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post #13531 of 14509
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Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

Thanks for the reply. Your thinking is similar to mine. Regarding the power supply, did you have to reset your calibration settings after it was replaced? If so, knowing in advance is important since i would need to write down all of them. Thanks again.


Replacing the IR sensor and the power supply did not affect my calibration. Do you have a professional calibration on ISF Day/Night mode? If not, I can tell you it's really worth it on this set. Really increases the WOW factor IMO. Now call Sharp and get the ball rolling towards repairing your set.
post #13532 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Hawkyguy View Post

Replacing the IR sensor and the power supply did not affect my calibration. Do you have a professional calibration on ISF Day/Night mode? If not, I can tell you it's really worth it on this set. Really increases the WOW factor IMO. Now call Sharp and get the ball rolling towards repairing your set.

Thanks for the reply. I do my own calibrations using Chromapure etc. Most of the work done in a Lumagen Radiance video processor whose 125 point calibration fixes the cyan issue. Everything done using THX mode with only a small portion done with the sets CMS (e.g. hi/lo gains). Nice to know I won't have to recalibrate.
post #13533 of 14509
All,

Need some collective wisdom and insight to potential purchase of one of these beauties. My local BB currently has both a 70" and a 60" demo/open box available. I've checked the serial numbers and the 70" starts with the "108" (not a Nov 12 build). Manager states both have been on display about a year. Not really worried about the hours, because the picture is excellent on both, spent a bunch of time playing Blu-ray and viewing both sets and dont see any real issues. I've been pestering the manager for about three weeks now and today he finally gave me his "best &final prices" (according to him). 70" for $3400 (missing remote) & the 60" for $2300 (missing both remote & stand). I was trying real hard to get him down to $3K on the 70", but it was a "no-go". Anyway, he says he'll throw in a programmable remote that works with either. Not sure what to do about the stand for the 60" as I would definitely need it.

Anyway, what are your thoughts:
1) I really would like the 70" (who wouldn't), but the price point of the 60" seem like a better deal (or is it just relative). Would be going in the basement as the home theatre TV.
2) It seems like there is a big push lately with manufacturers producing larger screen TV's (75" & up). Would I just be better to wait it out and see what happens in the next 6 months or so.
3) Does anyone know of a "universal type" remote that works with the Elite's and the proper code that needs to be entered? I will make sure it works before I leave the store.
4) How hard would it be to source a stand for the 60"?? Probably have to go thru Sharp themselves or try to make a side deal here on the forum for anyone who wall mounted and would be willing to sell?

Thanks and I have until tomorrow to make my mind up as I'm going on business for a couple of weeks and don't think they'll last.

Open to all replies and hypotheticals. Thanks in advance.
post #13534 of 14509
70" all the way. You'll miss the extra ten inches more than the cash, especially over the course of several years. I have a Harmony 880 that's been great.

I don't believe a larger set will come out in the near future that will be as good, much less better than the Elite.
post #13535 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jpell33 View Post

All,

Need some collective wisdom and insight to potential purchase of one of these beauties. My local BB currently has both a 70" and a 60" demo/open box available. I've checked the serial numbers and the 70" starts with the "108" (not a Nov 12 build). Manager states both have been on display about a year. Not really worried about the hours, because the picture is excellent on both, spent a bunch of time playing Blu-ray and viewing both sets and dont see any real issues. I've been pestering the manager for about three weeks now and today he finally gave me his "best &final prices" (according to him). 70" for $3400 (missing remote) & the 60" for $2300 (missing both remote & stand). I was trying real hard to get him down to $3K on the 70", but it was a "no-go". Anyway, he says he'll throw in a programmable remote that works with either. Not sure what to do about the stand for the 60" as I would definitely need it.

Anyway, what are your thoughts:
1) I really would like the 70" (who wouldn't), but the price point of the 60" seem like a better deal (or is it just relative). Would be going in the basement as the home theatre TV.
2) It seems like there is a big push lately with manufacturers producing larger screen TV's (75" & up). Would I just be better to wait it out and see what happens in the next 6 months or so.
3) Does anyone know of a "universal type" remote that works with the Elite's and the proper code that needs to be entered? I will make sure it works before I leave the store.
4) How hard would it be to source a stand for the 60"?? Probably have to go thru Sharp themselves or try to make a side deal here on the forum for anyone who wall mounted and would be willing to sell?

