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post #1951 of 4380
Does everyone's projector change presets automatically based off the source? I don't remember this happening before, and now it works like clockwork since I changed processors. IE blu ray input change automatically changes to cinema, tv to tv, game to game,etc...

Just curious if I missed this before, or it just started happening with the processor change.
post #1952 of 4380
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

Does everyone's projector change presets automatically based off the source? I don't remember this happening before, and now it works like clockwork since I changed processors. IE blu ray input change automatically changes to cinema, tv to tv, game to game,etc...

Just curious if I missed this before, or it just started happening with the processor change.

That is a setting on the projector, auto input select. Most people do not use it because it often times takes too long for selection and on some projectors it can be finicky.
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post #1953 of 4380
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

Does everyone's projector change presets automatically based off the source? I don't remember this happening before, and now it works like clockwork since I changed processors. IE blu ray input change automatically changes to cinema, tv to tv, game to game,etc...

Just curious if I missed this before, or it just started happening with the processor change.

Oh yeah. Makes our lives much easier. I love it since whether we watch 3D, blu ray 2D, DirecTV or just play video games it changes on the fly. And there has never been any wait time. It does it seamless within a blink. Love it!
post #1954 of 4380
Makes our lives MUCH easier? Your life must really really be easy if an auto input selector makes it much easier. Woe is me. I use only one HDMI into the Sony and do all switching with my Lumagen. Thus, I am burdened, dragged down in my daily existence, my life being shortened, by having to press a button on my remote to switch inputs between my bluray player and my set top box. Life sucks.
post #1955 of 4380
I've been MIA for a while. Got my projector up and going on Wednesday. Wanted to give a quick update.

-I'm within about 6" of minimum throw
-My lens is maybe a foot above the top of the screen, although I need to move it up about another 4" when I get a custom extension pipe cut
-I paired this with a 160" wide Scope AT Enlightor 4K Seymour AV/Screen Excellence CIH Motorized Screen
-Even on low brightness, projector brightness seems fine (I have no way to measure right now). This is in a very light controlled room but I can still have light and things seem fine.
-Not sure how the bulb will age, but if anybody is worried about a big AT screen with this, I don't think you should write it off.

More to come. I hope I don't have any of the issues reported here with the Sony but I haven't gotten that deep into it yet--I haven't seen any obvious issues, but I'm not even up to date enough on this thread to know exactly what to look for. I need to do that soon because I'm probably half way through my 90 days.
post #1956 of 4380
just got my replacement sony sooner than expected and it's better than my first in two ways..on full auto iris it doesn't muddy the blacks anymore and its even sharper ..also as bright and aligned as the first..and an even clear ire field. shes a keeper..should be getting the darbee darblet soon [a tip from mark] so we'll see what that does to this crazynice image..
post #1957 of 4380
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Originally Posted by turls View Post

-I'm within about 6" of minimum throw
-I paired this with a 160" wide AT Enlightor 4K Seymour AV/Screen Excellence Motorized Screen
-Even on low brightness, projector brightness seems fine (I have no way to measure right now). This is in a very light controlled room but I can still have light and things seem fine.
-Not sure how the bulb will age, but if anybody is worried about a big AT screen with this, I don't think you should write it off.

At near throw this projector puts out 1600 to 1800 lumens when using all pixels.
At long throw a bit over 1000 lumens. With bulb aging the numbers will go down and with 3D it will be much less. I'm not saying it won't work with a 160" screen(scope?), it just depends on how bright a picture you want and if you are able to mount the projector at near throw.
post #1958 of 4380
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Originally Posted by Randall Morton View Post

At near throw this projector puts out 1600 to 1800 lumens when using all pixels.
At long throw a bit over 1000 lumens. With bulb aging the numbers will go down and with 3D it will be much less. I'm not saying it won't work with a 160" screen(scope?), it just depends on how bright a picture you want and if you are able to mount the projector at near throw.

Yes, scope. I edited the original post to confirm that. No A-lens so I'm not using all the pixels for scope. This will be a CIH setup after I get the motorized part setup.

All the calculations I ran even with bulb aging and conservative screen gain and low estimates for Sony brightness I think I was between 12-15 lumens. Not for 3D of course.
post #1959 of 4380
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

Pounding my chest pride and filling my egotistical need for affectionate recognition from other than my dog, I have been selected as a beta tester. Obviously, to be such one must have a display which accepts either a 4HD or 4K input and can display such.

