Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 104

Originally Posted by pinktri

changing the topic for a second can anyone help me out? When using the apps such as youtube or netflix, how do you guys deal with audio when using an AVR. Do you use the optical audio out to an input on the AVR and switch the input on the AVR every time you use an app? Is there a better method? Also if I use the mini jack out on the elite to an analog cable on my AVR will it be 2.1 or will I be able to use my center channel 3.1?

Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist

And some of us with Dish DVRs have no such option. We must select a default resolution, the highest of which is 1080i.

Originally Posted by ManWithAPlan

Yeah, that sucks, trade in that crap-tastic DVR for one that has a 'Native' mode. Perhaps you've already tried that and they don't offer one or something.

-Brian

Originally Posted by pinktri

I agree with what you're saying but how come the feed on my 600m looks soooo good for the exact same game? Even my old first gen 720p panny in my bedroom looks much better. Can't wait for weekend so I can test more football games. Maybe it has something to do with the fluorescent lights because both games were played at night? I don't know.

Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist

I don't believe any of Dish's DVRs, including the Sling-loaded ones, offer such a picture mode setting. Apparently the setting was available during a software beta earlier this year or last, but was removed from the final software due to possible consumer confusion over what the setting does. My understanding is that companies like Dish calculate how many support calls a new feature will generate, and make a cost-vs-benefit analysis on whether to include a specific feature.

But I've noticed this "pulsing" via three distinctly separate components and two different data paths. I can see the issue on my Dish DVR as well as my PS3, both of which are routed via my Denon AVR (pass-thru, video processing off). PS3 video mode is set to "Automatic", Dish DVR is set to 1080i. I have also seen the issue while watching Netflix content using the native app (direct data path, no AVR, no option for RGB vs YCbCr).

Originally Posted by pinktri

Here's a really poor action shot from last night but you can see in the middle of the screen it's really white or high contrast looking. When viewed from my other tv there is no hint of this and the field, uniforms and helmets look deep.

Originally Posted by BFJ 96

LED are meant to be brighter, hence why it would look different.

Originally Posted by pinktri

changing the topic for a second can anyone help me out? When using the apps such as youtube or netflix, how do you guys deal with audio when using an AVR. Do you use the optical audio out to an input on the AVR and switch the input on the AVR every time you use an app? Is there a better method? Also if I use the mini jack out on the elite to an analog cable on my AVR will it be 2.1 or will I be able to use my center channel 3.1?

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

Unless I'm misunderstanding this, if your connected via HDMI from your AVR to your Elite, why would you need to change audio? Ah wait, you don't have ARC on your receiver correct?

It didn't occur to me that the audio return channel enables audio from the TV to go straight to the AVR. Hmm, I guess you'll need to use that optical cable.

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

So are you saying that the Elite looks great with all your other channels, compares favorably on those channels & sources with your 600, but falls short on those two games you watched?

If that's the case, I have no idea why that would be. I don't know why that one type of broadcast would be like that. If the greens were so weak on the games, I'd think that same issue would reflect too in other broadcasts with green. Anything with green grass or other things 'green' such as you'd see in movies, sitcoms, dramas...anything with greens, would manifest itself there too.

But it seems you're only seeing this with those games.

Originally Posted by pinktri

I know it sounds crazy but it's what my eyes are telling me. 2 football games played at night is a small sample size so i'll report back on saturday and sunday.
The only other thing I can think of is the STB but they are the same model for both tv's. Believe me I wish I did not have to write these things but like I said outside of football (maybe its just night games) and standard def viewing (my kid's shows) the Elite clearly is better and I'm very please with the picture. I hope this does not deter anyone from buying the elite.

I've tried to play with the contrast and brightness but it does not help the washed out look. It's as if I'm watching the elite from a slight angle and the colors have shifted or look washed.

Originally Posted by pinktri

thanks airgas, not too much sitcom viewing yet but I will and update when I get a chance. I live right next to Abt and have a very good friend who works there. I'll definitely be on the look out. Sad to see if you're done with the elites, what next?

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

He's getting a 19" Vizio.

Originally Posted by airgas1998

I was thinking more along the lines of that stunning 19" coby that bb has.

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

Brian, I thought he had already used 'native' output on the STB, but maybe that was another poster. The only problem using native output IMO, is the constant resynching the display must go through as you cycle from a 1080i channel to a 720p channel and back again. Historically I've found this flashing and delay annoying enough, that I've set my boxes to a fixed 1080i output and I've been happy. I'm not sure if it's the fact that the Motorola STB have decent enough scaling, but the slight difference in PQ between letting my Kuro/Elite do the conversion on 720p>1080p vs the STB, is not worth the annoyance for me of the delay & flashing. I know others feel differently, so it's just how it hits you.

For color space, I agree, I've always used YCbCr on all my non-PC components.

Originally Posted by Glenee

There are alot of Fine Displays out there in your price range and I doubt you will ever see any difference.

Originally Posted by cf181user

What does that mean in my price range? I just said for the price not for my price. It Maybe better than the Kuro in terms of fearures, but it's definitely not a Kuro "KILLER". Like i said maybe it was the lighting or the Geek Squads calibration that bring out the best in display.

Has Chad B, D-Nice, or one of the pro calibrators gotten there hands on one of these and done a review?

Originally Posted by cf181user

It Maybe better than the Kuro in terms of fearures, but it's definitely not a Kuro "KILLER". Like i said maybe it was the lighting or the Geek Squads calibration that bring out the best in display.

Has Chad B, D-Nice, or one of the pro calibrators gotten there hands on one of these and done a review?

Originally Posted by pinktri

Kevin Miller has:

http://www.**************.com/showth...klit-LCD-Panel

edit: wow really? I can't link to another forum?

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

"Killer" is in the eyes of the beholder isn't it? I have both the Kuro Pro 151 and the Elite and I prefer the Elite's picture.

Kevin Miller has done a review on it as have a couple of other websites like this one. Enjoy reading it.

http://www.hereshow.ca//Hands-onRevi...-inchHDTV.html

Originally Posted by airgas1998

linking to another forum site is forbidden..

Originally Posted by airgas1998

linking to another forum site is forbidden..

Originally Posted by airgas1998

all you have to do to get rid of that pulsing is to sell it to some avs member.lol

Originally Posted by N3W813

Where can I buy additional 3D glasses for the Elite?

Originally Posted by rogo

Native mode is borderline unusable on DirecTV DVRs as well. It's so ridiculously slow that you basically can't channel surf anymore if it's on. I do what you do and the results are sufficient.