Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 51

+1. Shake my head every time I see the guy post.... it's hilarious. Was going to say something myself a couple weeks ago but held back... touche.

Anyone know somewhere in GTA (Canada) where we can go to get a peek at these new Sharp displays?

Hey guys, don't wanna hijack the thread into a BB/Mag discussion, but I have to chime in. I'm a core Home Theater employee (non-Magnolia) and I'm truly sorry to hear about the poor experience you've all experienced in Magnolia. If your Best Buy store has a Magnolia Home Theater, or "MHT," for short, than yes, a core Best Buy HT employee certainly is able and allowed to help you out and I do it all the time. When you ask to play your own demo material on a particular set, and are ever told you "can't," yes, the employee is just being lazy. If there's a Blu-Ray player attached, then there's no reason you can't bring your own stuff in and demo it. I just tell customers that as long as it's family friendly then I don't have a problem with it. It's sad to hear that Magnolia employees don't know the basic differences or advantages in the products we carry. My stance - and I've clashed with management before on this - is that the Elite is an $8,000 TV that targets enthusiasts, and it's ridiculous to expect enthusiasts to be sold simply by watching Transformers on this set on Elite Pure with IVC and film mode cranked to high - the Elite is a TV that needs to be explored before it's purchased, which is why I'm always glad to break out the remote if a potential customer asks. I can also say that at least in the Magnolia in my store, that no complete idiots work there, and they're all fairly familiar with their product.

Judge Judy, is that you?

As far as Kuro Killer, I'll take D-nice's view that he won't replace his Kuros with the Sharp Elite unless they stop operating.

Interesting, I had the same view. The Elite is a nice set. But until my 500M dies or turns red. I'll stick with it. I'm just happy to know now that if and when it does die. There is a tv worth upgrading to. And maybe by then it will be quite a bit cheaper. Happy viewing

Being a previous Kuro 151 owner, I would not call the Elite a "Kuro Killer", because, the Kuro is a damn fine set by all standards- tops, A+++.

However, since the Kuro line is no more (sadly), and after having demod / explored my new Elite 70 thoroughly today, I can firmly say it is a "Kuro replacement" and definitely on par with Pioneer's standards of excellence.

The blacks are simply astounding, as is the color / depth. I'm finding myslef not missing my Kuro 60 at all, really, and not exaggerating in the least. I have gone through all of the top available 65" displays (both LCD and plasma) since March and have returned them all, as they did not stack up even close to my Kuro's picture and performance. The Elite has been pure viewing pleasure so far, and I'm looking forward to a proper calibration at some point, but there is very little info available on doing this at present.

As for price to value, well, let's say Pioneer did produce a 70" Elite plasma- You know that baby would probably sell for $10k. Look at the price of Panasonic's 85".

I don't think the true measure of the Elite as a "Kuro Killer" is whether or not Kuro owners are dumping their Kuros for the Elite, which evidently some are and some are not. The better question is, if the Kuro suddenly went up in flames, would you want another Kuro (if available) or the Elite?

Unlike the VX300, I can actually listen to what VE shootout say this weekend comparing Elite with Kuro.

I'd be happy with either one. The only prob is I needed a larger screen than the Kuro 60, so really, the Elite is the only choice for me

cool I am eagerly awaiting to find out how the sharp elite compares to not only the 2011 panels but to the best Kuro (500m or 101D). It's happening this weekend for those who may not know.

The Elite. I still have my 151 and watch the Elite almost exclusively.

hey ken ross have you try any games system?

Prediction?

Straight ahead... the Elite will win. Both look fantastic.

Viewing angles the Kuro slays it.

I still want an Elite so bad...

Heh. No.

Im not criticizing anyone. Im just pointing out how he feels the need to type "kuro killer" in every one of his post. It's ridiculous. How does that not bother you guys?

Owners thread yes, but this is a new high end set that supposedly challenges the kuro. So enquiring minds are just curious.


What does all that have to do with you having a permanent hard on for the term "kuro killer"? As i said the first time, you have an opinion on the TV. Thats cool. Nothing wrong with that. But. You. Keep. On. Repeating. That. Term.

Thats not normal.

I don't get it?

Sorry Rick, not a gamer.

np thank you

I would take my new 70 inch Elite over my 141 as well.

I have been playing Rage on the 360 and the Ico/Shadow of the Colossus on the PS3. I also played some God of War 3 and Dead Space 2 the other day just to see how they look compared to when I originally played them on my Pro 141 Elite. I have never seen games look as good as they do on the new Elite. I don't notice any lag and the controls seem as responsive as they were before. Shadow of the Colossus is in 3D and looks incredible. It actually make the game more fun and little easier to play, due to the depth that the 3D brings.

