Sony VPL-vw1000 - Page 138

"...once you factored out screen size and brightness issues"

This is where lumens and contrast become a factor.

Curious about this as well. Spec is 8k. Also wondering if the SXRD panels can be manually aligned like the cinema DLP chips.

I want to do 13' wide minimum, microperf, unity gain screen, 3D, and zoom. I was hoping to be able to use the vw1000, but I don't think it would have enough light. I'm pretty excited about the 515 based on specs. It can do passive 3D without needing a stack. My PJ room is outside of the theater. I have the power, cooling, and space for it.

Unfortunately, with unity gain, I dont think you will be happy with the 1000 and 3d. I have the EN4k screen, which is well under unity gain at around .77, and I get "enough" light right now at about 10ftL in 2d at 160" wide scope. But 3d is too dim. I keep trying, and tried twice with the Hobbit, but its just too dim.

The sample I have of Stewart microperf ST130 seems like it would be bright enough in 3d to be OK. The sample of Snomatte unity gain microperf does not seem like it would be bright enough.

But when you get that 515 you can do the Hobbit at 48fps! (*need Peter Jackson to send you a special copy)

"Supports 2K 3D HFR (48P/60P) as standard"

But you may need your own Nuclear power source...

"450W lamp: Max. 4.3kW 330W lamp: Max. 3.2kW"
Edited by hifiaudio2 - 3/21/13 at 7:50am

Every time I see one of these posts, that typically excludes throw distance, I feel I have to chime in. This exact setup is doable (YMMV on what you consider "doable") in 3D and 2D, even with an aged bulb, if your throw is short enough.

I am almost minimum throw. 19'4" on 160" wide,

Hmm, I was at 15ftL at over 500 hours on a bulb post calibration. That was in high lamp on 16:9 though. I run zoomed Scope too no issue, in 2D or 3D.

Yep - if I run the numbers at eliteprojectorcalculator.com and mess with it until I get 10 ftL for my 2:35 160", changing that to an equivalent 68" high 16:9 screen gives me 15ftL.

I'm within 8" of min throw on 13' wide stewart micro150 and 3D is easily watchable but would like it to be brighter for sure. 2D is easily bright enough with (guessing) 400 hours or so.

Best place to get back up 3D glasses for my 1000ES to provide for our guest. I am sure this is probably posted some where here in the 138 pages; so sorry to have to ask again.

I went to Magnolia and bought the Sony TDGBR750 glasses and they did not work.

Looking for price and dealer.

Thanks,

Jim

They are about $575.00 in Japan depending on exchange rate, about $100 cheaper than the states currently, but again thats because of exchange rate.

An even more eye opening quote from that article:

Damn.

The other day I went to the movie theater for the first time since setting up my Panasonic 8000. Even compared to my lowly PJ, the movie projection look blurry and dim. And this was Cinemark XD, which is their poor man's version of IMAX, but still supposedly a step up from a standard projection setup. 4K HT is only going to further put movie theaters to shame.

As an owner of this projector for about one year, I have been plugging it as the finest projector I have seen. I have owned many many projectors including toip of the line highly modified FP CRTs, DLPs, D-ilas, and SXRDs. I have seen many 1080p projectors and many commercial projectors of all technologies.

Reviewer opinions are nice but I really could give a flying F as to what they say.I have met no one who with a reasonably sized screen who really doen't like it except for those who prefer 3 chip DLPs. It is not for huge low gain screens or for one who appreciates and weighs heavily what a 3 chip DLP does beter than any LCD projector ( a SXRD is an LCD). The SXRD LCD does many things better than a DLP but once again a DLP is better in some regards. I have absolutely no desire to replace the 1000ES with anything else and it will make the move to Florida with me and will light up a new Snomatt there.
Edited by mark haflich - 3/24/13 at 11:19pm

I must be lucky. I swear my area is doing projection right when it comes to commercial theaters. I have three local Regal Cinemas (all of which have made the switch to 4K projectors on most of their screens) and a couple local smaller lesser known commercial theater names that also have installed 4K projectors. With the exception to on/off contrast, all of these theaters have been stellar in the PQ department as far as I'm concerned. The picture always looks crystal clear, perfectly sharp, motion seems PERFECT, color looks correct and ANSI contrast looks superb. The only caveat would be the screens that these theaters are using. It looks to be a higher gain (1.5 I'd guess) screen and if you're sitting close enough or look hard enough you can see some sparklies here and there.

