Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland
Steve, you may want to read the Sony “Terms of Service” here
. It is one of the major reasons that I will never invest very much into content that is not covered by the First Sale Doctrine. Also note that most all these licensed providers have this in their TOS: These terms may be changed any time, in whole or part, with or without prior notification. IOW, they are 100% in the drivers seat.
Sadly that sounds like the case, but as you pointed out every company is in the driver's seat. They can afford the lawyers. I can only control giving them my money. Ironically, some of that money goes to the lawyers.
And I think I already signed their SEN agreement using the PS3. I might have missed where they said the can remove content from my equipment. Reading that link, well just the starting to read it, gave me a headache. Still, Sony has never deleted anything off of my PS3 so hopefully won't touch my FPM either.
The way I see it, I'll get the FPM-X1 and movies with the upgrade. Buying any additional titles is going to take a good reason at $30 a pop. I need to see better PQ and the movie itself has to have eye-candy and re-watchable appeal. I've spent way too much on Laserdiscs, DVDs, HD-DVDs, and BDs to keep spending more without a damn good reason, especially for any titles that I already own on the other format. So, right away that eliminates any comedy, drama or character piece. I'll probably only spring for new titles that are a "must have" in 4K. My point has been that I don't want to go through the whole DVD -> HD-DVD -> mpeg2 BD process again. I'll let that all play out and rent BDs at RedBox until it gets sorted out. The FPM must be substantially better to make me want to own it on something other than a disc that apparently Sony can still screw with. I can wait for 4KBD too if I have too.
Originally Posted by Tj8xp
Stevenjw I have 2 of Sony's 65 900a 4k sets with the FMP-x1 servers along with my 1000 projector that awaits the upgrade to use the FMP-x1 and on the 65 sets the movies at best look no better then BluRay versions of the films. I Like the 4k Master Discs and think there better then the movies on the server on my 65 inch sets they look VERY good when played off my 790 Bluray player to the 4k set. I am more looking forward to see how they will look on the 1100 after our upgrade. It seems the compression used on the 4k server is not that great.... The demo stuff can look good really good but most you have seen on the net. Things like the honey bee's and the puppy dogs taking a bath ect, ect. Now again I heard from a Sony rep that there know the compression is not the best and will change it soon but who knows he was a rep....... Again this is my opinion and it could be you will not agree and I'm wrong... But I think if your anything like me you will be disappointed with the 10 movies and the other few they have........ Tj8xp
I've already said that I'm not happy buying the bundle, but must in order to get the upgrade and I don't want to sell the equipment at a loss, at least not immediately. I'm still trying to determine if the FREE content is worse, the same, slightly, or much better than BDs. I guess I'll need to see it for myself and I'll be able to do an A/B comparison with the Mastered in 4K BDs too. I'll know for sure at that point. However, even if I determine that is not NOTICEABLY better, I'll probably still need to keep it because it's the only game in town and may have the potential to improve with an upgrade. We can hope....
Originally Posted by piratemonkey
I could be totally wrong here so apologize in advance if so but aren't we supposed to watch a 4k mastered disc is with the new sony 4k bd player because you need to use the proprietary algorithm that Sony uses to compress and upscale.....without that I'm guessing it would play back like any other Blu-ray Disc whether you have the proper video card in your HTCP or not?
I'll apologize in advance too because I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say in response to my post about LoA bitrate. I don't expect to play any 4K movies back over the HTPC, just the clips that are available on the net or games in 4K. I bought the card in order for it to upscale my current collection of titles using the terrific JRiver/MadVR JINC+AR combo. My understanding is that even if I could move the content off the puck and play it back through the HTPC, I'd run into HDCP 2.2 issues. My guess is that you're also correct in that I'd need a software player that could playback content stored using eyeIO compression. My post wasn't looking for a way to play this content back over my HTPC, I was simply stating what I saw in terms of size and bitrates for my BD copy of LoA. Besides, why would I need to use my HTPC when I'd already own the FPM? Did I miss something?Edited by stevenjw - 12/10/13 at 7:04pm