Integra DHC-80.3 - Page 96

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Originally Posted by YES90125 

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Why can't I select from all the listening modes when playing a BR.DVD? For example I can't select DTS or Dolby Listening Modes from the remote or processor even though the BR disk sound selection is set to DTS-HD- High Resolution audio . I have a 5.1 system but I should be able to select different Dolby and DTS listening modes. The best I can get is the Onkyo DSP listeng modes and Direct, Stereo Mono and Multichannel modes on page 39 of the mannual but can't access the modes listed on pages 40 and 41 of the manual!

My old Sony receiver used to automatically decode the listening mode to the source options. Is there a way to have the 80.3 decode whats on the BlueRay disk and just play it? If the audio option selected on the disk was DTS-HD it would play in the mode, unless I changed it manually.

Specifically, which DSP modes do you want to get but can't?

Also, I don't understand what this means: "If the audio option selected on the disk was DTS-HD it would play in the mode, unless I changed it manually."

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Originally Posted by YES90125 


Yes, i guess that is my concern and complaint. The display does not show all direct listening modes available when switching or when using the the select buttons for listening modes-- Movies/TV - Music - Game, The display appartently decodes the source and simply displays "Direct" "Stereo" "Mono" or "Multichannel" For example, when puting in the concert blue ray video RUSH- Snakes & Arrows the audio options on the disk allow for PCM Stereo or DTS-HD, If I chose DTS-HD, the 80.3 Processor doesn't show DTS-HD on the dispaly screen or anywhere else, it simply displays the listening mode as "Multichannel" I guess I am to assume that it correctly is decoding in DTS-HD correct?

If it says multichannel, there is a great likelihood that the Integra isn't decoding it at all but that it is being decoded in the player/source.  How are they connected?  How is the player/source set up?

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Originally Posted by cwt 

Recalling my old onkyo Yes the 80.3 most probably does the same ie switch automatically to the dsp mode given a specific dts/dd/lpcm input .This s&v review bit clarifies ; no direct keys ;multifunction ones instead Look for ''listening mode presets'' or similar in the menus ; its in there somewhere mate

Yes, i guess that is my concern and complaint. The display does not show all direct listening modes available when switching or when using the the select buttons for listening modes-- Movies/TV - Music - Game, The display appartently decodes the source and simply displays "Direct" "Stereo" "Mono" or "Multichannel" For example, when puting in the concert blue ray video RUSH- Snakes & Arrows the audio options on the disk allow for PCM Stereo or DTS-HD, If I chose DTS-HD, the 80.3 Processor doesn't show DTS-HD on the dispaly screen or anywhere else, it simply displays the listening mode as "Multichannel" I guess I am to assume that it correctly is decoding in DTS-HD correct?

I guess that by setting the Listening Mode Presets in the Set-Up Menu to "Straight Decode" for the source is the best option to correctly decode what is selected from the audio options from a Blue Ray Disk correct?

I think you are getting confused with various things here. The unit will show all the available listening modes when you cycle through. Availability of listening modes depends on various factors - there is a list of these in your 80.3 manual.  For example, some modes are unavailable depending on your speaker configuration - check the list for details.

Next up - If you select a DTS-HD MA disc and your 80.3 displays 'Multichannel' then you have set your source to do the decoding and it has already been decoded by the time the 80.3 gets it, hence the display. Go into your BD player menus and set the Audio to 'Bitstream Out'. If you send the bitstream out then your 80.3 will decode it and you will see DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD etc light up on or 80.3 display. It makes no difference where you decode it so you are not doing it wrong - but if you want the reassurance of seeing the correct lights on your display then send it bitstream.

Third, Listening Mode presets don't have any effect on the codec used. They are there so that you can set a listening mode (DSP) - eg Dolby PLIIx - when the unit detects an incoming type of signal. For example, if you have a 5.1 system and you always want any source in two channel stereo (2.0) upmixed to all your speakers, then set PLIIx next to Two Channel Stereo in the Listening Mode Preset and every time your unit detects a 2.0 source it will automatically upmix it to 5.1. In my system, for example, I use Height speakers in a 7.2 configuration and mine is set so that Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, Dolby Digital and DTS always use the Height speakers - so my listening mode preset for those source signals is set to PLIIz Height for each one. It saves you having to select a DSP mode manually each time that's all.

If you set Straight Decode as the Listening Mode Preset then that is what you get - when the unit detects the source signal it outputs exactly that, with no DSP applied.

Does this make things more (or less) clear?  I'd suggest you a) read the list of DSPs in the manual and check their availability there for different circumstances, b) set the BD player to Bitstream Out and c) set the Listening Mode Presets to however you like them in accordance with the advice above. If you still have questions after doing all that, then come back and ask again.

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My more substantial complaints concern the paucity of direct-access controls via either remote or front panel. For example, you select surround modes via keys labeled Movie/TV, Music, Game, and THX, each of which steps through the programs that Integra considers relevant to those genres. But this still means that if you want, say, simple stereo, you may have to step through as many as eight other modes using the Music key; there’s no Stereo key per se, nor one for DPLII, Direct, or any other single mode. You can, of course, set up the default listening mode to be recalled with each input on the Integra’s main menu

Use the HOME menu button and select the DSPs there - you can choose the one you want without having to go through all the others to get to it. It would be impossible for Integra to have every DSP on a direct-access button - there are too many. You can program a universal remote to each DSP though if you wish if you get the list of Hex codes.

The above is why Integra have provided the Listening Mode Preset option - so you can select your favourite DSP for any signal type automatically - see my earlier post.

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Originally Posted by cwt 

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Originally Posted by YES90125 

Set -Up Technical ?
Why can't I select from all the listening modes when playing a BR.DVD? For example I can't select DTS or Dolby Listening Modes from the remote or processor even though the BR disk sound selection is set to DTS-HD- High Resolution audio . I have a 5.1 system but I should be able to select different Dolby and DTS listening modes. The best I can get is the Onkyo DSP listeng modes and Direct, Stereo Mono and Multichannel modes on page 39 of the mannual but can't access the modes listed on pages 40 and 41 of the manual!
My old Sony receiver used to automatically decode the listening mode to the source options. Is there a way to have the 80.3 decode whats on the BlueRay disk and just play it? If the audio option selected on the disk was DTS-HD it would play in the mode, unless I changed it manually.

It's clear now from re-reading this post that you are decoding in the BD player. Set it to Bitstream Out and most of your issues will vanish.

Your BD player is connected to the 80.3 with an HDMI cable, right?

EDIT: just seen your reply to Kal. Has this sorted things for you? Can you now get the DSPs you want?  Are you clear now on what Listening Mode Preset does?