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post #901 of 1007
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Originally Posted by bysdontcry View Post

Hey mostau. Can you please tell me what mount you're using, how far down from the ceiling the projector hangs and the measurement from the ceiling to the top of the screen? Looking to get this projector and am curious to see if it will work in my room. Appreciate it.

Sure,

I am using the el cheapo Monoprice "Frankenstein" eek.gif Mount (At least that's what MississippiMan calls it wink.gif) and it will cost you a whopping $12.87 smile.gif

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082803&p_id=3010&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

It's really not designed to work with angled ceilings so I had to add nylon spacers on the front to keep it level.

It worked out OK but I'm not sure I would have kept it except for the fact that I did not need to move it to accommodate the 100U.

Power/Low Voltage Wall Plate...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=4006&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

My great room ceiling is 10.5' at walls, 12.5' at center of room. The screen starts 5" below so 10'. The mount is about a 1/3rd to the top so I'd say about 11' 4" and the extension is 24" so the projector is at 9' 4" (to get it under the ceiling fan).

Hope the info helps.
Edited by mostau - 3/9/13 at 7:59pm
post #902 of 1007
Thanks mostau!
post #903 of 1007
Best review ever!

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Originally Posted by nzchurbro View Post

My journey to getting this projector has been flippin crazy... I'm a bit bored so here's the yarn.

So about 3 years ago I start getting excited about the idea of having a projector set up in our living room... Problem is I earn jack squat, have a wife and two kids and this stuff isn't cheap. So I eventually save up, sell some stuff and buy a second hand pt-ar700 for NZ$700. I stick it on a bookshelf in the middle of the living room when I first get it before I ceiling mounted it.

So my sister comes round to visit my wife while I'm out. Leans back on her chair. Knocks the bookshelf and the projector falls back, lands on the power cable bending the whole back section of the projector where all the inputs etc are. I come home 5 minutes after this happen and they both look like someone has died, they know how much this thing means to me. Anyway, what can you do, I'm cool about it.
I turn it on expecting the worse but it's still working! Stoked!

Fast forward two years (and many happy hours of movies, gaming etc) and the bulb blows - a thousand hours early. Gutted. A couple of hours before it happens ive been talking to my trying to plant the idea of upgrading. I was thinking we could sell the pj, I could save up and maybe get a pj that's full 1080p.
There's that plan down the drain. I purchase a new bulb, and it starts flickering like mental from the begining. I'm gutted, what's going on here. I contact the dude that sold me the bulb - he suspects a dodgy power supply issue but installs a second bulb just in case it's a faulty bulb. That bulb blows within two minutes. Bugger.

The dude looks at the bulbs and is convinced it's a power supply issue. I open up the pj and can see how munted the power socket is, I have an electrician check the power supply from the wall and that's perfect. The pj is stuffed.

So now I've got no pj, only $100 in my savings and staring the barrel of a long savings mission, probably at least a year without pj.
(Also here in New Zealand prices for projectors are insanely expensive. That Epsom 8350 - that will be NZ$3500 please. That's US$2900)
Anyway I'm lying there at night and think, I should give the hundy dollars to the bulb dude, his bulbs weren't the problem and he gave me the second one free. Part of me doesn't want to, but I know it's the right thing to do. So I email him in the morning, say I want to give him the coin. He replies, and in his email suggests i contact my insurance and see if the pj is covered because of the knock it took from sister... I had never even thought about that as an option.
I ring up the insurance company, tell them the whole story leaving nothing out - and they accept my claim over the phone! I can't believe it.

I nervously wait to see what they all replace it with, expecting something pretty average... They come back and ask if I would be happy with a PT-AR100. Yeah!!! Full 1080p, light canon of goodness. Retails here for NZ$3700 smile.gif

I install it, but you wouldn't believe it, the thing is flickering away. What the?! eek.gif
I work through my whole system trying to find the gremlin. Everything - I posted on this thread and everything. I resort to getting a professional home theater expert to have a look. He reckons the projector is faulty. When will this end.
It gets sent back to panny, they acknowledge its a processor issue and send me a new one.
Install that
You little beauty. Works perfectly. This projector is unbelievably good. I flippin am so stoked You guys know what I am talking about. This bad boy is sweet!
post #904 of 1007
I may have asked this before but I still have not gotten a straight answer: Is there any internal polarization in this unit? If so are all the colors polarized the same?
post #905 of 1007
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Originally Posted by curtishd View Post

I may have asked this before but I still have not gotten a straight answer: Is there any internal polarization in this unit? If so are all the colors polarized the same?

