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post #3271 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Manchild View Post

I feel crazy even asking this knowing that the source came from a Magnolia HT employee, but better to be safe than sorry.
The Magnolia HT employee commented that for any of their high-end installations they always run video sources straight to the display and audio only to the receiver/pre/pro (thus requiring sources to have multiple HDMI outputs) due to the video processors in these devices lifting black levels.
Any truth to this? I presume not, but figured I'd ask the people here that may have this unit as I'd like to utilize my forthcoming AVR/pre/pro to handle scaling, deinterlacing, and CMS (via ISFccc), but not at the expense of it lightening black levels.
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There is usually no harm in splitting the signal, and it is what you would want to do if you had better video processing in your monitor/projector or separate video processor than in the prepro. However, it gets a little complicated as far as video switching of multiple video sources is concerned, because switching is then done outside the prepro by monitor/projector or video processor and requires multiple HDMI runs to it or and possibly an audio return HDMI connection to the prepro. No big deal with a programmable remote, though. Maybe Best Buy likes it because they can then sell you some extra HDMI cables. There really is no degradation from using one HDMI cable for both audio and video, which is what gets transmitted in any case.

As it is, it's too complicated for me and of little value. Blu-ray is pass through and video processing/upscaling in my case is done by my Oppo for DVD's. The only thing the prepro upscales for me is broadcast TV, usually just from 1080i to 1080p. I would rather have the Integra do all the switching and simplify the connections and setup. Plus, the. Integra's video processing s pretty good. Getting back to Best Buy, most of what they sell is not as good as the Integra, and the monitor/projector might be better at video processing in their typical setup.

I notice also that the latest Oppos do not pass DSD from SACD on both HDMI outputs. Only the one with the inferior video processing will do it. So, that might force using the dual connection if you value DSD to the Integra, as I do. It is yet another reason for me not to upgrade to a 103.
post #3272 of 4252
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Originally Posted by fitzcaraldo215 View Post

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There is usually no harm in splitting the signal, and it is what you would want to do if you had better video processing in your monitor/projector or separate video processor than in the prepro. However, it gets a little complicated as far as video switching of multiple video sources is concerned, because switching is then done outside the prepro by monitor/projector or video processor and requires multiple HDMI runs to it or and possibly an audio return HDMI connection to the prepro. No big deal with a programmable remote, though. Maybe Best Buy likes it because they can then sell you some extra HDMI cables. There really is no degradation from using one HDMI cable for both audio and video, which is what gets transmitted in any case.
As it is, it's too complicated for me and of little value. Blu-ray is pass through and video processing/upscaling in my case is done by my Oppo for DVD's. The only thing the prepro upscales for me is broadcast TV, usually just from 1080i to 1080p. I would rather have the Integra do all the switching and simplify the connections and setup. Plus, the. Integra's video processing s pretty good. Getting back to Best Buy, most of what they sell is not as good as the Integra, and the monitor/projector might be better at video processing in their typical setup.
I notice also that the latest Oppos do not pass DSD from SACD on both HDMI outputs. Only the one with the inferior video processing will do it. So, that might force using the dual connection if you value DSD to the Integra, as I do. It is yet another reason for me not to upgrade to a 103.

This would similarly be my preference (have the pre/pro handle all the requisite switching). Similarly for me Blu-ray would be a pass-through and the video processing requirements would purely be from my STB. Also...is there a way to engage the video processor, but always have the color management system off? I personally feel like any and all video color management should be from within the display.
post #3273 of 4252
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Originally Posted by fitzcaraldo215 View Post

So, basically, the added cost of the 95 over a 93, plus the cost of the mods are going to waste in his system, because via HDMI or coax, there is no difference whatsoever between a 95 and a 93. Also, no matter how good the DACs in the 95 are, extra d-a and a-d conversions cannot possibly make the sound more accurate. Some people might prefer the sound that way, which is their right, but it makes no sense to me.

True in that it is unfortunately a waste. But my friend was using a W4S Preamp with the modded 95 before selling it. His thoughts are that after many hours of listening comparisons that Audyssey XT32 was much more beneficial in his room than using analog (w/o XT32) for music.

Bill
post #3274 of 4252
Any word if a new Integra popping up at CES next month?

I saw the new Marantz with built in ethernet switcher and 4K pass Thru(I know future proof thou) plus a third HDMI output for a second source, I was hoping Integra would add some of that.
post #3275 of 4252
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Originally Posted by OzzieP View Post

Any word if a new Integra popping up at CES next month?
I saw the new Marantz with built in ethernet switcher and 4K pass Thru(I know future proof thou) plus a third HDMI output for a second source, I was hoping Integra would add some of that.

From what I understand there will not be a DHC-80.4 this year; only refreshing the DTR series from 70.4 down (as of now). We'll know a DHC-80.4 (or equivalent) is in the works if we hear of an Onkyo Pro PR-SC5510.
post #3276 of 4252
I have an Integra DHC-80.3 processor networked to my Windows 7 64-bit desktop computer. Today, when checking Windows Update, it found an optional update labeled:

Onkyo - Network Media Device, Other hardware - Onkyo 2011 AV Device

Download size: 207 KB

You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.

Update type: Optional

Onkyo Network Media Device, Other hardware software update released in October, 2010

More information:
http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20419376

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub

Is anyone familiar with this Windows Update and whether it should be installed?

If this is a Windows driver, why is this showing up for the first time now? I have had the 80.3 networked to this computer for many months.
post #3277 of 4252
Just a bit more info. In looking at Windows Device Manager, I see the 80.3 listed as "DHC-80.3" under System Devices, with a Windows driver showing in its Properties.