Thanks and I have until tomorrow to make my mind up as I'm going on business for a couple of weeks and don't think they'll last.

Open to all replies and hypotheticals. Thanks in advance.

If you have the space, go for the 70. At least it still has the stand. How does bby lose stuff like that? Verifiy the IR sensor is working by snagging another sharp remote and test basic functions.

See if they will take another $100 off because you have to purchase an new remote. Print the page associated with the link below and bring it to the store when you're ready to haggle:

https://secure.remotes.com/remotes/servlet/rs?da=Add&remote_type=new_orig&q_new_orig=1&q_new_alt=1&v=1&o=c&smodel=PRO70X5FD&brand_pn=SHARP_PRO70X5FD&new_remote=true&mode=large&uuid=A13737509075731

Sharp GA937WJSA Remote Control RRMCGA937WJSA
GA937WJSA Originally supplied with these Sharp Models PRO-60X5FD PRO-70X5FD . Sharp RRMCGA937WJSA New Factory Original Replacement LED TV Remote Control.
post #13536 of 14509
Looks like the 4k LG LA9700 may be a replacement tv for the Elite. Full array local dimming and IPS, can't wait to see some reviews.
Edited by XBRSteve - 7/13/13 at 6:57pm
post #13537 of 14509
Can't wait to see the price on that beast...
post #13538 of 14509
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

If you have the space, go for the 70. At least it still has the stand. How does bby lose stuff like that? Verifiy the IR sensor is working by snagging another sharp remote and test basic functions.

See if they will take another $100 off because you have to purchase an new remote. Print the page associated with the link below and bring it to the store when you're ready to haggle:

https://secure.remotes.com/remotes/servlet/rs?da=Add&remote_type=new_orig&q_new_orig=1&q_new_alt=1&v=1&o=c&smodel=PRO70X5FD&brand_pn=SHARP_PRO70X5FD&new_remote=true&mode=large&uuid=A13737509075731

Sharp GA937WJSA Remote Control RRMCGA937WJSA
GA937WJSA Originally supplied with these Sharp Models PRO-60X5FD PRO-70X5FD . Sharp RRMCGA937WJSA New Factory Original Replacement LED TV Remote Control.



Thanks to all for the replies, keep them coming!
Edited by jpell33 - 7/13/13 at 7:43pm
post #13539 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

70" all the way. You'll miss the extra ten inches more than the cash, especially over the course of several years. I have a Harmony 880 that's been great.

I don't believe a larger set will come out in the near future that will be as good, much less better than the Elite.

Thanks, deep down I know you are right, as I would probably second guess myself and have buyer's remorse for not "going big".
post #13540 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

70" all the way. You'll miss the extra ten inches more than the cash, especially over the course of several years. I have a Harmony 880 that's been great.

I don't believe a larger set will come out in the near future that will be as good, much less better than the Elite.

Thanks, deep down I know you are right, as I would probably second guess myself and have buyer's remorse for not "going big".
post #13541 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Sick Mother View Post

Can't wait to see the price on that beast...

With the appearance of 55" and 65" models, the price of admittance into the UHD club is closer to what mere mortals can afford—in this case, the 55LA9700 lists for $6000, while the 65LA9700 carries an MSRP of $8000.

From Scott Wilkinson
post #13542 of 14509
If there is a 70" Elite to be had for $3,400 it pretty much makes a $8,000 65" UHD a non-starter, especially when no 4k content is available. Still a ways to go for UHD.
post #13543 of 14509
Looks like the 4k LG LA9700 may be a replacement tv for the Elite. Full array local dimming and IPS, can't wait to see some reviews.
Edited by XBRSteve - Yesterday at 9:57 pm




I have the LG LV9500 nano LED local dimming TV, it has 2300 LED'S and 280 zones and was the first for LG.
IF LG doesn't put stupid, cheep Plexiglas on the front, it should be a winner!
post #13544 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jpell33 View Post

