Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 52

I may not be an advocate of using the phrase "Kuro Killer" with all posts, but nonetheless if the blacks are blacker than the Kuro, the full screen whites much brighter than the Kuro (if you like that), color on a par with the Kuro, it does sound like a better picture, no?

The one thing the Elite can't match is the Kuro's viewing angle. But that's about it.

[quote=akio74;21050616]Is anyone else finding dead pixels on their Elite?

Using Disney WOW, I found 2 dead pixels on my first 70". I had it exchanged...the second one also has 2 dead pixels (in a different location than the first). I ran the pixel flipper overnight hoping they would magically start working, but no.

I do realize they are not noticable unless looking for them, however at this price I would expect to see none.

Am I simply unlucky with these 2 sets, or is no one else looking for them?[/QUOTE

i didn't have any dead pixels, but i had one stuck pixel on my 60". it was in the upper left quadrant of the screen. it would stay blue no matter what was on the screen. not noticeable from more than three feet away, but i agree that at these prices there should be none. i also tried some power cycling, pixel flashing, pressure, all to no avail.

my replacement arrived today. so far i don't notice anything, but i will be going over it with a fine tooth comb tonight.

LOL. So now specifications are irrelevant, measured performance is irrelevant, pictures are irreverent, expert opinions (Kevin Miller) are irreverent and my own eyes are irreverent.
In your eyes the KURO will be the best display until the end of time. If that is your opinion, despite the facts, than fine. You are entitled to it. Can we please get back to intelligently discussing the X5 series technical aspects?

move on please

nice white jacket..just kidding as I can see your reflection in the screen taking the photo.Specifications are relevant but not a selling point to the average consumer is what i was trying to say.To yourself as well as others here and a lot of other threads,they are very important if not critical.No insult was meant in any way.

I am assuming the Sharp Elite is the TV on the left.....and the TV on the right is some model of a Kuro. My question (and I am not trying to start anything, just curious) is what picture settings is that Kuro using?
I know camera pictures are not good means to compare TV's, but that Kuro picture looks messed up. As in not even close to what it is capable of. Defective? Dynamic picture mode? Because that is nothing *nothing* close to what an ISF calibrated Kuro looks like.
Again, not starting an argument, just curious what's wrong with the Kuro in that picture. Not really helpful to put an Elite next to a defunct Kuro and make a comparison, nor is it helpful to make comparisons with pictures period.

Can I expect to start seeing more hands-on reviews of this display once the shootout is over?
I am interested in a CNET type review that breaks down every little aspect of the display, not just the picture itself, such as input lag during gaming, etc. Also curious to start seeing some post-calibration results (color tracking, color temperature, etc).

I really want to trade-up to the 60" Elite (since I feel it's time to go from 50" to 60" in my room) but gaming is a huge aspect of my use, so input lag is a big factor, and I also want to see what this thing can do after calibration. Definitely being patient and waiting (which is unusual for me)...just hoping that reviews and results will start coming out hand and foot after the shootout (as long as it wins, of course).

Ken- Do you have an Elite 60/70 at home? I have to attest to the extremely generous viewing angle on this set. That sort of blew me away, it is not something I had expected. There is no "usable" difference on viewing angle on the Elite vs my past Kuro. I say "usable", since even with the Kuro, too far off to the side does not make for a decent viewing experience. The Elite IMO is perfectly on par with the Kuro for usable viewing angles, you'd have to get pretty extreme close and to the side, or up close and laying right under it, and not in any spot you would ever actually watch a TV at. The only degredation I noticed when going way overboard to the side is the image looks a bit skewed / compressed vertically.

Question- Is there a sticky anywhere with recommended picture settings for BD playback, and other sources like DirecTV? I'm using HDMI1 for DirecTV and HDMI2 for BD. Also looking for general information on calibration.

BTW, if you need direct HDMI source input IR codes, and have a universal type of remote that has an "IR Database", the Kuro 141FD HDMI direct input IR codes work excellent.

The picture is taken with flash photo. The black you see on the Elite is the actual screen... the blacks you see on the Pioneer Kuro is the blue material that makes up its screen.

If you're watching TV in the sun.... this will be an accurate representation of both panel's performance.

Charlie Sheenin' it up I see Ken.

I am working on the means to get one as we speak. I was more than impressed with Elite when I saw it. Reminds me of when i saw the Kuro in a dim room for the first time. Literally blew me away.

That 70 inches playing Batman... wowzers.

my 70" had three stuck at first, they finally woke up and all is clear. no dead pixels however...

"to each there own" as they say, but i disagree any plasma is still superior over the elite. the ips panels that lg uses blow the uv2a panel that sharp uses.

