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post #61 of 309
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Actually Toy Story 3 was the first true Dolby 7.1 discrete mix, and it showcased it as the first theatrical release to use the format. Megamind is the first 7.1 BD I know of that uses the actual theatrical master with no changes that I'm aware of (no HT remaster). Tron Legacy is supposedly the same as well.

Home mix with dolby, I never once mentioned cinema mix
post #62 of 309
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Home mix with dolby, I never once mentioned cinema mix

Gotcha.
post #63 of 309
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

Why would they, nothing was shot with IMAX cameras for the third film? That Walmart exclusive was by far the best version of TF2 to own on BD. If only Warner had done as well with The Dark Knight when it came to its blending of film and IMAX footage.

except for that issue with the audio. dialog was much to low and i was constantly messing with the volume (increase during talking; decrease during action)
post #64 of 309
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Originally Posted by mcantu1 View Post

except for that issue with the audio. dialog was much to low and i was constantly messing with the volume (increase during talking; decrease during action)

The audio mix was identical, the volume was just lower.
post #65 of 309
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I mulled over this all night last night. Finally decided I agree. It's the third movie.


Still undecided here......going to mull it over this weekend and will report back.













post #66 of 309
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post


Home mix with dolby, I never once mentioned cinema mix

But that is the only thing Megamind is a first of, original theatrical 7.1THD mix on BD, and that distinction does merit mentioning.
post #67 of 309
A bit off topic but does anyone know if Dolby Surround 7.1 is lossless? Or is it basically Dolby Digital but with two more channels?
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A bit off topic but does anyone know if Dolby Surround 7.1 is lossless? Or is it basically Dolby Digital but with two more channels?


in the theater it isn't. At home it just another lossless 7.1 mix.
post #69 of 309
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in the theater it isn't

So in the theater it runs at the same data rates as Dolby Digital AC3?
post #70 of 309
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in the theater it isn't. At home it just another lossless 7.1 mix.

Are the digital showings not just PCM?
post #71 of 309
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Originally Posted by XxDeadlyxX
A bit off topic but does anyone know if Dolby Surround 7.1 is lossless? Or is it basically Dolby Digital but with two more channels?
For theatrical presentaion, Dolby Surround 7.1 can only be achieved using DCP (aka D-Cinema aka Digital Presentation.) and is straight LPCM... the only thing that makes it Dolby is a cinema processor upgrade that knows what to do with the 7.1 input.... IOW, it is a B-Chain "process."

For the home, the same audio PCM master can be used to author a disc in PCM, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 or DTS HD MA 7.1.
post #72 of 309
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer

For theatrical presentaion, Dolby Surround 7.1 can only be achieved using DCP (aka D-Cinema aka Digital Presentation.) and is straight LPCM... the only thing that makes it Dolby is a cinema processor upgrade that knows what to do with the 7.1 input.... IOW, it is a B-Chain "process."

For the home, the same audio PCM master can be used to author a disc in PCM, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 or DTS HD MA 7.1.
Thought it was PCM
post #73 of 309
Whatever or however the audio is... I may rent this when I want want a movie that acts on your body much like a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster:

"Rather like having your brains smashed out with a slice of lemon, wrapped around a large gold brick."

And that's a Michael Baysplosion movie for you. Too bad most summer movies are fast becoming clones of his filmmaking "process."
post #74 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman
Whatever or however the audio is... I may rent this when I want want a movie that acts on your body much like a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster:

"Rather like having your brains smashed out with a slice of lemon, wrapped around a large gold brick."

And that's a Michael Baysplosion movie for you. Too bad most summer movies are fast becoming clones of his filmmaking "process."
I rather enjoyed it actually
post #75 of 309
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I rather enjoyed it actually
To quoth South Park:

General: "Those aren't ideas! Those are special effects!"
Michael Bay: "I don't know the difference."
General: "I know you don't."

I love bashing Bay movies...

In fact, he wholesale recycled stunt sequence footage from The Island for TF3.
post #76 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

To quoth South Park:

General: "Those aren't ideas! Those are special effects!"
Michael Bay: "I don't know the difference."
General: "I know you don't."

I love bashing Bay movies...

In fact, he wholesale recycled stunt sequence footage from The Island for TF3.
To save people from harm, that is why he reused
post #77 of 309
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To save people from harm, that is why he reused
My God! Michael Bay has gone green!