All,

Need some collective wisdom and insight to potential purchase of one of these beauties. My local BB currently has both a 70" and a 60" demo/open box available. I've checked the serial numbers and the 70" starts with the "108" (not a Nov 12 build). Manager states both have been on display about a year. Not really worried about the hours, because the picture is excellent on both, spent a bunch of time playing Blu-ray and viewing both sets and dont see any real issues. I've been pestering the manager for about three weeks now and today he finally gave me his "best &final prices" (according to him). 70" for $3400 (missing remote) & the 60" for $2300 (missing both remote & stand). I was trying real hard to get him down to $3K on the 70", but it was a "no-go". Anyway, he says he'll throw in a programmable remote that works with either. Not sure what to do about the stand for the 60" as I would definitely need it.

Anyway, what are your thoughts:
1) I really would like the 70" (who wouldn't), but the price point of the 60" seem like a better deal (or is it just relative). Would be going in the basement as the home theatre TV.
2) It seems like there is a big push lately with manufacturers producing larger screen TV's (75" & up). Would I just be better to wait it out and see what happens in the next 6 months or so.
3) Does anyone know of a "universal type" remote that works with the Elite's and the proper code that needs to be entered? I will make sure it works before I leave the store.
4) How hard would it be to source a stand for the 60"?? Probably have to go thru Sharp themselves or try to make a side deal here on the forum for anyone who wall mounted and would be willing to sell?

Thanks and I have until tomorrow to make my mind up as I'm going on business for a couple of weeks and don't think they'll last.

Open to all replies and hypotheticals. Thanks in advance.

I wen through a similar situation 2 weeks ago. I got myself a demo 70" Elite, with missing remote. It does have the stand though. My SN also is similar to yours. Email the Elite support and they will tell you your manufacture date. It is most likely August 2011.
You can try buying an Elite replacement remote unit, but why not get the Logitech Harmony remote? I got one yesterday and works great with the TV, plus all my other units. I got the 650 model.

I do have the "pulsing issue" on this set. I highly recommend to check for this issue before buying. I can guide you how to test for the issue. One of Blu-rays that absolutely drives this TV nuts with pulsing is "Behind Enemy Lines". I can provide picture settings for this test as well:


AV Mode - Movie THX
IVC - Local Dimming On
OPC - Off
Backlight - -4
Contrast - +23
Brightness - +3
Motion Enhancement - FluidMotion
Gamma - 0
Everything else is default or Off

Good luck ...
post #13545 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jpell33 View Post

All,

Need some collective wisdom and insight to potential purchase of one of these beauties. My local BB currently has both a 70" and a 60" demo/open box available. I've checked the serial numbers and the 70" starts with the "108" (not a Nov 12 build). Manager states both have been on display about a year. Not really worried about the hours, because the picture is excellent on both, spent a bunch of time playing Blu-ray and viewing both sets and dont see any real issues. I've been pestering the manager for about three weeks now and today he finally gave me his "best &final prices" (according to him). 70" for $3400 (missing remote) & the 60" for $2300 (missing both remote & stand). I was trying real hard to get him down to $3K on the 70", but it was a "no-go". Anyway, he says he'll throw in a programmable remote that works with either. Not sure what to do about the stand for the 60" as I would definitely need it.

Anyway, what are your thoughts:
1) I really would like the 70" (who wouldn't), but the price point of the 60" seem like a better deal (or is it just relative). Would be going in the basement as the home theatre TV.
2) It seems like there is a big push lately with manufacturers producing larger screen TV's (75" & up). Would I just be better to wait it out and see what happens in the next 6 months or so.
3) Does anyone know of a "universal type" remote that works with the Elite's and the proper code that needs to be entered? I will make sure it works before I leave the store.
4) How hard would it be to source a stand for the 60"?? Probably have to go thru Sharp themselves or try to make a side deal here on the forum for anyone who wall mounted and would be willing to sell?

Thanks and I have until tomorrow to make my mind up as I'm going on business for a couple of weeks and don't think they'll last.

Open to all replies and hypotheticals. Thanks in advance.

I did this exact thing on the 70". I got it for $3300 without the remote. One thing I did to get them down was to get into the service menu and check the hours. I pushed the issue on the number of hours and got them down. Honestly, I didn't care, but it was good leverage.

