My apologies if this question is answered elsewhere. I did search but couldn't find anything current.
Briefly, are there any recorders on the market today (2011) - vcr, vcr/dvd, dvr - other than Tivo or the DVR boxes rented at outrageous prices by the cable & satellite companies- which can control, i.e. change channels, on Comcast digital cable boxes for timer recordings?
Setup:
3 old Trinitron TVs*.
We're using a Panasonic PV-VS4821 (the last barely surviving member of a triumvirate) on one, a relatively new Toshiba DVR (no HDD) DVR670KU, and a brand-new Magnavox 515**. All set up with splitters (cable from outside to splitter inside; one internal cable to recorder, one to cable box).
Prior to the digital disaster, we got 80-100 unscrambled channels from Comcast and the Panasonic was able to change channels on the Comcast cable box so we could record multiple channels over time. We only needed to use the L1 option for channels beyond the TV/recorder's ability to recognize or for pay services such as HBO. For a brief period, Comcast offered through its software an option to set the cable box to change to a particular channel at a particular time which made the L1 option easy to use.
Subsequent to the digital disaster, Comcast has scrambled all but a handful of local channels. Among the scrambled ones are such high premium services as PBS and C-SPAN. Comcast also removed from its software the ability to set the cable box to a particular channel at a particular time. (We assume it did both in order to force consumers to pay $16/mo for a DVR for each TV if they want to do timer recordings.)
So, although we can watch one channel with our setups while recording another, we can do this only if one of the channels is among the half-dozen unscrambled or DTV (does anybody watch any of these?) channels. This is rarely the case. Most often, we are likely to want to watch two different scrambled channels. .
And, since almost all of the channels we record from are scrambled, we have to use the L1 option AND remember to turn the TV set to the channel to be recorded. Needless to say, if we want to record two or three scrambled channels when nobody is home, we have to remember to manually set the cable channel on each TV. This is a pain.
So, to get back to the briefly stated question above: are there any recorders today (don't care if they are VCR, DVR, or DVR/HDD) which can change the cable channels on the Comcast digital cable box at specific times? Or is there some third-party device that can do the same? (And if there isn't, there should certainly be an entrepreneur somewhere who could seize the opportunity.)
RS
*The TVs work perfectly. The picture quality, after 8-10 years, remains so good we've been unable to detect any difference from that available from HDTV so we see no reason to buy what are still exceptionally expensive TVs.
**Setting up the 515 was a snap. We just swapped the cables from a dead Panasonic to the 515 in sequence. However, since the digital disaster, we discovered that reception of unscrambled channels on the Toshiba was of low quality (slightly snowy) and DTV channel reception was iffy. Same problem with the 515 which leads us to the conclusion that the combo of digital channels and a digital tuner is not good for reception. Following the recommendations in the 515 thread, we changed the cable setup so it goes from outside to the 515 and then from the 515 to the cable box. This markedly improved the reception of the unscrambled channels although it is still inferior to that of the analog Panasonic off a splitter.
Briefly, are there any recorders on the market today (2011) - vcr, vcr/dvd, dvr - other than Tivo or the DVR boxes rented at outrageous prices by the cable & satellite companies- which can control, i.e. change channels, on Comcast digital cable boxes for timer recordings?
Setup:
3 old Trinitron TVs*.
We're using a Panasonic PV-VS4821 (the last barely surviving member of a triumvirate) on one, a relatively new Toshiba DVR (no HDD) DVR670KU, and a brand-new Magnavox 515**. All set up with splitters (cable from outside to splitter inside; one internal cable to recorder, one to cable box).
Prior to the digital disaster, we got 80-100 unscrambled channels from Comcast and the Panasonic was able to change channels on the Comcast cable box so we could record multiple channels over time. We only needed to use the L1 option for channels beyond the TV/recorder's ability to recognize or for pay services such as HBO. For a brief period, Comcast offered through its software an option to set the cable box to change to a particular channel at a particular time which made the L1 option easy to use.
Subsequent to the digital disaster, Comcast has scrambled all but a handful of local channels. Among the scrambled ones are such high premium services as PBS and C-SPAN. Comcast also removed from its software the ability to set the cable box to a particular channel at a particular time. (We assume it did both in order to force consumers to pay $16/mo for a DVR for each TV if they want to do timer recordings.)
So, although we can watch one channel with our setups while recording another, we can do this only if one of the channels is among the half-dozen unscrambled or DTV (does anybody watch any of these?) channels. This is rarely the case. Most often, we are likely to want to watch two different scrambled channels. .
And, since almost all of the channels we record from are scrambled, we have to use the L1 option AND remember to turn the TV set to the channel to be recorded. Needless to say, if we want to record two or three scrambled channels when nobody is home, we have to remember to manually set the cable channel on each TV. This is a pain.
So, to get back to the briefly stated question above: are there any recorders today (don't care if they are VCR, DVR, or DVR/HDD) which can change the cable channels on the Comcast digital cable box at specific times? Or is there some third-party device that can do the same? (And if there isn't, there should certainly be an entrepreneur somewhere who could seize the opportunity.)
RS
*The TVs work perfectly. The picture quality, after 8-10 years, remains so good we've been unable to detect any difference from that available from HDTV so we see no reason to buy what are still exceptionally expensive TVs.
**Setting up the 515 was a snap. We just swapped the cables from a dead Panasonic to the 515 in sequence. However, since the digital disaster, we discovered that reception of unscrambled channels on the Toshiba was of low quality (slightly snowy) and DTV channel reception was iffy. Same problem with the 515 which leads us to the conclusion that the combo of digital channels and a digital tuner is not good for reception. Following the recommendations in the 515 thread, we changed the cable setup so it goes from outside to the 515 and then from the 515 to the cable box. This markedly improved the reception of the unscrambled channels although it is still inferior to that of the analog Panasonic off a splitter.

















) it's database is probably older than the one in the DVDRs database. I haven't seen a replacement for this device.