There is one local theater that is still clinging to film. I've seen one or two films there over the last couple years and it looked like garbage compared to the 4K machines these theaters have.

Funny you should mention that.

I was watching SkyFall on my trusty ol' Panny AE2000 last night.
It blew away the 2KBarcoDCP theatrical presentation I saw last november..

I do own the Sony 4K and the picture detail it can put out is phenomenal.
Sometimes too much so as it exposes the limitations of the format(Particularly 35mm derived films on grainy stock)......or even 2K digital digital movies(like Tron Legacy---"filmed" on Sony's 1st generation 1080p Cine-Alta-digi-cam).
Any movies with a heavy grain density and I resort to my Panny over the Sony4K.

I've been completely underwhelmed with theatrical presentations, film or especially digital, for a long time; poor contrast, elevated blacks, generally a flat or dull image. Film presentations can sometimes seem to exhibit excessive grain structure (perhaps the desire to have larger screens and closer seating is exacerbating this for me).

Plus my feet stick to the floor.

Home viewing, even prior to the 1000, has been far superior.

There are a lot of dark scenes in Skyfall and lots of blacks in lighter scenes as well. HTs almost regardless of the projector can present blacks with my greater detail than possible at a movie theater.this is the first thing that will grab you. With my Sony everything is really sharp and detail is made even easier to see by a Darblet.

Indeed.

Film purists argue that 35/70mm projection offers true blacks because light simply does not shine through the darkened emulsion of a frame as the celluloid passes through the projector gate.
The flip side is that due to the photochemical duplication process conventional 35/70mm theatrical prints suffered from optical degradation.

Compounded by the accumulation of dirt and tears (and the sometimes unstable film as it passed through the gate) that was inherent in analogue projection and going digital was a no brainer.

I don't have a Darblet but the quality of detail that the Sony 4K puts out is breathtaking....it is like a mini-IMAX.

Have you all seen the documentary Side by Side? If not, I recommend, right up your alley. It's about the transition from film to digital in Hollywood and features Keanu Reeves interviewing Fincher, Lynch, Rodriguez, Scorcese, Lucas, Soderbergh, Boyle, Nolan, Cameron as well as cinematographers and colorists.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Side_by_Side/70239473?trkid=2361637

I forget who but one director says he never goes to local movie theaters because the accumulated distortion and degradation by the time you get to the multiplex is too painful to watch (he's referring to film).

I watched the 2d presentation of the Hobbit a few weeks ago, at home on the Sony. The presentation was sublime. Infact when you see an image like that, you know you've made the right choice as far as the pj is concerned.

Even End of Watch looked superb. I've owned the Sony since Feb 2012 and can't say I have any regrets:cool:

Yes.

Any movie shot with digital cameras (such as The Hobbit ---shot on Red Epic) will really shine.

Thanks---I saw trailers for Side By Side last year---look forward to seeing it.

Lucas in particular received rebuke in the early 2000's for shooting Attack Of The Clones on the 1st generation Sony Cine-Alta F35......many complaining that a 1080p master could not match a 35mm filmed negative.
But the fact of the matter is that a lot of resolution is lost as they duplicate 35mm prints to go out to cinemas; the final theatrical print being little above the equivalent of 720p---much less than 1080p!

Digital does not suffer from such degradation.

So Lucas was vindicated in this regard.

And Attack Of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith are demo material on the Sony4k!!
Edited by TheSony4KRises - 3/25/13 at 2:11pm

There needs to be a special effects and music only mode so we hear none of the horrid dialogue. Then its demo material!

Just watched Zero Dark Thirty on the vw1000 last night. Man, talk about a great transfer! Skin tones and detail are incredible.

What source--BD, internet,..?

Blu Ray

A bigger Snomatt?

Just spoke with "Redray" and we are still up in the air on a possible ship date. Will Sony or Netflix beat them to the punch?

The Redry is a player SD card, drive, or internet downloaded content. The lame ass excuse for something that was supposed to ship in January is that they contracted with a third party to develop software and the third party is late, not them.

Regardless their internet content distributor for content, Odemax, hasn't been heard from since jan 2oth is not ansering emails (it was supposed to have a psartial roll out at sundance inlate january and a full roll out this month. I think its dead.
Edited by mark haflich - 3/27/13 at 9:38am