Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 274

I think it may depend on your receiver. If you're using a second cable you'll need to change your receiver to whatever input you plugged the second cable into. If your receiver uses ARC, you still may need to select something on (TV, whatever), or it may automatically switch over, not sure.

Yes, its absolutely scene dependent. I rarely noticed DSE on my Elite, but on the scenes where it was noticeable it was VERY noticeable. Most noticeable on white moving backgrounds (like say a hockey game). Every time the camera pans in a hockey game you will see the DSE. Maybe its less noticeable in HQ animation because white tends to be a purer white (no artifacts) whereas a hockey rink has lots of slight color variations that your eyes track and see dim/brighten though the DSE? I can't say for sure... I did watch quite a bit of anime on my Elite and don't remember seeing any DSE while watching, but I also can't remember any scenes that would illustrate the problem.

It's difficult to take a picture of DSE, because its an artifact thats most noticeable in a moving picture. Not sure a still shot would do the problem justice.

Its not too important, I can still use Roku for netflix. And I could run an optical out of the back of the set and put it in the receiver as an aux.
Was thinking the netflix on the Elite might be better, but the Roku is still showing on the Elite as well.

Something strange has happened when I use my Oppo 93 Blu-ray player, I get not audio.
I am using an AV receiver as a HDMI switcher. All inputs has different sources (directv, xbox, Roku etc) and 1 HDMI going into the Elite.
All sources work fine and I have audio and video except the Oppo. Got video but no audio. It worked fine with the Mits 82838 but not so with the Elite.
Something is different on the Elite so this is sort of an Elite and Oppo question.
Tried all different setting on the Oppo but still no sound. Is there a setting on the Elite audio I don't know about?
I know it has something to do with Blu-ray....SD is not doing it.

But the optical out will only give you PCM 2.0 and loose the 5.1 of the roku!

Shut off internal.speakers? Just a wild guess

No don't use internal speakers.

Just another guess- use the Primary HDMI 1 connection on the Oppo not HDMI 2. Don't know if it matters if HDMI 2 is used and not HDMI 1 but I will see if anything else pops into my mind.

Rick

Thats OK...thanks all. I will post over on the Oppo thread and see if there is some conflict with Oppo setting, and what Elite likes.
I am sure it is minor.....

try turning on the AVR 1st then the oppo & last turn on the Sharp
If I remember right I had to do that when I 1st started up my 632 80" as they (the units ) all have set each others handshake info between units . as this also happened with my 80" when I started it all
When re-did the start-up then everything fell into place & now I can start in any order ..
I had a Onkyo 5008

Well I just had a PS3 hooked up to my 60 inch Elite this weekend...I`m not going to say how jaw dropping it was...only because at 60 inches of screen...it shows how inferior gaming consoles are at creating a vivid detailed image on the screen on a large display...Call of Duty 3 was NO MATCH for such a superior display...optically watching the game on the screen was like going back to the 90`s and watching an Sega Genesis game with 64bit graphics...sort of disapointed that not even fine dithering was able to bring the game to a consistent realism I would expect.

Aside for being disapointed about the poor quality of fine detail in a console game such as Call of duty 3...one thing did blow my mind...

...the TV behaves like a CRT monitor...I couldn`t F*"!/gin believe it...all the jerking ... shifting...forward motion ... moving and jumping around in the game had no effect on the screen ...the display was ROCK SOLID!...I`ve waited for ever to get back into gaming...ever since my first LCD TV I have`t been able to get that rock solid image I got when I had my CRT TV...ghost Recon was the first game I tried on my first LCD TV and there was soo much ghosting and pixel blurring during motion or side shifting that it was unplayable...since then I`ve dropped games and sold all my consoles (xbox 360)...because it was rendered very poorly by the display and hard not to be distracted by all the slow image lag etc...

* Currently I`m putting together a HT Gaming system...that`s gonna push all console`s over the edge in terms of visual clarity and viewing depth...I`m never going back to consoles again...it`s such a waste to be using such cheap hardware on such an expensive and more important, elaborate Set.

Thanks...I will try that, could be a handshake problem.

The glasses ship with a usb adaptor. I would prefer to plug into wall socket using either a Kindle or iPhone charger. They are respectively .85 & 1 Amp at 5 Volts. The glasses are marked 5V with no information on max amperage. Does anyone have any knowledge? (Guess?)

I plug them in the wall with my smart phone usb plug. Works fine.
I was guessing USB to AC is USB to AC.

Has anyone obtained an extended warranty for the Elite? Called Sharp and they say they are only offering one year at a time. Full coverage, including replacement with new or new equivalent if current model not available. $200. You can purchase subsequent year at end of period. They claim the model is so new they need to establish repair data to determine cost/price going toward. This sounds somewhat peculiar to me, or is this within the norm? If you have obtained an extended warranty, can you share your source, details of coverage and cost? Thanks

This potentially sucks. Have you tried using the optical out to your receiver for 5.1 surround sound?