I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with actually selling them

Anyway, my Lumagen is still in the box you sold me over a year ago so hopefully I can get a nice upgrade discount to move up to the 4k one since I didn't even know I would ever be hooking up a 4K projector to it...sounded like a good idea at the time...still will be I'm sure for most sources...
post #1960 of 4380
What is the trick to resetting the lens shift to be dead center horizontally and vertically? One of the guys I was working with stumbled onto it a couple of times but could never reproduce it with me watching.
post #1961 of 4380
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Originally Posted by samalmoe View Post

just got my replacement sony sooner than expected and it's better than my first in two ways..on full auto iris it doesn't muddy the blacks anymore and its even sharper ..also as bright and aligned as the first..and an even clear ire field. shes a keeper..should be getting the darbee darblet soon [a tip from mark] so we'll see what that does to this crazynice image..

The Darbee folks say first shipments are about 2 weeks off.
post #1962 of 4380
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Comparisons.

VW-1000 Joe`s pic i nicked off his site.

OOTB JVC X90 FILM preset MPC=3 unedited photobucket resized it.

I'm as confused as this guy's expression. What are we trying to accomplish?
post #1963 of 4380
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Originally Posted by Kevin 3000 View Post

General interest between 2 top end projectors other than the usual superlatives.

Different cameras, camera settings, screens, projector settings, etc. is a comparison process that is largely futile. Might be interesting for a dedicated thread by someone who has both in the same environment...
post #1964 of 4380
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

The Darbee folks say first shipments are about 2 weeks off.

I offered to Review one for them. And yes pay for it. Haven't heard anything yet.
post #1965 of 4380
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Originally Posted by Kevin 3000 View Post

General interest between 2 top end projectors other than the usual superlatives.

I compared it to the RS55.
post #1966 of 4380
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Well people who take these type of pics make sure they are the best they can be and as long as no obvious (please no lectures on cameras PP/filesizes as that tend to be the same whichever camera you have) PP is applied photoshop etc etc contrast/sharpness is what it is, colors are usually not so accurate IMO.

I will delete these posts as to not clutter this thread.

I see nothing wrong with it. The latest 1000 I have here is slightly better than the one that I took the pic for my Review. And yes it is hard to tell anything in screen shots but the 1000 is "clearly" better.

One major point to consider is when 4K Blu ray hits the JVC owners will be SOL.
post #1967 of 4380
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I compared it to the RS55.

A casterated RS65
post #1968 of 4380
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A casterated RS65

Doubt it. I had last year's side by side and differences were very slight at best. Of course sample varience does come into play. If I did the same this year who's to say the 55 isn't better than the average 55? Or possibly less. It is a tough gamble which is why I just checked out the 55 (X70) this time around.

And for those that care about 3D the Sonys beat the jvcs pretty easily this year. Jvc was much better last year.
post #1969 of 4380
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A casterated RS65

And the sad part is I would choose the rs45 over its bigger brothers. Especially for the money. I've been a jvc fan since the rs1 and am still amazed by the jvc's picture but light output along with 4k of the sony make them two completely different animals that shouldnt even really be compared. I was pretty certain I was going to buy the rs45 or 2 rs45s about 3 weeks ago until Mike had me talk to him about the 1000. Kinda strange going from that price range to that of the sony so quickly and didnt even really have to think twice about it.
post #1970 of 4380
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Originally Posted by audiovideoholic View Post

And the sad part is I would choose the rs45 over its bigger brothers. Especially for the money. I've been a jvc fan since the rs1 and am still amazed by the jvc's picture but light output along with 4k of the sony make them two completely different animals that shouldnt even really be compared. I was pretty certain I was going to buy the rs45 or 2 rs45s about 3 weeks ago until Mike had me talk to him about the 1000. Kinda strange going from that price range to that of the sony so quickly and didnt even really have to think twice about it.

They both have their pros and cons. With 1080p sources, Based on screen size/gain if light output was sufficient, I'd go for the JVC, if insufficient the Sony.

I'm betting if JVC iintroduce 4k inputs with the next gen E-shift machines the image quality will be so close to true 4k, that most will not be able to tell the difference........but at 50% of the cost.

