Channel Master TV CM 7400 HD DVR - OTA, Clear QAM, Internet Content - Page 44

I am not sure they know what their doing. I just looked and it appears the 7000 is again out of stock. What gives with CM? They do have open box 7400 for $349.99!
http://www.channelmasterstore.com/Se...asp?Search=DVR

They also have a overpriced open box 7000, for $329. May just as well spend the additional $20 and get the open box 7400.

Good lord, I wish I posted the link from the e-mail earlier. now it says out of stock. What the heck is going on over at CM?
I saw via the other post (above) they have an open box. I am glad you saw it as "In Stock" so you all know I am not nuts. I even clicked to buy it and it took me to "Check Out"
Whoever was changing around the website must have made an error of course, it was weird though, I got an e-mail saying it was in stock. Oops, they just put up "Sorry" the 7000 pal is out of stock but now I can not repeat seeing the "Sorry" its out of stock, in a matter of minutes later. Maybe another goof, why would they put the 7000 pal is out of stock if its discontinued ... got a feeling someone is messing up over there.

They may have found half a dozen units tucked in a closet somewhere that they want to dump.

I got the "in stock" email for CM7000, too, but I didn't miss a thing, if it was open box for 10% more than what what I paid for it new. That's about the fourth time they put back the "see the magic" ad, but I think the magic is gone...

Open box available now on channelmaster site $329 oooh price dropping I put in 3 as the qty just for the heck of it shopping cart didn't freak out as "only one available"

of course I ain't buying 3 of these but i would buy the 7000pal if the open box was around $250

They need to drop the price on the 7400 just a little bit too to bait me to finally buy it

I like your phrasing "bait". Please don't be like a fish on a hook. But, at $200 I might buy one myself. It's a sunny day and I'm feeling good.

It serves well for CM's rep that the CM-7000, an OTA HD non-DVR for analog TV's still generates interest.

EDIT -- On 2nd look I see there's big differences between the 7000 and the 7000PAL. It also looks like there's little reason to upgrade from a 7000PAL to a 7400 unless one needs to tune QAM Channels from a CableTV provider.

Still, good to see them getting some drool-worthy attention for their older DVR.

To tell you the truth, I'm tempted to upgrade to the 7400 for the premium guide service. My 7000PAL works great but only two channels (ABC and My Network) give me the full week of TVGOS data, all the others only give about eight hours of PSIP data. I also wouldn't mind another device to stream Vudu.

Thank you so much, I never win anything!

I bit the bullet and bought the premium guide. It took a little while to finally populate, but when it did, it looks better. Now I don't have to worry about turning the 7400 on each morning so that the PSIP updates. I missed doing that a couple of days and didn't get my recording, so that's why I went ahead with it. But now I also get the benefit of whether a program is a rerun or not. Is it worth about 96 cents a week? Yeah, probably.

Just a reminder for others interested in the premium guide, that I am only using the 7400 for OTA.

Thank you very much for the info on the guide and that you are ota

Thanks for the update PCNETWRX ... kind of funny, I just logged into here because, for the first time that we know of, we had a hic-cup with the 7400 like you described in the past. At 7:30 PM our ABC network was not updated and we were wondering if we did have something scheduled to record this evening if we would have missed it. I think we would have. The ABC schedule was blank until I clicked on the channel and viewed it, then went back to the free "schedule" and it was updated. I will keep an eye on it and same here, if its important to us I will get the premium guide. I am unsure if we ever missed anything or not, my wife THINKS maybe we did but we can not say for sure.
Anyway, would be great to get feedback from you on how reliable the premium guide is in the future. We are OTA only and loving it! We LOVE not paying for TV and want nothing more from our TV then the major networks. Its great! Everything else we do is movies via streaming and BluRay.

As we were transitioning away from the endless poor-service lying-phone-rep overpriced DVR BS from Cox, at one point I made a list of all the HD channels this 7400 could tune via the basic cable signal, and a list of all the analog channels our ReplayTV could tune, and a list of all the analog & HD channels the TV could tune.