Yes. And each LCD panel has it's own polarizer (RGB).
I think this PJ it's similar to the AE4000. You can find some pics and explanation here: http://www.cine4home.com/tests/3-tests/28-panasonic-pt-ae4000-lcd-projector-.html
post #906 of 1007
Ferbal is correct. EACH of the three LCD Panels in a 3 LCD projector has a different color polarizor and they have to be mounted facing the correct way.

Bohanna
post #907 of 1007
Been reading a lot about this pj (thanks forum people) and think it will fit well in my room.
I live in Australia queensland, does anybody know where in oz that sells this projector?

Don't want to ship from overseas, makes warranty and stuff easier if I buy here.
post #908 of 1007
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Originally Posted by Bamboogie View Post

Been reading a lot about this pj (thanks forum people) and think it will fit well in my room.
I live in Australia queensland, does anybody know where in oz that sells this projector?

Don't want to ship from overseas, makes warranty and stuff easier if I buy here.

If you've read through this thread you know there is a big hit on the price in Australia versus the US. The AR100U that sells for $1300 here is almost twice that in OZ.

However I understand wanting to keep your warranty and eliminating the problems of an import.

Google is your friend. Found these two merchants in OZ for about the same price.

http://www.hot.com.au/price/panasonic-pt-ar100e-home-cinema-projector?utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc

http://www.techbuy.com.au/products/183232/Multimedia_Projectors/Panasonic/PT-AR100E.asp

Good luck!
post #909 of 1007
thanks Mr.G was expecting a bit of a price bump but not quite that much frown.gif will have to look at plan B , maybe a benq 1070 which is the similar price over there as it is here.
post #910 of 1007
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Originally Posted by Bamboogie View Post

thanks Mr.G was expecting a bit of a price bump but not quite that much frown.gif will have to look at plan B , maybe a benq 1070 which is the similar price over there as it is here.

From all the reviews I've read it sounds like your Plan B may be the right one. Good luck!
post #911 of 1007
Has anyone done a direct comparison with the Benq W7000?
I know the Benq does 3d but other than that how do they truly compare? I can read the tech specs but I am interested in true presentations and actual performance.
post #912 of 1007
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Originally Posted by curtishd View Post

Has anyone done a direct comparison with the Benq W7000?
I know the Benq does 3d but other than that how do they truly compare? I can read the tech specs but I am interested in true presentations and actual performance.

You can check out Art's reviews and see comparison screen shots here...

http://www.projectorreviews.com/panasonic/pt-ar100u/performance.php

http://www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w7000/index.php
post #913 of 1007
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Originally Posted by curtishd View Post

Has anyone done a direct comparison with the Benq W7000?
I know the Benq does 3d but other than that how do they truly compare? I can read the tech specs but I am interested in true presentations and actual performance.

No, no one has ever done a direct comparison with the W7000 (which you own).

Costco sells the AR100U for $1300, order it and compare for yourself. They have a 90 day - no questions asked - return policy.
post #914 of 1007
Newbie here - been reading a lot and feedback provided here is great!

I've read great reviews on Panasonic PT-AR100 and it fits my budget (under $2k) - my concern is how it will work for my family room. My room is 18 ft wide by 25 ft with 24 ft ceilings. The room is open to other areas of the house - intent is to use this primarily for movies, occasionally for sports. With the high ceilings, my plan is to have this at 25', with viewing distance of 20-22' from screen. According to projectorcentral, this unit should be able to cover that much distance. I'm targeting a 180'' diagonal screen - too much to ask with this unit? Also, what screen would you guys recommend if on a budget?

Appreciate the help.
post #915 of 1007
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Originally Posted by dtdish View Post

Newbie here - been reading a lot and feedback provided here is great!

I've read great reviews on Panasonic PT-AR100 and it fits my budget (under $2k) - my concern is how it will work for my family room. My room is 18 ft wide by 25 ft with 24 ft ceilings. The room is open to other areas of the house - intent is to use this primarily for movies, occasionally for sports. With the high ceilings, my plan is to have this at 25', with viewing distance of 20-22' from screen. According to projectorcentral, this unit should be able to cover that much distance. I'm targeting a 180'' diagonal screen - too much to ask with this unit? Also, what screen would you guys recommend if on a budget?

Appreciate the help.

With a 180 inch (16:9) screen and a 25 foot throw you need a high gain (2.5) screen to make this work otherwise the picture will be too dim (fL). However there are disadvantages to high gain screens, read the article below.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projector_screens_gain.htm

Go to Coderguy's Elite Projector Calculator and input your numbers. You will want to concentrate on Best Mode (Lamp Low) since the fans in the AR100U are too loud, in my opinion, to use in full power mode in a home theater.