One other benefit of getting the Demo model was it came calibrated. Blu-rays look stunning right out of the gate.

Make sure you have a BB Rewards card. I got $65 in rewards from this purchase. I picked up my blu-ray for $5 a month later using the rewards certificates.

Grab it quick before it's gone.
post #13546 of 14509
Make sure the tv will still be warrantable by elite. And request the store manager to make sure there is no mention of "open box" on the receipt. You don't need the extra grief if you have to make a claim.
post #13547 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jpell33 View Post

Thanks to all for the replies, keep them coming!

I would suggest to go for the 70" if you like to watch Movies. Bestbuy has 3x on rewards points going on now so that is another form of discount.
post #13548 of 14509
Having my Pro-60 calibrated right now, can't wait to see how it looks when I is done!
post #13549 of 14509
Does anyone else's set take about 1-2 hrs to warm up? I know TV's warm up but my 70X5's colors look off for the first couple of hours or so, usually leaning to blue. It looks nothing like the way I left the set from the night before. Is this normal for this set, Should I just do a reset and start over?
post #13550 of 14509
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Originally Posted by rx74ray View Post

I wen through a similar situation 2 weeks ago. I got myself a demo 70" Elite, with missing remote. It does have the stand though. My SN also is similar to yours. Email the Elite support and they will tell you your manufacture date. It is most likely August 2011.
You can try buying an Elite replacement remote unit, but why not get the Logitech Harmony remote? I got one yesterday and works great with the TV, plus all my other units. I got the 650 model.

I do have the "pulsing issue" on this set. I highly recommend to check for this issue before buying. I can guide you how to test for the issue. One of Blu-rays that absolutely drives this TV nuts with pulsing is "Behind Enemy Lines". I can provide picture settings for this test as well:


AV Mode - Movie THX
IVC - Local Dimming On
OPC - Off
Backlight - -4
Contrast - +23
Brightness - +3
Motion Enhancement - FluidMotion
Gamma - 0
Everything else is default or Off

Good luck ...
Every set has it to some extent or another - it's inherent in the IVC algorithms and in my eyes a trade-off for negligible haloing as well as the excellent blacks and contrast. Also some people are more susceptible to it than others. It's definitely affected by the contrast / brightness / gamma settings.
post #13551 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Mixdoctor View Post

Does anyone else's set take about 1-2 hrs to warm up? I know TV's warm up but my 70X5's colors look off for the first couple of hours or so, usually leaning to blue. It looks nothing like the way I left the set from the night before. Is this normal for this set, Should I just do a reset and start over?

This is not normal at all. LEDs should achieve full brightness almost instantly. Something is wrong with your set.
post #13552 of 14509
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Originally Posted by Mixdoctor View Post

Does anyone else's set take about 1-2 hrs to warm up? I know TV's warm up but my 70X5's colors look off for the first couple of hours or so, usually leaning to blue. It looks nothing like the way I left the set from the night before. Is this normal for this set, Should I just do a reset and start over?

you should try OPC off
post #13553 of 14509
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

You should try OPC off

I thought OPC automatically dims and brightens the picture based on the ambient light in the room. How would this make the set take longer to warm up?
post #13554 of 14509
OPC is always off...... It even happens in ISF modes too where I don't think there is any control of OPC. The funny thing is I have not seen pulsing so far.
post #13555 of 14509
I had my Elite Pro-60 ISF calibrated today by Robert Busch from Busch Home Theater (Northern Cal) today. It was amazing to see the difference in color afterwards not to mention how my grey scale was. I was using settings I found online and they were way off. Robert was very thorough and explained step by step what he was adjusting. Back to my movie marathon!
post #13556 of 14509
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Originally Posted by XBRSteve View Post

I had my Elite Pro-60 ISF calibrated today by Robert Busch from Busch Home Theater (Northern Cal) today.
Thanks for posting your calibration comments. I've added a link to your post in the flat panel (post number two) lists that are linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post.

