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post #8521 of 9657
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I have my upgrade scheduled for next Tuesday - at my house (California). My dealer will take the projector down from the ceiling for the Sony Contractor earlier that day.

Fingers crossed all goes well and it works afterward. I'll let you know.eek.gif

Exciting! Look forward to hearing about the outcome.
post #8522 of 9657
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.... and those friendships have endured. to me, those friendships have become the most important part of my HT hobby.

So true.
post #8523 of 9657
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Exciting! Look forward to hearing about the outcome.

The contractor is driving up from Pasadena to the Central Coast. Not sure if he is the same guy who will do Berkeley.
post #8524 of 9657
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Originally Posted by hermosa View Post

I have my upgrade scheduled for next Tuesday - at my house (California). My dealer will take the projector down from the ceiling for the Sony Contractor earlier that day.

Fingers crossed all goes well and it works afterward. I'll let you know.eek.gif

Nothing to worry about.
post #8525 of 9657
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Nothing to worry about.

I only worry I am the contractor's first guinea pig.
Edited by hermosa - 2/12/14 at 1:52pm
post #8526 of 9657
Mark H or thrang

Do you know if there is a preference input HDMI 1 or 2 for the video out from the puck (HDMI 1) to the 1000ES? Or does it not matter which projector input you use?

The reason I ask is my 84X900 panel is very specific. It must be puck HDMI 1 out to the TV HDMI 2 input. Apparently the TV input HDMI 2 is the only 4K input that can resolve the Sony encryption from the puck. My Sony 5800ES receiver, even though Sony says it passes 4K, will not resolve the encryption. So the video input must come directly from the puck.
Edited by hermosa - 2/12/14 at 1:57pm
post #8527 of 9657
There is no input on the 1000Es that will accept the puck output in 4K. If you hook it up, the puck if already set up will output 480p. Once you upgrade to the 1100ES you need to hook up the puck via HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 on the projector. The input chip on HDMI 2 is different than the input chip for HDMI 1. The Input chip for HDMI 2is consistent with HDCP 2.2 which the Sony puck requires for UHD or 4K output.
Edited by mark haflich - 2/12/14 at 4:48pm
post #8528 of 9657
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

There is no input on the 1000Es that will accept the puck output in 4K. If you hook it up, the puck if already set up will output 480p. Once you upgrade to the 1100ES you need to hook up the puck via HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 on the projector. The input chip on HDMI 2 is different than the input chip for HDMI. Input chip two is consistent with HDCP 2.2 which the Sony puck required for UHD or 4K output.r

Great, thanks. At least it is consistent with the 4K panel on which input to use.

So I guess that also means that when we start to get non-puck 4K content, we must use HDMI 2 projector input as well? Or will that depend upon how the non-Sony content is provided?

Netflix said that House of Cards will be in 4K streaming starting February 14. I wonder what that means for HDCP in this case? Any idea at this early point?
post #8529 of 9657
No. I don't think that is right. I think HDMI1 which does not change between the 1000ES and the 1100ES will handle up to 4k 30. Input HDMI 2 on the 1100ES will handle 4K 60 plus is compliant with HDCP 2.2.
post #8530 of 9657
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Originally Posted by hermosa View Post

Netflix said that House of Cards will be in 4K streaming starting February 14. I wonder what that means for HDCP in this case? Any idea at this early point?

It is going to be in 4K on certain devices, but it isn't on anything that will connect to a 1000ES/1100ES.

I don't even know if anything is out that supports it.
post #8531 of 9657
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It is going to be in 4K on certain devices, but it isn't on anything that will connect to a 1000ES/1100ES.

I don't even know if anything is out that supports it.

I never read anything about which specific devices, but I thought I read somewhere that the issue is compression and decompression - and only certain TVs will be able to do that. I assume that means you would have to use the Netflix app on certain 4K TVs to do the decompressing in order to play. That lets out the 1000ES. I will try in on my 84" 4K Sony TV when it comes out to see if that works.
post #8532 of 9657
Sony asked for all names and address for our upgrade customers today (I have sent them the info). Looks like things are starting to move forward. smile.gif
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post #8533 of 9657
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Originally Posted by hermosa View Post


Great, thanks. At least it is consistent with the 4K panel on which input to use.

So I guess that also means that when we start to get non-puck 4K content, we must use HDMI 2 projector input as well? Or will that depend upon how the non-Sony content is provided?

Netflix said that House of Cards will be in 4K streaming starting February 14. I wonder what that means for HDCP in this case? Any idea at this early point?

 

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Originally Posted by turls View Post


It is going to be in 4K on certain devices, but it isn't on anything that will connect to a 1000ES/1100ES.

I don't even know if anything is out that supports it.

 

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Originally Posted by hermosa View Post


I never read anything about which specific devices, but I thought I read somewhere that the issue is compression and decompression - and only certain TVs will be able to do that. I assume that means you would have to use the Netflix app on certain 4K TVs to do the decompressing in order to play. That lets out the 1000ES. I will try in on my 84" 4K Sony TV when it comes out to see if that works.