The simplest cure would be to reduce your screen size to around 130 inches.
post #916 of 1007
A 180" screen? Really?

From 20 feet?

Really?

Seeing the rooms longest dimension is 25', I'd have to assume that there will be folks sitting closer than 20 feet, still, but I'm just speculating of course, sorry if I'm off.

I agree with Mr G, a 130" screen seems like a much better fit for many reason.

I don't want to know what ANY 1080 PJ looks like at 180" within 20 feet, honestly. Gotta be considerable SDE going on for most folks.

James
Edited by mastermaybe - 4/5/13 at 7:25am
post #917 of 1007
Thanks for the info!

I got excited about the possibility of 180" after seeing somewhere that the THX recommended viewing distance from screen for 180" is about 20 ft. I can move that seating back too given some space - so we're looking at folks seating in the 25 - 18 ft range.

Mr.G thanks for the info on gain and fan noise. Entering in my info on eliteprojectorcalculator.com for 180" diagonal with throw of 24ft, using AR100U gives me 7.1 fL for Best Mode (Lamp Low), which seems to be too dim given the distance - dynamic mode with lamp high gives me 21.9 fL. Would a high gain screen with Lamp Low setting help with this projector? If I want the screen size I'm looking for, what's the recommended projector? Is there one under $2k?

Thanks again.
post #918 of 1007
Optoma th1060p or Benq sh910, but they have slower color wheels (more potential for people to see RBE), but they are plenty bright. I would personally sit no farther back than 16 feet away from a 180" screen, that is 1.2x screen width viewing distance. Some may prefer to sit farther back, but 20 feet is too far back.
post #919 of 1007
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Originally Posted by dtdish View Post

If I want the screen size I'm looking for, what's the recommended projector? Is there one under $2k?

You may want to look through Coderguy's Top Picks and Awards for more information on other projectors which includes the two projectors he recommended.

For more information on RBE (RainBow Effect) you may want to read through the informative debate on How Afraid Should I Be of RBE?

-G
post #920 of 1007
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Originally Posted by dtdish View Post

Thanks for the info!

I got excited about the possibility of 180" after seeing somewhere that the THX recommended viewing distance from screen for 180" is about 20 ft. I can move that seating back too given some space - so we're looking at folks seating in the 25 - 18 ft range.

Mr.G thanks for the info on gain and fan noise. Entering in my info on eliteprojectorcalculator.com for 180" diagonal with throw of 24ft, using AR100U gives me 7.1 fL for Best Mode (Lamp Low), which seems to be too dim given the distance - dynamic mode with lamp high gives me 21.9 fL. Would a high gain screen with Lamp Low setting help with this projector? If I want the screen size I'm looking for, what's the recommended projector? Is there one under $2k?

Thanks again.

Don't be afraid of the high output modes of this projector. I just got this unit last week, and I have it in Vivid Cinema, during the daytime with no light control my 120" screen is very watchable.

Your original post left out one very important factor dtdish. light control. You can achieve a very large size screen if you can get the sunlight down. it's all in the details..

So far loving my Ar100u, HUGE step up from my ae700u!!!!

Got a smoking deal to! $1100 used as a demo unit, only got 100 hours on the clock, from a local trusted and reputable projector company to! Thats in Canada, where this unit has a much higher street price than you Americans enjoy.
post #921 of 1007
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Originally Posted by stickygreen View Post

Don't be afraid of the high output modes of this projector. I just got this unit last week, and I have it in Vivid Cinema, during the daytime with no light control my 120" screen is very watchable.

Your original post left out one very important factor dtdish. light control. You can achieve a very large size screen if you can get the sunlight down. it's all in the details..

So far loving my Ar100u, HUGE step up from my ae700u!!!!

Got a smoking deal to! $1100 used as a demo unit, only got 100 hours on the clock, from a local trusted and reputable projector company to! Thats in Canada, where this unit has a much higher street price than you Americans enjoy.

I'm glad you're happy with your AR100U - but you have to remember "dtdish" was considering a 180" (16:9) screen which much larger than your 120" screen. A 180" screen is about 97 sq. feet versus 43 sq. feet for a 120" screen. 97 sq. feet (more than twice your screen size) is a lot of real estate to light up decently even in a darkened room. In eco-mode with the vivid dynamic setting the picture will be too dim to enjoy and you've basically negated the bright, colorful and punchy picture the AR100U produces.
post #922 of 1007
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

I'm glad you're happy with your AR100U - but you have to remember "dtdish" was considering a 180" (16:9) screen which much larger than your 120" screen. A 180" screen is about 97 sq. feet versus 43 sq. feet for a 120" screen. 97 sq. feet (more than twice your screen size) is a lot of real estate to light up decently even in a darkened room. In eco-mode with the vivid dynamic setting the picture will be too dim to enjoy and you've basically negated the bright, colorful and punchy picture the AR100U produces.

just purchased a 150" 16:9, i've got confidence in this projectors light output.
post #923 of 1007
whats the cheapest price for a lamp, i want a factory new lamp
post #924 of 1007
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Originally Posted by stickygreen View Post

just purchased a 150" 16:9, i've got confidence in this projectors light output.