No I have not, and I think that would work but I have Roku that I use for Netflix so I don't have to use the Elite for online apps.
There was a potentially way to make it work in an earlier post. I tried and it did not work for me.
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"Dreaux, you can get sound from your receiver while watching Netflix.

In my case I've got my Elite and a Denon 2112CI. Everything runs through the receiver and then to the Elite. The TV and AVR are connected with a single HDMI cable that supports Audio Return Channel.

You then have to go into System Options -> Link Control and turn Link Control on and then "Audio Return Channel" to Auto."

Hmm I thought my HDMI 1.4 was all I needed but I am not sure it supports Audio return.
I think I will try this.

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Ul..._bxgy_e_text_c

What's the purpose of audio return again? Your AVR is 1.4 (you think) and your Oppo 93 supports 3D bluray. What is the need for a separate HDMI cable?

Rick

There is no need for a separate HDMI cable. My AVR is 1.4 so it and the Oppo do 3D.
Didn't mean to imply a separate cable would be necessary.
What the other poster was saying was that an HDMI 1.4 cable that supports audio both ways (can send audio in both directions) would work sending audio back to the AVR from the Elite. Therefore the Netflix sound would be sent back to the receiver from the Elite if you have the right cable and you change system setting in the Elite to send audio back. You would not have to listen to Netflix through the sets internal speakers which compared to a sound system is quite lame.
Now I can be completely misunderstanding what he said but thats what I got out of it.

You got it right. Before HDMI 1.4, if you wanted to send audio and video to the TV, but also wanted the TV to be able to send audio back, you needed 2 cables... an HDMI to carry stuff to the TV, and some kind of audio cable (optical, whatever) to carry sound back.

With audio return channel, a single HDMI cable will do it. What I found from researching all the HDMI 1.4 stuff was basically this... there's 3 major things in HDMI 1.4

Something that says it is HDMI 1.4 compliant is saying it can handle the handshake for any of the 4 major formats by which 3D signals get transmitted between components. Back in HDMI 1.3 you weren't guaranteed that a brand of TV could understand the 3D signal from a given source. If both are 1.4 compliant, they should be able to work together.

In addition, something may be HDMI 1.4 compliant with audio return channel (ARC), which is saying it'll send video one way over the cable, and audio both ways.

Then there's a third thing in the HDMI 1.4 standard called Ethernet Channel, and that is basically saying that using that same single HDMI cable, if one of your components is networked (wifi or hardwired), that another component without wifi can piggy back off the network via the HDMI cable.

Of course, the components both have to support whatever feature. The Elite is 1.4 compliant, and also is ARC compliant. I'm not sure if it supports Ethernet Channel. I don't think it is but I didn't check on it since I know my receiver isn't so it wouldn't do me any good if the Elite is.

There are also different HDMI cables out there depending on whether it is "just" HDMI 1.4, or HDMI 1.4 with ARC, or HDMI 1.4 with ARC and Ethernet Channel.

Has anyone here went from a Sony 65hx929 to a Elite, or seen them side by side? I am on my third Sony 929 and I am about ready to throw in the towel and just get a Elite 70. I went and looked at one last night and it looked pretty nice - I just don't want to regret my decision.

Ken Ross has. He now only owns the elite

Good to know....thanks

Watched Lord of the Rings-Two Towers last night on Blu-ray. I know wow is over used but wow!
I could see the reflection of the movie lights (fill and HMI) in the actors eyes.
As well as the exquisite detail of their armor. Truly an exceptional picture.

you need to throw in the towel now. the 65" version has banding issues,and i would be willing to bet this is your issue.(at least a main one) with the new pricing policy now in effect, the Elite can be had for a few hundred dollars more while gaining another 5" of viewing pleasure. i've had both, the Sony went back for the above issue. The Elite is the better display.

can I return the Elite to Best Buy within the 30 day return period, no questions asked?...or do you need to have a good reason for returning it (aka do I need to make up some defect in order for them to accept it)?

Yep - banding is my problem too. Sony says the problem is fixed but no guarantee my fourth would come from the new lot. I will stop the exchange nonsense now and get the Elite. Thanks

If you use Best Buy make sure to negotiate with them. Although I didn't buy from them they were very flexible in price matching. They were willing to drop the price 9 hundred if I bought from them. I don't think they sell a lot since it is a high end set, not sure.
You can find better deals with the forums sponsors as well.
PM me if you want to know how much I paid. The one I bought it from is close to you. They would probably drive it over to you.

I bought my Elite 60 after watching it side by side with a 55 in 929 and a Samsung 8000 watching several blu ray disc I brought.