Official Sharp Elite PRO-70X5 and 60X5 Owners Thread - Page 323

I noticed the standard and game modes have much better black levels then the thx mode. Is that do it does not loose any shadow detail? Or is there some settings I could change to make the black levels as deep.

There's been a lot of talk about wanting to see 4k on the 2012 Elites and quite frankly I don't get it. Even with 20/20 vision, a person would have to sit remarkably close (to close for comfort really) to see and difference. That's assuming there was any 4k content actually available. And think of how expensive that content would be! I'm as big a HT enthusiast as the next guy, and seeing $30+ movies is an absolute no-go. 4k movies would undoubtedly be expensive. Would there even be enough demand to sustain them?

If Sharp wants to make the Elite line (more) viable, they need to start bringing prices down and/or making hands down the best sets available. When the VT50 is half the price and ARGUABLY even better, how successful can the Elite line be? Forget 4k, go 80"-100", improve color accuracy and open up the viewing angles and Elite will be the king again.

Ya, everyone needs to get off the 4K bandwagon. It's a joke to think there is any reason. There are no movies in it, there is no television content in it, just a capability. It's like saying my car can go 500 MPH. Great, so your car can do that, where are you going to do that?....

They need to focus on a few quality issues, get the margins a little better, and release a little higher processing capability with more dimming zones and the set will be a masterpiece. I can barely even ever get a Blu ray disc from the idiot company Blockbuster Video. So, stop fantasizing about OLED and all these other new technologies that are out by a matter of years before ELITE gets stamped on them. OLED even got bumped because of production issues. A premium product should have dependability and a proven track record behind it. None of these new technologies do. Moving on....

I think the 80 and 90 inch tvs would benefit for some 4k up convertion. Anything less then 80 would be pointless. The 80 inch sharps I've seen looked like garbage.
Edited by Adamd - 7/2/12 at 5:51am

Did SHARP get this fixed? What was involved? I now have the same issue. ELITE won't recognize anything from either my Harmony or the Elite remote. I checked to make sure the RF lockout wasn't on. I even enabled the RF lockout and then disabled it thinking it might "jump start" the RF sensor. No luck. Calling SHARP today.

I agree. And as I mentioned before, every TV you buy now has 3D yet there is virtually zero 3D content. Just a handful of movie releases and that's it. I would say it would be a minimum of 5 years before we even see the level of 4K support that we see for 3D now. By then, the Elite will have started to become obsolete anyway.

Hell, we probably wouldn't even have HD now if it weren't for the government forcing it so they could get ahold of the analog channels for government use. We'd probably all still be trying to decide on which is the best CRT tv here.

Unfortunately I have to return my ELITE 70 After a couple weeks with it in the house and watching various content from all sources I just cant justify the extra 3k-4k over the VT50...I cant put my finger on it, but I suspect it is the way it handles motion, I am always getting pixelation in peoples faces. I have also been tweaking the settings endlessly with no complete satisfaction. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but It doesn't look nearly as solid as the VT50 I had before it. The colors are definitely in the VT50's advantage, colors just look more saturated and true to life. It will suck to go down 5 inches, but there really isnt any alternative. The 70inch sharps look bush league compared to these two sets, and the 80 isn't much better. I really wish I could love this TV so much that I could justify the extra money, but I cant.

Yikes!!

Hey guys, for streaming netflix through the Elite, are you using a wired connection or wireless? I purchased a 50ft Cat6 cable to run a wired connection but I am wondering if I should return it and just do wireless instead. I look forward to seeing how HD streaming and DD 5.1 is handled by this set. I will run a blue jeans optical cable from the TV my receiver for this.

In the end, its about what makes you happy. The VT50 is indeed a great set as well though It wouldn't work in my non light controlled room during the day. I hope everything works out for you

The kind of pixelization you describe is usually more a function of the source, not the display. If it were the display, we'd all be seeing it and we're obviously not. In the end it's your eyes that need to be happy, so for you it's the right move.