And as we were juggling what shows to record on which DVR while deciding whether or not to keep the 7400, we made a list, Sunday thru Saturday, of all the recurring shows we like to record and/or watch, so that no matter which devices we ended up with, we could quickly load all the recurring stuff aboard the appropriate DVR's.


Like JoeKustra (and surely others) have found, turns out that with TitanTV and a few text file lists of channels and favorite shows, PPG's aren't as important toward achieving BS-Free TV Nirvana as we first thought.

Convenient yes, but essential, no.


14 cents a day -- affordable for quick foxes and even lazy brown dogs.

Not a universal sentiment. Depends on whether you want to make a career out of maintaining the DVR or would rather just set it and forget it and spend your time enjoying the recordings. I much prefer the latter, a product of guide-based recording.

I agree. But I am still at the "trust but verify" condition. I started testing Jon Stewart, then Jay Leno, then added Jimmy Fallon. (I'm speaking "T" here) So no problems with TDS, the guide skipping Friday. Only bug was recording a rerun of Jummy Fallon. If the name based recording errs on the side of recording I feel better.

Any guide is only as good as the data sent to the DVR. I would like to set it and forget it too. I'm still amazed at the way any guide for any product can be so accurate. There's a lot of zipcodes in this country. I can't imagine trying to maintain all that data. Even my little borough with 4000 subs has two possible lineups coming from the headend with TVGOS. The 7400 guide also asked me to choose a lineup, so it knows also.

Yours is not a universal sentiment, either. I have two DVR PALs and a new CM7000 on the way. I have spent zero time maintaining the two PALs other than the DST issues twice a year. I don't view those few minutes to manage the timers as a "career" nor do I look upon a DVR as a life experience as one poster here has suggested.

It's different strokes for different folks. I simply don't watch that much TV and don't need more than what Dish and CM have offered. These OTA DVRs work fine for me, and I presume the 7400 would as well.

I am curious if you have multiple DVRs in the same room? Is there a way to set the remotes so they activate each separately? I am talking if you have two of the same brand/model like both DVRPals or even if you have the CM7000Pal in the same room since it is also the same unit. Thanks.:

The PALS can set up to I believe 10 different channels for the remote. So I guess you could have 10 in the same room.

Do you know how the channel change is done? I have a 7000Pal unit and I can not remember ever seeing a way to change the remote channel either on the control or the machine in any of the menu options. Thanks again

I never said it was.

Why not switch to relevant thread ?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1099071

That's an informative thread like so many on this site, but I'll continue to hope AVSForum Moderators will allow at least brief diversions through slightly off-topic posts, especially when they pertain to the devices or brands under discussion.

Odd holes in the continuity of a thread tend to darken the overall picture, when what we're ultimately trying to do here is shed light.

I have the two in different parts of the house, but they are on the same master IR circuit. I presume I set the remotes to different channels as suggested by dvdchance. (It was a while ago.)

I have a DTVPal that has several bugs that caused me to buy a DirecTV AM21, but I'm rethinking the monthly fees now that my contract is up. Can anyone tell me if these bugs are fixed in the 7400?

1) DST mucks timers. Random timer deletions and additions for a week prior to and after DST.
2) 31-second freeze/glitch on ABC channel. Documented bug in the DTVPal, and a few year's efforts have failed to get it fixed at my local station.

One thing I like about the DTVPal is how responsive it is. Can anyone compare the response of the 7400? I've read complaints about long delays after remote key presses. Is this common?

The 7400 is a totally new and different box, not an updated DTVPal.

Oh yeah, you definitely can swap larger hard drives into the 7400!




Results of swapping in a Seagate 1.5tb ST1500LM003, that was commandeered out of a Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex.

However, unless you don't want to put the top cover back on the 7400, you can totally forget adding the Channelmaster heat sink from the original Seagate 320gb hard drive to the Seagate 1.5tb. The 1.5tb drive is about 3 time thicker than the original drive, and the heat sink on that just touches the top cover. No way will it work on the 1.5tb drive, while still being able to put the top cover back on.

Following someone steps ? see post#1007