hard for me to just get my money back because of no techs in the area. If I get forced to go that route, I will likely just get a low end cheap Walmart TV because all signs point to everything coming out this year being complete junk unless you are willing to pay more than the Elite just to get kind of close in PQ. My old Samsung 5271F CCFL tv had much better PQ than most of the crap getting released today. Too bad I got rid of it after getting the Elite.

Why isn't plasma an option?
post #13110 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Why isn't plasma an option?

My living room has a fair amount of ambient light and I also use the TV as a monitor for a dedicated computer hooked to it. I would have image retention and possibly burn in very quickly.
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