Well, at least he didn't go plaid.
post #78 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

My God! Michael Bay has gone green!
I still don't get the come into a thread to show how much you hate something mentality.
People nearly died filming that sequence, so he decided not to put more people at risk.
post #79 of 309
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I still don't get the come into a thread to show how much you hate something mentality.
People nearly died filming that sequence, so he decided not to put more people at risk.
That's a good thing, but couldn't he or his stunt coordinator come up with a different stunt piece?

If all of us Bay movie dislikers didn't show up, there probably wouldn't be as long a thread...



And for the record, I do own The Rock, which wasn't half bad for a hard-core action movie. I could even stand Bay's patented 2 second edits and the "constantly in motion camera" style in that one. Perhaps because Connery was particularly badass.

Goodspeed: I'll do my best.

Mason: Your best??!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and ---- the prom queen!
post #80 of 309
If the first two BD's are anything to go on, then this one will be unreal at home. The sound design was absolutely killer.

I like the first Transformers, tolerate the second one when my wife wants to watch it, and am actually looking forward to hearing this one a lot. There's so much going on that it's basically just a big LONG demo scene anyway. Can't really remember what it was about.
post #81 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

That's a good thing, but couldn't he or his stunt coordinator come up with a different stunt piece?

If all of us Bay movie dislikers didn't show up, there probably wouldn't be as long a thread...



And for the record, I do own The Rock, which wasn't half bad for a hard-core action movie. I could even stand Bay's patented 2 second edits in that one. Perhaps because Connery was badass.
I have at least liked all his movies, and the island stuff is only a few seconds really
post #82 of 309
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I have at least liked all his movies, and the island stuff is only a few seconds really
I almost liked The Island because it at least "borrowed" an interesting sci-fi "morality play" premise used often to great effect of using clones for biomedical research and exploitive transplantation. That premise was used brilliantly in the recent Never Let Me Go. And the potential for a thrilling chase movie with a very attractive Scarlett Johansson (talk about va-va-va-voom!) as one of the lead clones.

But then it devolved into your typical silly Bay movie with some more than usual wincingly bad dialog.
post #83 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

And that's a Michael Baysplosion movie for you. Too bad most summer movies are fast becoming clones of his filmmaking "process."
It will blow over soon. I'm glad I don't own any of his horrible, insulting films.
post #84 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

I almost liked The Island because it at least "borrowed" an interesting sci-fi "morality play" premise used often to great effect of using clones for biomedical research and exploitive transplantation, which was used brilliantly in the recent Never Let Me Go. And the potential for a thrilling chase movie with a very attractive Scarlett Johansson (talk about va-va-va-voom!) as one of the lead clones.

But then it devolved into your typical silly Bay movie with some more than usual wincingly bad dialog.
The chase in the Island is one of the best filmed imho
post #85 of 309
I love the transformer movies
post #86 of 309
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post
The chase in the Island is one of the best filmed imho
Granted, I did like his choice that time of using a lot of practical, physical effects in those scenes rather than just CGI-ing the hell out of them.

Again, the greatest special effect was Scarlett in slo-mo!

Oh boy, I'm going to hell for sure.
post #87 of 309
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

Granted, I did like his choice that time of using a lot of practical, physical effects in those scenes rather than just CGI-ing the hell out of them.

Again, the greatest special effect was Scarlett in slow-mo!

Oh boy, I'm going to hell for sure.
He always uses a ton of practical effects
post #88 of 309
I found Transformers 3 to be enjoyable albeit a tad too long. I find Michael Bay's movies to be entertaining and fun, and that's all I ever really expect from him. Other than Pearl Harbor, I've never been let down. I don't go in expecting Citizen Kane or The Bicycle Thief, though. If the IMAX presentation I saw was any indication, this will be a killer disc in both audio/video.
post #89 of 309
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

He always uses a ton of practical effects

Yep. But it's so fahionable to "hate" the guy that people just don't see it. Not many can shoot an action scene like him. But nooooo, it's Michael Bay so it's obviously tasteless crap.
post #90 of 309
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

For theatrical presentaion, Dolby Surround 7.1 can only be achieved using DCP (aka D-Cinema aka Digital Presentation.) and is straight LPCM... the only thing that makes it Dolby is a cinema processor upgrade that knows what to do with the 7.1 input.... IOW, it is a B-Chain "process."

For the home, the same audio PCM master can be used to author a disc in PCM, Dolby TrueHD 7.1 or DTS HD MA 7.1.

Thanks for the info. Good to know.
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