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Originally Posted by FilmMixer 
I've owned he 4311 (which mastermaybe bought front me, btw ) and currently have a 5009.
In every way that counts, the Onkyo bests the Denon IMO.
I've never been as happy with how the films I've mixed sound in my home.
In addition he video processing is fantastic. While the 4311 and 5009 seem equivalent in terms of SD up coversion, the HD processing is amazing on the Onkyo.
While I can agree that Onkyo is late to the party on 11.2, the point no one else brings up is there arent any other manufacturers jumping on the bandwagon either. Regardless of price.
On a side note, I was permanently banned from a thread for behavior far more civilized and level headed that what's going in over here.
Everyone should take a deep breath and act like good citizens in this place we are all guests in.
Just ny. 02.

I've owned he 4311 (which mastermaybe bought front me, btw ) and currently have a 5009.
In every way that counts, the Onkyo bests the Denon IMO.
I've never been as happy with how the films I've mixed sound in my home.
In addition he video processing is fantastic. While the 4311 and 5009 seem equivalent in terms of SD up coversion, the HD processing is amazing on the Onkyo.
While I can agree that Onkyo is late to the party on 11.2, the point no one else brings up is there arent any other manufacturers jumping on the bandwagon either. Regardless of price.
On a side note, I was permanently banned from a thread for behavior far more civilized and level headed that what's going in over here.
Everyone should take a deep breath and act like good citizens in this place we are all guests in.
Just ny. 02.
I have already admitted to my own over-zealous behavior and I'll apologize now: sorry all.
It was just frustrating to me because- just as F-mixer has said- the Onkyo/Integra likely meets or exceeds the 4311 in the vast majority of "meat and potato" categories. It was just the combination of no 11 channels and the no digital outs to the zones that did me in...I use a new apple tv to stream spotify from my ipad/iphone: there are NO analog outs on it so I really am SOL to my deck and second room without a goofy workaround- at best.
In any app not requiring those 2 traits, I'd take the Integra in a heartbeat.
Again, here's to hoping it'll be upgrade city this fall to the 80.4.
Enjoy your prepros.
James



























