Sony VPL-vw1000 - Page 26

Randall, I'd be interested in your findings regarding the screen as well. I'll be using a 11.5' non-AT Stewart to view the 1000 tonight (it is currently sitting in a box!), but I'm also considering using one of these on my 12' AT Cinecurve in my FL house.


Jim

Randall,

Did you have a chance to compare your marantz on a non-AT screen? Do you feel like you are losing much in image quality? How far back do you have to be to not have the holes make an impact?

I'm used to a non-AT ST130 and an RS1. I'm going to a 2.35 141" ST130 Microperf. I want to upgrade the screen size and video quality.

Jim, give us a report and a screen gain (I assume the numbers you threw out were widths on a 2.35. I'm trying finalize my screen, but will likely try it in my old ST130 in the mean time.

Will do Ben, and yes, that's correct (2.37 actually for the screen here, and 2.40 on the Cinecurve in FL). I've always preferred the 1.25 FH, so that's what I have at both locations. I've worked with the White screens before (ST130, UM100, etc,) but not with my current displays. I've decided to order the ST100 in AT for the Cinecurve just to see the difference. Too many trusted friends suggesting I look at 100 again, so I'll give it a shot, but still not sure which one I'll keep. (I do have a small 9' 16:9 ST130 I'll try with the Sony as well.)


Jim

What size ST100 are you ordering? Screen ratio and width?

I never see the holes but my seating positions are around 12' first row, and 18' second row. If I try real hard I can start to make out the holes on a white screen at 8 or 9 feet. At that point I can't see the individual holes but it looks like a light shading.

I used a 10 foot wide Da Lite Hi Power at my old house but didn't have the Sony then, so the Cinecurve is the only screen I'm using now. I love the screen, but now I wish I had gone to 12' wide. The theater is 17' wide. My designer recommended a 10' screen in my room but I pushed it to 11'.

Wow. This machine throws a really nice picture. Basically took it out of the box, zoom, focus and a tad of vertical shift and adjust one foot. There are a lot of controls and set up options. Basically turned most everything off, turned the lamp down to low, set the iris at about 20 if I remember, color space to 709, d65, gamma 2.2 and am watching Duke vs North Carolina. Tomorrow is measurement day. This baby is quiet too. Lamp cover opening does make a small amount of noise but just a small amount for about 2 seconds. Just a reminder my screen is 1.3 gain Studeotec 130 G2, 54 x96. I am too tired except to sit here and watch. But this thing is clean, smooth, colors just look true, tremendous detail, sharp but smooth.

2.40
144" wide



Jim

Could someone make a video of the Lens door opening & closing with audio? thanks

I took a few measurements with my trusty CA813 meter. Iris full open manual, high lamp gave me 1022.3 lumens. The projector is as far from the screen as possible, so I am zoomed out all the way. I expected a little more but still not too bad.

On/off contrast ratio worked out to 13892:1. Again this is Iris full open manual, high lamp. I had to take the measurement about 5 feet away from the lens because the projector produced more than 2000 fc's(meter's limit) when trying closer to the lens. I did take both measurements in the same spot using a tripod.

The projector does throw a very nice picture.

Anyone using the external Sony IR emitter for 3D? I had to order the RMT PJ1 since my projector is mounted in the equipment room behind the back wall. Problem is, this emitter seems to only work at line of site. I was sure it would work bouncing off the front wall but no dice. Unless I'm missing something?

I'm in the same boat, but my projector and extender won't show up until tomorrow. From the manual, it looked like they wanted the extender ran to the front of the room and fired directly back at the audience.

What are your impressions of the projector? What screen are you using?

That's pretty silly... Now I need to run a cat5 cable to the front of the room oh well.

So far, the projector is fantastic. Mark had a very good description for it, "sharp but smooth". Amazing detail and very bright. I currently have a ST130 8ft wide 16x9 but will be moving to 11ft wide AT screen. Haven't decided on the screen material yet though.

I may have to order the external emitter. I don't have any 3D discs yet, but I will have some tomorrow. I have a fairly large window in my back wall that the projector shoots through. I usually close the window with a plate that only has a small window large enough for the projector to shoot through. The Sony is so quiet I can leave the large window open and maybe this will be enough for the factory emitter to work.

The external OPTIONAL emitter (not included for your $25,000 MSRP in order to keep he MSRP down for people who don't need it) wil work bouncing off a screen. Howevrer its range is limited and the mother is quite directional. There is a twist knb on omne end that changes the direction of the beam emitted. Obviusly it is best to shorten the distance by using it from the screen to the glasses rather than saystarting near the projector and bouncing off the screen. Obviously, it depends on your distance, the texture etc of the screen, and if you can fiqure out where to set the twist knob and how to physicakky aim the emitter. Its no different the emitter that comes with the VPL-HW30AES. Its a pain but dooable. I haven't tried the 1000ES in 3D yet. Man. Did you guys see the two basketball games tionight. Syracuse beating GT in OT, and Duke beating NC with the ball droping through the hoop after time expired?.

You can hear it but its not very loud or obnoxious. Its not whisper quiet either. That's why I said a TAD noisy. It is not worth shooting a film of it with audio. I wish I hadn't made a remark. The machine is quiet.

This is half the lumens Wolfgang and Oliver measured in Germany !

Art

I hope your CA813 needs new batteries, or heaven forbid you made a mistake! Otherwise, this is quite disappointing.

Yeah I realize Wolfgang was at min throw and you are at max... but losing half of the lumens sucks! Guess I will be mounting closer than I thought to get the brightness I will need for a 160" wide enlightor.... hope its truly quiet in high lamp!!!

Randall - any chance you can get a measurement at min throw to compare so we can see if your unit is producing what Wolfgang's did?

OK. I just put a fresh battery in me (coffee and egg, cheese, turkey sausage, english muffin thingy from the freezer), and will go and measure the lumens with the lens at short throw. If you want certain things dione that you think we might not otherwise do, please post or call. I am not shooting videos, recording fan noise etc. I don't do screen shots myself and neither does Tom so please don't ask. Maybe screen shots later this week but not today. OK. Time to turn the beast on and get Art to relax.

Could you measure Lumens at short throw and at the longest throw practical in your room? Preferably post calibration.

Check the manual for the type of cable to run for the extender. I think they wanted cat7 - not cat5.

Can u take a photo of the lens door closed? thanks

One can just leave the projector in one location and zoom the projector to the widest it can go and measure and then just zoom it in all the way down and measure. The screen size is just a pretend.

Randall already posted a picture with the lens door closed. It is a heads on shot and its a flat plastic sliding shutter. Much prettier with it open and then you see the purty gold heat sinks or whatever and all that beautiful glass. But I am really not interested in that, its the picture on the screen that I watch. I will never ever look at the projector when it is installed when I get my own. Never. Its just me. I don't like looking at projectors. Maybe I have seen too many.

I want to see if it will protect the lens from dust
Thanks I saw Randall's picture, I did'nt know it was closed. Is it automatic?

Yes it is automatic and a bit noisy. The picture I took was before I ever turned the projector on as I still had the tape on the cover. The Marantz looks like it is on but its just the camera flash reflecting off the glass.

Just got mine... wow its huge.

HT mag reports less than 900 lumens on high lamp with DI engaged (160 hours on the lamp).


Art