Since you're moving from lighting up a 43 sq.foot screen to a 67 sq. foot screen I'd be interested in finding out your results. Please include your screen gain and throw distance. Thanks.
post #925 of 1007
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Originally Posted by flanntastic View Post

whats the cheapest price for a lamp, i want a factory new lamp

Since my AR100U has moved past 1500 hours I've kept my eye on the Panasonic OEM lamp module prices. Assuming you live in the U.S. the lowest price I've found is with Provantage - $298, everyone else that is reputable is $325 or higher.

Don't be surprised to find there are already clones of this bulb usually selling in the ~$250 or less range.
post #926 of 1007
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Originally Posted by nzchurbro View Post

I'd love some help
I've had this projector for about a month now and there is a noticeable flicker on bright scenes and moving scenes.
I've checked the devices I send signal from (tv, bluray, Xbox) and they all have the same issue.
I've checked the cable (10m hdmi cable) by using another cable and the issue is still there
I've had an electrician check the power supply and that is consistent and normal
I've tried every flipping setting on the menu (dynamic iris etc) to no avail
I've run the lamp on normal for the past week or so to see if that fixes it but there is no change at all
There are about 20 hours on the lamp

Any ideas or thoughts about what could be causing this?

By flicker do you mean it cuts to the blue screen? Mine will only work with my cable box with everything else (Blu-ray and apple tv) the picture cuts out and screen goes blue, but the sound still works. I have found no solution. Very frustrating.
post #927 of 1007
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Originally Posted by paulj7272 View Post

By flicker do you mean it cuts to the blue screen? Mine will only work with my cable box with everything else (Blu-ray and apple tv) the picture cuts out and screen goes blue, but the sound still works. I have found no solution. Very frustrating.

No, that was not his problem. Your problem is most likely related to your HDMI cable.

Additionally the reason why your Time Warner cable box works with the projector sometimes (according to your Amazon review of the Yamaha AVR) is that the max resolution is 720p/1080i versus the 1080p resolution of your Blu-ray player and Apple TV. 1080p uses twice the data rate of 1080i/720p. End result - cable fail. You could try disabling the 36 bit Deep Color on your Blu-ray player but mostly likely your cable will still fail.

Here's a simple test - set the max resolution of your Blu-ray player to 480p and try playing a DVD. If you get a picture the problem is your HDMI cable. This is assuming you have the Yamaha set to pass-through the signal with no upscaling.

-G
Edited by Mr.G - 5/6/13 at 10:33am
post #928 of 1007
Mr G - thank you for the suggestions I will try them when I get home from work. I have tried various cables because that seemed like the problem - so unless they are all bad I am not sure that is the issue.

These are blue rigger hdmi cables - and I even tried a direct connection from the projector to the receiver.

Thanks.
post #929 of 1007
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Originally Posted by paulj7272 View Post

Mr G - thank you for the suggestions I will try them when I get home from work. I have tried various cables because that seemed like the problem - so unless they are all bad I am not sure that is the issue.

These are blue rigger hdmi cables - and I even tried a direct connection from the projector to the receiver.

Thanks.

I hope you will read my response in the other thread you have been posting to. As I mentioned before you want to work through each device by the process of elimination.

1. Hook up a 6 foot HDMI cable directly from the Blu-ray player to the projector. Do you get a picture? If yes, then...

2. Hook up your 40 foot HDMI cable directly from the Blu-ray player to the projector. Do you get a picture? If no, then the HDMI cable is the problem. If yes, then the AVR is possibly the problem.

Although Blue Rigger HDMI cables have a high success rate they also have a notable failure rate in certain setups.

http://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-High-Speed-Cable-Ethernet/product-reviews/B00316263Y/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
post #930 of 1007
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

No, no one has ever done a direct comparison with the W7000 (which you own).

Costco sells the AR100U for $1300, order it and compare for yourself. They have a 90 day - no questions asked - return policy.

I never understood the warning about zero tolerance for costco posts that was (is?) posted on the forum main page. What was that about? Thanks. Tom.
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