 

 

Netflix 4K is going to require a device with HEVC decoding support.

 

Sony introduced new 4K TV's at CES this year that work with Netflix.  Here's a the quote:

 

"The 4K television line that Sony introduced at the recent 2014 CES consists of 3 series (up from 2 last year) with 9 total models. Screen sizes range from 49 inches all the way up to 85 inches. According to a Sony spokesperson, the new sets offer a number of improvements over the 2013 models, including HEVC decoding (for upcoming Netflix 4K streaming), HDMI 2.0 inputs and HDCP 2.2 content protection."

 

Here's the link:

 

http://hdguru.com/sony-2014-4k-uhdtv-prices-leaked/

post #8534 of 9657
So I'm guessing that Sony's second generation of the Video server puck will have HEVC capability to be compatible with their earlier flat panels and the 1000/1100's?

Thinking about it, The server may only work with the Sony program library?
Edited by BOBCAT - 2/13/14 at 9:04am
post #8535 of 9657
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Sony asked for all names and address for our upgrade customers today (I have sent them the info). Looks like things are starting to move forward. smile.gif

Nice! Thanks for the update, Mike.
post #8536 of 9657
Mike, How many are on your list?
post #8537 of 9657
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Originally Posted by BOBCAT View Post

Mike, How many are on your list?

37 waiting for kits. Should give us the largest buying power for distribution of the kits.
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post #8538 of 9657
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Originally Posted by BOBCAT View Post

So I'm guessing that Sony's second generation of the Video server puck will have HEVC capability to be compatible with their earlier flat panels and the 1000/1100's?

Thinking about it, The server may only work with the Sony program library?

No. it will do streaming from Sony's partners. it will do 265 but that has nothing to do with the display.
post #8539 of 9657
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

37 waiting for kits. Should give us the largest buying power for distribution of the kits.

Ok, just to confirm (if the number that's high I'm not the only one wondering)...you sent our addresses for those that put an order in with you even if we haven't actually purchased the kit yet? Or will we now be seeing the charge any time now?

(No I'm not being wishy-washy about wanting the kit early--I don't--but my bulb is over 1700 hours now and starting to get a little nervous).
post #8540 of 9657
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Sony asked for all names and address for our upgrade customers today (I have sent them the info). Looks like things are starting to move forward. smile.gif

YES!!! It's been weeks without 4K that's my boy and I'm not sure how much longer I can wait.. biggrin.gif
post #8541 of 9657
Good that flick is not in 3D or the wait might have killed you.
post #8542 of 9657
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Originally Posted by turls View Post

Ok, just to confirm (if the number that's high I'm not the only one wondering)...you sent our addresses for those that put an order in with you even if we haven't actually purchased the kit yet? Or will we now be seeing the charge any time now?

(No I'm not being wishy-washy about wanting the kit early--I don't--but my bulb is over 1700 hours now and starting to get a little nervous).

I sent the info in for those that have placed an order with us. You are not charged, until a kit is available for you.
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post #8543 of 9657
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Originally Posted by turls View Post

Ok, just to confirm (if the number that's high I'm not the only one wondering)...you sent our addresses for those that put an order in with you even if we haven't actually purchased the kit yet? Or will we now be seeing the charge any time now?

(No I'm not being wishy-washy about wanting the kit early--I don't--but my bulb is over 1700 hours now and starting to get a little nervous).

I have over 2600 hrs on my lamp, and it's still putting out ~ 700 lumens--what a horse!
post #8544 of 9657
Turls. To the best of my knowledge, AV Science calls you before shipping and charging. AV Science has to get the kits first or a tracking number showing that YOUR kit will be arriving at their warehouse on a date certain. as the dealer, AV Science is the one that sets up your install date and time etc.
post #8545 of 9657
Now if Mike could post the pecking order....
Would like to know where I stand......1,2,17,........21...........37?
post #8546 of 9657
38TH smile.gif
post #8547 of 9657
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

38TH smile.gif

When standing in line, you are looking at the back of his head. biggrin.gif
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post #8548 of 9657
I was going to post I was 39th but I wanted to give you an easy shot. I do this for Craig also. I am happy to be last in line. There is the rest of the Olympics to watch, the remainder of the regular college basketball season, the conference tourneys, the road to the final four, the masters {most of which I will watch on TV (I will be there for a couple of days)) and then the NBA and NHL playoffs.. None of this will be in 4K and my projector bulb is still bright enough.
post #8549 of 9657
Thanks Mike, closer to the front than I thought!smile.gif
post #8550 of 9657
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

I was going to post I was 39th but I wanted to give you an easy shot. I do this for Craig also. I am happy to be last in line. There is the rest of the Olympics to watch, the remainder of the regular college basketball season, the conference tourneys, the road to the final four, the masters {most of which I will watch on TV (I will be there for a couple of days)) and then the NBA and NHL playoffs.. None of this will be in 4K and my projector bulb is still bright enough.

I'm also not wanting to be near the front of the line. Would like them to get it all the kinks worked out by the time they get to me. And I, too, Mark, doubt I'll have much 4K material to deal with.
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