Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 110

I had checked out the 55VT30 when I was looking at the 60 Elite the other day. I personally would not trade the elite for the VT30 BUT $4k is alot of extra cash. If $ is not an issue I would keep the Elite as to me I think the picture is superior to the VT30. Not to say the VT30 is not great, as it is. Not sure this helps any but I would take the Elite over the VT30 any day ( $ not withstanding).

Ok great this is what I want to hear! I also have a pc witha gtx 580 that I would hook to the Elite 60 inch. Would you say the uniformity (DSE)is good for gaming( was not able to test this)? Also running pc games at native 1080p at 60 fps must look INSANE on this tv! Did you use game mode? Also was local dim turned on ( standard, low etc..)?

Any pics of the pc games on this tv would be greatly appreciated!!

Also, going from a 46 to a 60 was a positive with gaming? Would gaming look better on a smaller set or running native on this tv still make the pc games look really good??

One Elite owner just changed from that Panasonic to the Elite because of the Elite's superior black levels.

Exactly. The VT30 will most definitely come close in motion and color, but will not live up to the outstanding black levels and contrast ratio of the elite.

I tell ya, I've been dreaming of this tv for years. I am finding few flaws with the elite. Now I'm still in my honeymoon period with it, but it really is fantastic.

you said it, i jumped out of the elite arena for various reasons. i purchased an 65vt30 in it's place. i knew within 30 seconds that i made a poor decision. the elite excels with cr and mll just incredibly well. yes, the cost factor between the two is huge, but i felt that at least with the elite in my lr it is the best option, and a display that will be able to perform to my standards for at least 2-3 yrs. the elite really is that good...

Havent really tried online gaming, so cant say for sure. For single player games lag is not really an issue, or at least I didnt see for a couple of hrs of BF3 I played. I was on the PC mode, will try more gaming and Game mode and post if I find any issues...Will try starcraft and upcoming skyrim. But then again unsure if lag is something that will effect those kind of games (assuming you aren't playing starcraft competitively)

Mine is connected via a 590, and interestingly enough it detects the tv as a Pioneer. However the display drivers are still the microsoft generic PnP ones.

seriously? search is your friend

It all depends on your perception, gaming wont be as sharp as playing on the 2560 x 1600 resolution monitors as those resolutions are too good and those panels are IPS state of the art panels.

But the sheer size makes it look awesome, at least for me.
I used to play on a 52" LCD for the last 2 years, and now moving to a 70 is just beautiful. Sitting at about 7.5 feet away it looks really great.
Closer might give you eye strain or you might see pixels, but at that distance for me it looked amazing. BF3 looked superb, i even tried it in 3D mode though had to reduce resolution to 720p due to HDMI 1.4 limitations.

Also, i posted a pic of Rage (PC) on it, few posts above...

In my older 52" Sony LCD, I had to disable sound over HDMI otherwise the colors were not that great
Had to follow this http://currysauce.org/2010/03/20/how...raphics-cards/
At the moment I don't see similar issues with this TV but I had to bump up the digital vibrance a bit in the nvidia control panel

Sorry if # 1 has already been covered -

1) Has anyone confirmed with Sharp/Elite the recommended wall mount(s) for the 70"?
2) I'd definitely need a tiltable mount as the TV would be mounted relatively high above a mantle, so I'd need to tilt the top out a bit to better direct the screen to the seating level. Should I also get an articulating/arm mount? Is it easier to get in behind the TV to mess around with the wires, etc.? Would it project the TV out much further from the wall compared to a tiltable mount?

Thanks,
JD

P.S.: I saw a 60" Elite this past weekend under much less than ideal conditions. The store was more like a mini-warehouse with gear (awesome audiophile gear though) piled up all over the place and no real home theater type set up. The TV was mounted high up on a wall and I couldn't really get far enough back from it and there was also no place to even sit down. Lighting sucked as well. I think it was also in store/torch mode, which the owner said he preferred! I tried to look at it in THX mode, but I think it was still being torched since it was in the store setting? Even with all that, the TV was still very impressive in terms of black levels, contrast, detail, motion, and sharpness. Colour looked good as well, as I know the Cyan issue is fairly limited and hard to spot. This is all 2D as I wasn't able to test 3D. I spent a little bit of time there looking at a Panasonic VT30 plasma under the same conditions - also a nice looking TV, but to my eyes the Elite produced the better PQ overall.

Did you have the VT30 calibrated?

Chances are that wouldn't have improved his black levels Jim. No need for calibration to see how black the blacks can get.

Just got my PRO-70X5 this morning, and the picture is just incredible. Unfortunately, it had a dead sub-pixel, so I sent it back. The delivery people were cool, but the warehouse manager sounded 'less than pleased'. Thank goodness for Best Buy 30-day return policy.

I'm nervous that I'll not be able to get a dead/hot-pixel free TV prior to my 30-days being up. Here's hoping, however.