It would be better if they find a way to add E-shift to the chip it's self rather than have a separate item.
post #1971 of 4380
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I'm as confused as this guy's expression. What are we trying to accomplish?

What? The Purifier. He's just saying that it was hard for him to accept too, the first time I heard these words... But he changed. He let them take away my pain. Just was you will change when you realize the threshold to the Underverse will be crossed only by those who have embraced the Necromonger faith, by those of you who will right now, drop to your knees, and ask, to be purified.
post #1972 of 4380
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Originally Posted by SaulP View Post

What? The Purifier. He's just saying that it was hard for him to accept too, the first time I heard these words... But he changed. He let them take away my pain. Just was you will change when you realize the threshold to the Underverse will be crossed only by those who have embraced the Necromonger faith, by those of you who will right now, drop to your knees, and ask, to be purified.

Love it!!!!
post #1973 of 4380
TinTin looks amazing in 3D. Still in awe. We also enjoyed the adventure. Not bad.
post #1974 of 4380
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Doubt it. I had last year's side by side and differences were very slight at best. Of course sample varience does come into play. If I did the same this year who's to say the 55 isn't better than the average 55? Or possibly less. It is a tough gamble which is why I just checked out the 55 (X70) this time around.

And for those that care about 3D the Sonys beat the jvcs pretty easily this year. Jvc was much better last year.

AVForum review quoted from doing A/B comparisons.

Once calibrated the image really is one of the best available at any price under £20k with an analogue film like look that movie fans will drool over. One of the big advantages that was clear to see straight away swapping from the X70 to the X90 was image sharpness from the lens used in the X90. This really was a difference that I wasn't quite expecting to stand out as much as it did and with E-shift it really was an image that while very sharp, didn't lose that cinematic quality almost all enthusiasts strive for.
post #1975 of 4380
Comparisons.
OOTB X90 FILM preset Gamma available 1-4 4 is 2.1 highest in this mode MPC=3 Sharpness 20 Can`t wait to get this calibrated to 2.4 130hours to go..


VW-1000 Joe`s pic i nicked off his site.


OOTB JVC X90 FILM preset MPC=3 gamma 1.8 Sharpness 10 unedited photobucket resized it.
post #1976 of 4380
Can we take this comparison discussion to another thread? This is basically a 1000 owners thread, and the comparison is useless anyway. Its not even the same reviewers, environment, etc. And if it WERE, its not the same screen, or even screen size. What is the purpose of this? Please start a thread for JVC vs Sony and keep it out of here.
post #1977 of 4380
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Can we take this comparison discussion to another thread? This is basically a 1000 owners thread, and the comparison is useless anyway. Its not even the same reviewers, environment, etc. And if it WERE, its not the same screen, or even screen size. What is the purpose of this? Please start a thread for JVC vs Sony and keep it out of here.

I agree. I like Thrang's comment. The face on these pics is the appropriate response to the comparison pics.
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post #1979 of 4380
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Originally Posted by Highjinx View Post

They both have their pros and cons. With 1080p sources, Based on screen size/gain if light output was sufficient, I'd go for the JVC, if insufficient the Sony.

I'm betting if JVC iintroduce 4k inputs with the next gen E-shift machines the image quality will be so close to true 4k, that most will not be able to tell the difference........but at 50% of the cost.

It would be better if they find a way to add E-shift to the chip it's self rather than have a separate item.

When I talked to one of the technical types from JVC Professional Products group at CEDIA (where they introduced the e-Shift models) that person said the projectors didn't have 4K inputs because the HDMI chips to support 4K input were not ready at the point in time when they were finalizing the projector's design. If that is correct then perhaps the 2013 models will include this capability. Clearly Sony's design for the VW1000 was able to include HDMI inputs for 4K, but not 3D at 4K because the HDMI 1.4a standard does not support that. Sony rep at CEDIA said they hope that capability will be included in a future version of HDMI (perhaps ver. 1.5) and then in future Sony 4K projectors. So the bottom line is I would expect to see some evolution of 4K capabilities over the next couple of years as the HDMI standard evolves and as the HDMI chip manufacturers catch up with the latest standard.
post #1980 of 4380
I believe mark mentioned sony will make an upgrade available in the future to accept 4k at all required refresh rates...
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