If you have further comments to make about your audio or video calibration, it would be great if you could use the edit command to add them to your original post. Enjoy. smile.gif
post #13557 of 14509
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Originally Posted by jpell33 View Post

All,

Need some collective wisdom and insight to potential purchase of one of these beauties. My local BB currently has both a 70" and a 60" demo/open box available. I've checked the serial numbers and the 70" starts with the "108" (not a Nov 12 build). Manager states both have been on display about a year. Not really worried about the hours, because the picture is excellent on both, spent a bunch of time playing Blu-ray and viewing both sets and dont see any real issues. I've been pestering the manager for about three weeks now and today he finally gave me his "best &final prices" (according to him). 70" for $3400 (missing remote) & the 60" for $2300 (missing both remote & stand). I was trying real hard to get him down to $3K on the 70", but it was a "no-go". Anyway, he says he'll throw in a programmable remote that works with either. Not sure what to do about the stand for the 60" as I would definitely need it.

Anyway, what are your thoughts:
1) I really would like the 70" (who wouldn't), but the price point of the 60" seem like a better deal (or is it just relative). Would be going in the basement as the home theatre TV.
2) It seems like there is a big push lately with manufacturers producing larger screen TV's (75" & up). Would I just be better to wait it out and see what happens in the next 6 months or so.
3) Does anyone know of a "universal type" remote that works with the Elite's and the proper code that needs to be entered? I will make sure it works before I leave the store.
4) How hard would it be to source a stand for the 60"?? Probably have to go thru Sharp themselves or try to make a side deal here on the forum for anyone who wall mounted and would be willing to sell?

Thanks and I have until tomorrow to make my mind up as I'm going on business for a couple of weeks and don't think they'll last.

Open to all replies and hypotheticals. Thanks in advance.

That seems like a good deal. I picked up a 70" open box from BB yesterday. Sticker price was $4,200 and they came down to $3,800. The only thing missing were the 3d glasses which they gave me two pairs off the shelf. I wish I got it for $3,300 with no remote. This is replacing my sony XBR950 which had really bad banding and then the Panasonic ZT60 which has a horrible whining noise coming from the fans. I've got high hopes!
post #13558 of 14509
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Originally Posted by johnBoston123 View Post

This is replacing my Sony XBR950 which had really bad banding, and then the Panasonic ZT60 which has a horrible whining noise coming from the fans ...

Interesting. Do all the Panny's have noisy fans? Did you try to exchange yours for a quieter one? Ignoring the fan noise, what did you think of the ZT's picture quality? I'm thinking about possibly getting a 60" for my bedroom.
post #13559 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Interesting. Do all the Panny's have noisy fans? Did you try to exchange yours for a quieter one? Ignoring the fan noise, what did you think of the ZT's picture quality? I'm thinking about possibly getting a 60" for my bedroom.
.

The picture quality was the best I've seen. There were no banding issues, dead pixels, blacks were black, etc. You really couldn't ask for anything better. From what I've gathered all the ZT60s have the same issue, it's more of a design issue that is accentuated in certain environments. With the back case off of my tv there was hardly any fan noise. With the case on there was a bit of a howling noise. When the tv was on the wall it tripled the noise. I dont have a tv stand so I can't say for sure that you wouldn't hear it but some people have complained with their tv on a stand as well. Some people posted that they received two or three tvs and all had the same issue so I wasn't going to waste another day at home waiting for a delivery. The only issue with the picture that I had which wasn't terribly noticeable until after I read about it on the forum was the last line of pixels (?) on the left side of the screen was always blue and on the right it was always green. It was really only noticeable in lighter scenes. I also noticed it on the BB floor model.

The Elite and the ZT were on display next to each other and the only difference I saw was the Elite being brighter and having better sound from what I could tell.
post #13560 of 14509
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

I thought OPC automatically dims and brightens the picture based on the ambient light in the room. How would this make the set take longer to warm up?
OPC in a bright room is simply irritating as hell with it's frequent fluctuations in light changes but it takes about ten seconds to turn off.

Sharp has been marketing OPC for over 8 years and IMO having owned three Sharps it is not only useless but annoying as hell real quick the way it modifies the light.

To me, a more than useless feature (as I and others reporting here over the years find it annoying) they need to stop marketing but it's so easy to turn off but it's not a feature Sharp should be bragging about IMO and experience. - sort of a dumb ass marketing bullet that few use after experiencing it.wink.gif
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