Sanus LL11 works perfect with the Elite and is .55 inches deep

Its not.

Hey, I work at Mag/BB, and your 30 days should start over with every new unit...you might check into it, but that should be the case.

I had the 60 inch Elite. Great TV. Beautiful picture. Just couldn't dial it in to my liking and hated the off axis viewing.

Contrast and black levels to knock your socks off. Just couldn't live w/ off angle viewing. I guess I am too much of a plasma guy. I guess I'm going to have to eventually get used to and LED because thats where we are headed.

I am extremely happy w/ my VT30 though. Although I will say. My VT30 is in my Man cave....a dark, dark place.

I need some help with the measurements on the 60". I'll soon be purchasing this set, and it will be sitting in a wall unit. My concern is the center speaker. The depth of the wall unit is just over 13" (the same depth as the stand). Questions: How much room do I have from the front of the television to the front of the stand? How much space do I have from the top of the stand platform to the bottom of the screen? If I can't place my center above the television, I might need to sit it on the stand platform. Just need to know what my clearance is.

Thanks,
-anthony

Good luck getting a TV with NO stuck pixels. I have never owned one without a stuck or dead pixel.

Really? I'll totally have to check into that then. If so... fantastic!

So let's say the TV lasts 7 years or so, which is probably a median ownership for a TV like this. That's north of 2000 days. That $4000 difference is <$2 per day, or 1/2 a latte at a well-known coffee chain.

Is it worth it?

Let's say that TV lasts you only 5 years. There's a $9000 difference between a BMW 535 and a BMW 550 (to start out). Over 5 years, the depreciation hit is north of 60% -- yes, even on a BMW. So that's more than $5000. I mean both are BMWs. Both are getting you there in style with solid performance and nice features. (Most of the core features are identical.)

Is it worth it?

I should add that the Elite is larger and that'll be true every day, whereas your faster BMW might not be faster every day depending on traffic. It's also true that should we want to enjoy a bright picture on game day (emphasis on day), the Elite will clearly outperform the plasma -- more like an M5 vs. that 535. It's also true that the Elite consumes significantly less power. That won't save the planet in and of itself, but it's a good contribution if you're into such things.

Is it worth it? Maybe or maybe not. But it's certainly not black and white.

It's not easy, but takes a few times. My last TV wasn't damaged (Samsung), but it took many TV's for the one before it to be flawless. Was 3-5 Sony Bravia's (I don't remember).

Computer monitors has been 50-50.

I'm normally particular about it, but I'm extra particular in this case since it's 8,000 freaking dollars. For that much, the TV should start the car for me in the morning and pack a lunch. I'll settle for no dead/stuck pixels though.

That sounds like one of those infomercials:

"Just pennies a day"

You can always break it down to minimize the difference but the bottom line $4k is a big chunk of change. I agree the Elite is probably the best set out on the market but not within many buyers budgets and not a candidate for best bang for the buck nomination.

That's a personal call that nobody but yourself can or should decide. The Elite is the best available right now but like you have noticed it comes at a hefty price tag. The VT30 is also a quality set and likely to give you at least 90% of what the Sharp Elite will give you so is $4000 worth about 10% gain? If you want the best of the best, keep the Sharp Elite. If you want a fair amount of cash back in your pocket, well?

People talk about a $4,000 difference. Wow, look online and you can find deals that will knock your socks off on the Elite 60 and 70. I thought long and hard before I bought on off the internet but am so glad I tried it. Mine seems to be perfect at a fraction of retail.

So how did you quickly check for the dead pixel at delivery or was it that noticable?

+1

I am sure retailer's "love" your business. Glad I am not in retail and you are not my customer.

Good luck

there is a huge difference between a dead pixel and a stuck pixel:

I would agree that a stuck pixel (always on) is a defect that would not be acceptable: many stuck pixels 'fix themselves' in a day or two of use but if they don't then a return is in order

a dead pixel is more common: ISO standards in this industry set criteria for the number of dead pixels allowed for a panel to still be considered acceptable: more weight is given to dead pixels near the center of the screen

There is no such thing as a perfect panel...

my opinion only

the problem is it's not a car ..it is a tv...so in today's market for a first gen tv, it's way too much to spend when next years model will be cheaper and improved

and as an attendee at the shootout..the ELITE did not outperform any plasma other than the crappy LG.....Samsung was placed first and the Panny 2nd so it's time to come to terms with the reality with that fact

also a buyers beware to those gray market internet sellers..fingers crossed you don't have any issues that require using the warranty

if you have money to burn the ELITE is for you..if you are a smart shopper,it is not

There is no correct answer for everyone. In the current technological era where the greatest display today is obsolete in 2 years, it is a tough call. That being said if someone has the money and wants to purchase an Elite, it might be worth it to them.

In my opinion the 60" Elite is not worth twice as much as the 55" 929, but its only an opinion and its not my money.