Originally Posted by discodol
I have not seen any true 4k on a projector but I have seen true 4k on the Sony 65" panel and it is totally awesome!
It is so much better than 1080p that when Sony produces the 65" panel without the speakers, which my dealer says should be very soon, I am seriously thinking about replacing my 65" Panny VT30 with one so we can enjoy 4k
during the middle of the day when I don't want to lower all the black out shades.
The truth be told I hope someone comes out with a 4k panel larger than 65" pretty soon so I can go larger as after looking at my 1000ES on a 124" screen a 65" panel seems more like looking at a postage stamp that a tv!!!
I am so desperate for some true 4k content that I just put a 4k video card in my pc so I can attempt to view some 4k that I am hoping to find on the WWW!
That is how good true 4k is to my eyes!
Since this is a very slow time around here, I will ask some leading questions and throw some crackling logs on the fire.
Did you also see a non 4K source on the Sony 4HD 65 inch panel? Specifically, did you see a 1080p bluray upscaled to 4HD on that Sony panel? Are you being wowed by observing 8 times the pixels on the display panel or a source that has 8 times the detail and at a higher bit rate.. I'll answer for you. BOTH. But can you please separate the two? yea. I know you can't.
I am a strong advocate of 4K or 4HD displays. But that advocacy at this point comes just from the display being 4k or 4HD.
Sure there will be a visual quality difference between 4HD upscaled 1080p and 4HD displayedsirect.
But how much difference will this be/
The answer will largely depend on a variety of factors.. data rates, bit lengths, color space, the compression scheme, how well the material was shot, coded, mastered etc.
moreover, the size of the display will be critical. According to a study done by Joe Kane, you will need a display at least 10 ft wide to get all the benefits of the increased resolution just as one needs a minimum of 6 ft wide for 1080p.
And here lies another rub. A vast amount of 4K stuff being shot and mastered by the Red community today is being edited, mastered, coded etc on 50 inch and smaller 4K displays. Cheap Chinese panels for most too. wow. 4k looks good on a 50 inch panel. 4HD panel. but so does 2K upscasled by the panel. Most of it will look like crap on a 10 ft wide displays. Youy can not grade, edit etc in 4Hd on a small panel and expect it to look great on a big screen. even the early stuff Sony demoed on 4K on its 85 inch panel was pretty miserable when viewed on a large screen lit by the 1000ES. Sony has gotten better here but most of the independents have a long way to catch up and most are clueless. They just shoot with their Red 4 and 5k cameras and master and playback on their small cheap 4HD panels and exclaim how good it looks.
OK Boys. Time to watch the Open upscaled to 4HD from 720p on my 1000ES. I'll check back later to monitor the brush fire.