Originally Posted by alettiere
Are you currently having IR issues with your Panasonic or are you merely worried that you might
have problems with IR? I own a VT60 and I never had any issues with image retention until I got it calibrated and the contrast was boosted to 100. I'm considering doing pretty much the same thing you're doing.
Oh my god I am so sorry I didn't respond. Been busy and hadn't had time to look at the thread. One of the things I was admittedly busy doing was finding ways to cull the Best Buy website for open box deals, and a couple of days ago I *finally* cracked it in a way that was MUCH easier to browse by altering the URL string a bit.
The fruit of those hours of time I should have spent being a productive member of society is that I finally found myself a nice 60 inch Elite, one of 3 total within 1200 miles of the Midwest (not that I was really willing to travel 1200 miles, but I wanted to see just how many might be out there).
So today I drove to Aurora, IL from MO and with MUCH care and tweaking in an Aviator with a rather worthless cargo area arrangement, I carried home an open box 60 inch Elite. The TV itself is in beautiful shape but was missing the remote, and likely a customer return (might have been a demo, haven't checked the hours yet). My Harmony 300i controls it fine so I don't really give a damn. This one is also a "1088" serial number, whatever the hell that means. My journey this morning did not start out well, as the Aurora store refused to hold it for me as it was open box, and wouldn't even sell it over the phone. I realize this is corporate policy, but when someone tells you they are driving 200 miles it's *probably* a good idea to bend the rules and use your empowered judgement. I know some stores have put OBs behind the front counter for me in the past, but the employees were simply doing what they understood was the policy and I can not blame them for that, they definitely tried to ring it up over the phone but it wouldn't work. So I was 100 miles down the road by the time I found out there was no way it could be held, but I pressed on. Finally made it and found the TV sitting in something of a new concept for some BBs called a "Clearance and More Room". I find these set off rooms to be a huge mistake, this store was STANDING ROOM ONLY and even then only a few flies would wander in every so often. As a result of all that I assume, them not selling it to me over the phone ended up being somewhat of a positive, because if they had, and I had just picked it up at the front, I never would have seen the "EVERYTHING IN THE CLEARANCE AND MORE ROOM AN EXTRA 10 PERCENT OFF" sign. So it ended up being 1557 plus another 10 percent off for a total of 1400 plus tax. The cashier girl kind of tried to weasel out of the discount but I kept reiterating to her and the manager that the sign said *EVERYTHING* and had as much emphasis on everything as my capital letters do (plus an underline), so they let me have it. I think the receipt and her screen ended up saying something like "4000.00 discount" which gave me a chuckle.
There was also an 11 or 1200.00 piece of REALLY nice furniture for 737 and all the furniture was an extra FIFTY percent off! But I just didn't have the room nor the gumption to wrestle it home. That's a GREAT deal for anyone in Chicago who needs a great looking TV credenza thing.
Anyhow, I digress. The screen burn issue on the Panasonic was clearly evident but is probably more isolated to a pretty specific type of TV watcher who watches a LOT of networks that have the bugs on the bottom. As the Panasonic broke in it seemed to me like the effect was lessening, but after a day of Velocity I had the stubborn arrow down at the bottom and a day later it still hasn't left. Sure, I can watch enough other content or zoom in to make it go away again, but eventually I'm going to ruin the TV this way. There's just no two ways about it, and it's a shame to ruin something so beautiful. My initial out of the box impressions for the ELITE are great, though I consider it more of a VERY VERY NICE general purpose toy than the serious machine the Panasonic was. But it's a serious machine for people who watch a lot of movies, and I simply do not. Perhaps as I tweak the Elite more and more (keep in mind I have a slight prejudice toward plasmas so that's going to take time to overcome, if ever) I will get more immersed in the picture. So far all I've done is set all my inputs to THX Movie like the Panasonic, turn down the brightness and backlight a bit, and turn off all the extraneous video processing things. One thing I do love is the monolithic look of the TV, just spectacularly beautiful and goes with my other (older, REAL) Elite gear which I love.
For anyone who's curious, the other Elites I had located were in Ocoee FL (1799) and the one I had been watching in Owasso, OK. However the Owasso one is not officially for sale as far as I know and may never be, it is in service limbo at the moment and I gave up on waiting for it. I also found a handful of HX929s and had not gotten as far as seeing if there were any HX950s but I sure didn't see any of those (the Elite was always my #1, the Sonys are kind of meh). I was originally looking at the Elites back when the last few trickles of 60s were 2500, but glad I waited in the end. BB was my only real source for this TV, as buying a "used" one outside of BB would have meant no Elite Advantage warranty.
I also swiped this cute little piece of paperboard someone must have clipped together back when the TV first came out before I left the store...
I promise... no more TVs (knock on bezel, wood and anything else).Edited by Playdrv4me - 12/22/13 at 8:56pm