I don't think I'd credit the Govt with streamlining anything. IMO all it does is put red tape in the way of progress.

Sounds like a broken set to me. I have had no motion problems, especially nothing like you describe. Have you tried getting a replacement?

This is probably the only time I credit government intervention with anything to be honest. Even though their motives were not in our interests, videophiles benfited from it. The networks had to be off analog by a certain deadline. If not for that, I highly suspect everything would still be mostly standard definition.

Your probably right, it always happens on DIRECTV, but the problem is I always watch DIRECTV and I never noticed it on the VT50. Its not worth 4k to have issues when I know I had none on the VT50

I can tell the difference in my connections (wired vs. wireless). I'll use both but if hunkering down to watch a couple of movies on Netflix I much prefer the wired. No lag or buffering at all, anytime. My Elite 70" is about 55' from the hotspot router.

My replacement 70" is woderful, much better than my first set. Build date January, 2012. I frankly can't understand why the viewing angle in this one is so much better? How could that be?

Does sharp ever plan on releasing a firmware update for the color problems? It seems like there may never be.The colors don't look bad on this set I do notice green seems not saturated enough and some times blue does not seem right as well. I haven't had the set calibrated yet. Another pulsing firmware is supposted to be on the work as well. I'm still debating between keeping my elite or going for a vt50. I just love the bright picture mixed with crazy black levels so much. I watched dark knight today and the imax scenes looks amazing!

You might try calibration. I've had mine ISF'd and the greens are fine. There's tremendous variation with greens from broadcast to broadcast and even within a single broadcast with multiple cameras. That's the way it should be.

If you've ever shot video or ever done photography, you'll see exactly that same variation. Depending on your angle to the sun, the clarity of the sky or the time of the day, greens can look somewhat under-saturated to very saturated regardless of how you view those photos or videos and regardless of what properly adjusted display you view it on.

Now granted, I've seen many displays where greens are super-saturated regardless of the broadcast or camera angle. To me these displays look unnatural, but I suspect there are some that love those overly vivid colors.

Watching a Yanked game on the YES network (known for high quality broadcasts), greens look great.

I just got this email from Sharp on the 90". Should be interesting to see.

http://files.sharpusa.com/Email/AQUOS_Advantage/Summer2012/featured_product.htm

Ahh! Yes, the Aquos Advantage Newsletter - got mine too. But I'm not looking to sub my Elite anytime soon .

Calibration is the answer to your problems. I have calibrated my set literally dozens of times, each time learning something new. I've tried different gammas, backlight, brightness and contrast settings as the base for calibration. These have given me various degrees of under-saturation, slight tints and so on, as well as great looking alternatives.

Right now the colors are vibrant yet not over-saturated, great blacks and shadow detail. I can't notice any problems in color shifting across the luminance scale. If I wasn't aware of a color tracking discrepancy I wouldn't be able to tell, unless I was doing a side by side comparison or taking measurements.

I agree that wired should be faster as Ethernet will give you 100M but when one is comparing the two one should talk about what wireless router is being used as there are huge differences in brands and models and also which technology b/g or n.

I just got my set last week 70x5 and I sent an email out to get my set calibrated. today I received an email from a calibrator And this what he said.

The color TV system in use throughout the world is based on 3 colors (Red, Green & Blue).  Unfortunately, when a manufacturer designs a set that uses a 4th color (yellow in Sharp's case) it becomes difficult (or even impossible) to properly calibrate the set.

Most isf calibrators avoid doing these sets because when they properly calibrate Red Green and Blue, other colors are "out of whack".

So, sorry, I need to decline.

I'm looking for a calibrator I'm in the Rochester New York area

You can get the names of calibrators who have worked on your display in post number two of the thread linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post. The LCD reports are toward the end of post number two.

Kevin Miller might travel to your area.

I tried that setting but it seams to take away shadow detail and if I
use it on my hd cable it kinda jumps around and almost looks like pulsing mostly in the back grounds. So I usually don't use it. But thx anyways.