I was very Happy with my Kuro, and could of been Happy with it for a long time. The 70 inches is a plus and without losing any Video Quality. The new feature's or Gimmick's, whatever you think are a nice Add On. It was nice to see the TV hook up to my wireless network and actually use it with No Problems. The increase in small detail resolution is very noticeable and I like it. The Colors seem to POP a little more, just enough to be Quite Noticable this has to do with both the increase in small definition making a sharp edge on the colors as well as Black level. The speakers built into the Elite, used for day to day are not as good as the Kuro. The Off Angle viewing is not the best, although some say it's the best they have seen from a LCD/LED. I don't care I don't like it. Is it the Best Video I have seen in a Home enviroment ? Yes without a doubt this is the best Picture I have had in my House or seen in any store. I have not seen any difference in the ability of the two displays setting side by side at handling Motion. I am not a Gamer.
Now would I have bought the TV for this much Money over the Kuro if I didn't have the CASH funds available ? NO, It's not that much difference in picture and some of the Add On's I will never use.
I am Older and have worked all my life to afford these type of thing's. I have No Debt and this is what floats my boat.
But if you want to see the Best Video I have ever seen from a display and you have the funds in Cash. Go get you one, It is really Good.
Next year and the year after that and the year after that, I think all manufactures will have to step up to the plate and make a better Display. God I Hope So.
If your in need of a Display Now, I would do it all over again in a heart beat.
Glenee

Have you notice any 3D Crosstalk ?

No, not at all.

I popped in to check out the 70 series yesterday and was quite impressed. I did some minor tweaking but nothing in detail but it had a great picture...

Boy 70 inches is perfect. I would love to step up as my Sony XBR8 seems small now. I thought the 55 was perfect a couple years ago ugh. I need to think about it. I still feel my XBR8 is one great display but what a difference 65 or 70 is. Wow...

I was a big fan of the Pioneer displays and yes they had great blacks etc but I think it's time to let go of that nothing better stuff especially if you want a larger display. I just don't see how anyone could not enjoy some of the higher end displays available today. I would give up on the Pioneer to move to 65 or 70 and size DOES matter. I have a 50 inch Pioneer in the bedroom and still going strong and did appreciate the Pioneer displays.

I did spend some time with the 65 Panasonic Plasma and need to check it out again but the blacks didn't seem inky to me all be at at more than half the price of the Sharp. I do need to spend some more time with it.

I think the Elite is a great display and 70 inch seems perfect. Yet another display to ponder. What a shame to consider moving the XBR8 to bedroom duty. This is getting expensive....

Rick

I wouldn't give up the PQ and move up in size. I am too used to the kuro but that's just me.

My interest in the Elite (and I'm sure mostly all others) is because it's on the same level... give or take some pros and cons... and the screen size bump.

70 inches of TV is amazing.

Is anyone else finding dead pixels on their Elite?

Using Disney WOW, I found 2 dead pixels on my first 70". I had it exchanged...the second one also has 2 dead pixels (in a different location than the first). I ran the pixel flipper overnight hoping they would magically start working, but no.

I do realize they are not noticable unless looking for them, however at this price I would expect to see none.

Am I simply unlucky with these 2 sets, or is no one else looking for them?

Hey AuralXTC - did you see that list of 4 recomended retailers for the GTA from: http://elitelcdtv.ca? Try the "Find A Retailer" link at the bottom right.

Anyone here ever dealt with any of them? Can I post their names here? (if so: Kromer Radio, Brentview Electonics, Altronics Stereo 2000, Toronto Home of Audiophile) I wouldn't want to disparage of any them strictly by their websites, but I certainly wasn't impressed with any of the sites.

I haven't dealt with any of them, so I'm not sure if they are any good or not. I'm surprised BBR wasn't on the list. I tried contacting some of them about the expected arrival date of the Elite's in the GTA and got nothing more than a non-commital "mid-October".

Cheers,
JD

Why you so mad, bro? Like you said, it is just my opinion that I support with facts. Like the Elite's superior brightness of 140fl and superior black levels of .0000 with LD, 70" size vs 60". 3D capability etc.
You ask any expert and the Kuro is considered the reference set to which all other displays get compared, because it is that good.
The fact that I call the 70X5 a Kuro Killer is because finally, after so many years, there is a new reference set to which all new sets will be compared.
If it upsets you so much to hear, you can simply click ignore because I would rather get this thread back to discussing technical questions.

What height are you guys mounting your 70X5 at? I usually prefer to have the middle of the screen at eye level, but that puts the bottom of the screen only about 24" off the ground, which seems to low.

This is probably single handily the best description I have seen presented in the forum when comparing the two. The Kuro should be applauded for what it was (and still provides to those who own it) while the Sharp Elite should be applauded for what it is (and available). Those who use terms like kuro killer, fanboy etc. must feel the need to make up for some other area of inadequacy.

that is like THD on a receiver..you can't hear it,only measure it...so why quote what you cannot see...only to visible to a machine, but not to the naked eye

there is no such thing as a KURO killer..there is only a new non KURO ELITE LCD tv by Sharp..like comparing apples to oranges

No and haven't specifically looked. However, if I had any that were sticking out so as to effect PQ, I think I would have seen then given the number of test patterns I have seen during calibration. Being too anal doesn't pay IMO.

That was one of the impressive things I noticed relative to the Sony 929. The Sony was good, but had a fair amount of crosstalk. With the same source, I see virtually no crosstalk on the Elite.

Johnny, I think you're gaining both PQ and size. Win win.