With the extremely bright capability and pitch blacks, do any owners experience eye fatigue when watching in the dark? Does anyone use a backlight? I think it would be really cool seeing that amazing contrast in a totally dark room, but I'm afraid after a while it could get tiresome.

I had one stuck pixel in the upper right hand corner, but it came back to life on it's own! I've noticed that a lot of people who don't even have this set are fueling the flames for the "Kuro vs Elite" debate. I have also noticed that some of the members who have both a Kuro Elite and a Sharp Elite(myself included) have stated that the Sharp Elite is better in many ways. I love tvs-not a specific brand. I do like the more high end models, but it would not have mattered to me if Sharp had put this tv out simply under their own brand, I still would have gotten it. The tv is simply the best in it's class right now.

Once the shootout is over, plus we have some reviews from C-Net, ChadB etc it will be a lot more credible as to whether or not this set raises the bar for PQ to an all time high. Till then I wait and wonder. New owners 'reviews' are not always accurate...they dropped a ton of cash and want their new toy to be number one. Hopefully it is! I would love to know a better set is finally available when my Kuro dies.

Yet another thing that totally blew me away- the 3D is razor sharp!

I don't know how they got this LCD panel to be so "black" - it is as black as my past Kuro 151. With no signal, or an all black signal, you can't even tell it is turned on.

I think you will find exactly what you asked for to all Questions at another Forum called HDJ Here

Official Sharp Elite ProxxX5FD Owners Thread
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Well, if they have a better panel they sure don't know how to make use of it. I have looked at the LG's, not impressed. I really didn't care what brand I ended up with, just wanted the hands down best large screen (65"-70") picture. The Elite, even with it's supposedly inferior Sharp panel, is hands down the winner.

So you are essentially saying a Vizio plasma is superior to the Elite, simply because it is a plasma? Your comment does not make a whole lot of sense. Do you own an Elite set?

I truly think that will be the Verdict.

Glenee- thank you!

viewing angles........ do i own this set? how about one of each.

The Elite Pure mode is not pumped up. You were looking at a set that was initialized in "store" mode. When you first set up the Elite, it asks you for "home" or "store" mode. Store mode is brighter overall, for use in the often overly lit showroom floor.

I have done A<>B with Elite Pure vs THX Movie, and they are similar with very subtle differences. It seems to me that the Elite Pure has a tad less contrast than THX Movie. You have to set it to "dynamic" to get any sort of pumped up colors.

I'm telling you, Magnolia is doing more harm than good with representing this Elite set. They operate like a hack shack, hire (mostly) uninformed and indifferent workers (and in many cases - no workers!). IMHO they should stick to low / mid budget brands as that is all they are (barely) capable of managing.

Checked out post #1435 and nothing there?

I dont know about you but I looked like an idiot at best buy walking back and forth trying to see if viewing angles were an issue lol Didn't really seem to notice anything that drastic.

Viewing angles issue is like plasma's BI issue. Both sides love to throw them at each other lol (lcd vs plasma sides)

So you own a Vizio, an LG and an Elite? Quite the range!

I honestly don't see any issue with viewing angle on the Elite unless you're standing directly to the side of it, up really close, or laying on the floor directly under it, up really close. Compared to my Kuro 151, there is no difference in usable viewing angle range. At the point the Elite picture starts to look a bit skewed from side-angle viewing, you would not normally be sitting like that in the real world, regardless of TV display type. Even my Kuro started to look a bit funny at those extreme angles.

Sent you a PM.

LOL- I resemble that remark.. I think the 'angle walk-by test' is standard fare, eh?

I really can;t see any difference within a realistic usable range. And I have been a long time die hard Kuro owner. I mean, if you plan on watching your display from a 75 degree side angle or from laying on the floor looking up, I guess just buy a cheap plasma because that's about going to suit your needs. Otherwise, re-think the seating arrangement or go with a projector.

But really, you have to get to some extreme angles to start losing reasonable experience. Same thing is going to happen on a plasma.

True that a lot of LCDs suffer from poor viewing angle range, but this set does not have that problem.

Also depends on the content you are watching, I saw the 70" in BB and paused it on a black screen with white lights and stars and it looked great in the center but when I started to move a foot to the right the blooming started to become a little more obvious and at 45 degrees I could clearly see bluish areas around the clustered stars. In the sweet spot though I couldn't see any blooming and it was a very pleasing, high contrast image and would get this TV over a VT30 anyday. A Kuro Successor, yes.

k_lewis, try and see white credits on a black screen next time at an angle.

"fanboy", "kurokiller", etc. are terms used only to inflame others in my opinion. Better is also a subjective matter and it's great that the Sharp Elite provides one of the best pictures available and it's probably best to describe it as that rather than a "killer" of something. I have neither set but just enjoy keeping up to date on the technologies for future references so I have no dog in the "fight".