The 80.3 is also listed as "Digital Media Device", also with a Windows driver, under Digital Media Devices.
post #3278 of 4252
Is it just me, or does everyone's center temp level reset to -3 db when starting up?

I change it to 0 db, but every time I power cycle, its -3db again...
post #3279 of 4252
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Is it just me, or does everyone's center temp level reset to -3 db when starting up?
I change it to 0 db, but every time I power cycle, its -3db again...

I'm not sure if the 80.3 is like the Denon 4311. But if I make on the fly channel level changes it always reverts back to the level setting in the menu when powered off the back on.

Bill
post #3280 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I'm not sure if the 80.3 is like the Denon 4311. But if I make on the fly channel level changes it always reverts back to the level setting in the menu when powered off the back on.
Bill

Thanks bill, but this is a temporary level adjustment setting, not the permanent system level trims - I don't recall ever touching it, and its defaulting to -3db on startup. So much for a temp setting...

Ive got to dig out the manual...
post #3281 of 4252
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Thanks bill, but this is a temporary level adjustment setting, not the permanent system level trims - I don't recall ever touching it, and its defaulting to -3db on startup. So much for a temp setting...
Ive got to dig out the manual...

Found the issue...temp settings are saved permanently if you navigate to the speaker level settings before power down - must have done this at one point of playing around, and didn't realize this behavior. I set it to 0db, went to the levels menu, powered down, and its back at 0 when powering up.

Nonetheless, you always feel a little dopey when you have to quote yourself in a thread...
post #3282 of 4252
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Is it just me, or does everyone's center temp level reset to -3 db when starting up?

I change it to 0 db, but every time I power cycle, its -3db again...

If you want it permanently at 0dB you need to go into the Setup menu and change it there. The temp menu is odd in the way it works - some settings 'stick' and some don't. 

 

EDIT: you sorted it - good spot.

post #3283 of 4252
Well, picked up mine late last week and had it up and running in about 30 minutes Saturday morning. Didn't have a ton of time to play with it and as I'm waiting on a new amp for my subs, I didn't bother with XT32 just yet so won't comment on SQ.

Nice unit. Does get much hotter than the AV7005 it replaced! Somewhat reminiscent of the old Integra 9.8 I used to own years ago, though not quite as hot.

Need to get at the manual to see if there are any interesting setup options that weren't obvious from the menus. smile.gif
post #3284 of 4252
I have not chased the manual yet but can you turn off video processing? I have an Oppo 103 I run HDMI1 to my monitor and only use HDMI out on the 80.3 to see menus. Would like to cut out unnecessary heat and processing.
post #3285 of 4252
^ ^ to disable video processing in the 80.3 do the following:
Using the buttons on the receivers front panel press and hold both the [VCR/DVR] button and press the [return] button. the display should show VIDEO PROCESSING: SKIP

Paul
post #3286 of 4252
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

^ ^ to disable video processing in the 80.3 do the following:
Using the buttons on the receivers front panel press and hold both the [VCR/DVR] button and press the [return] button. the display should show VIDEO PROCESSING: SKIP
Paul

Thanks! Will HDMI out be off, I.e no GUI? Second, how would you undo?
post #3287 of 4252
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

Thanks! Will HDMI out be off, I.e no GUI? Second, how would you undo?

HDMI out will work as normal......GUI is untouched......repeat to undo.

Paul
post #3288 of 4252
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

HDMI out will work as normal......GUI is untouched......repeat to undo.
Paul

I actually called Integra a couple hours ago and found the same and was coming to post but you beat me to it.

Thanks again! smile.gif
post #3289 of 4252
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Is it just me, or does everyone's center temp level reset to -3 db when starting up?
I change it to 0 db, but every time I power cycle, its -3db again...

I noticed that myself last night...when using the oRemote it was exhibiting this behavior. The other issue I found yesterday is I have a PC connected to PC HDMI input. If I shutdown the PC whilst the BD/DVD HDMI (or any other) input is the active source the HDMI audio interface shuts down. Meaning if I shutdown the PC whilst watching a BluRay movie I lose audio. The only way to restore normal audio is to shutdown the DHC 80.3 and restart, allowing the HDMI to resync.

Finally can I throw a question to the forum brains trust....how do I do a factory reset? My 80.3 thinks it has 2 subwoofers connected to SW1 and SW2, but it only has a subwoofer connected to SW1. I can't access the speaker configuration GUI (it's greyed out). I am unable to do an Audyssey Pro calibration with the 80.3 in this state (because Audyssey bails out at the subwoofer level matching check).
post #3290 of 4252
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Originally Posted by gulliBELL View Post

I noticed that myself last night...when using the oRemote it was exhibiting this behavior. The other issue I found yesterday is I have a PC connected to PC HDMI input. If I shutdown the PC whilst the BD/DVD HDMI (or any other) input is the active source the HDMI audio interface shuts down. Meaning if I shutdown the PC whilst watching a BluRay movie I lose audio. The only way to restore normal audio is to shutdown the DHC 80.3 and restart, allowing the HDMI to resync.
Finally can I throw a question to the forum brains trust....how do I do a factory reset? My 80.3 thinks it has 2 subwoofers connected to SW1 and SW2, but it only has a subwoofer connected to SW1. I can't access the speaker configuration GUI (it's greyed out). I am unable to do an Audyssey Pro calibration with the 80.3 in this state (because Audyssey bails out at the subwoofer level matching check).

See my post above for the way to "save"the temp level....
post #3291 of 4252
You can also use the Onkyo Integra PC setup program to quickly make changes without a reset. Just run it from a windows pc and make sure that your processor is on your Ethernet network.
post #3292 of 4252
....I asked OnkyoUSA and they were quick to reply:
"to do a factory reset on the processor by pressing and holding the VCR/DVR button and ON/STANDBY buttons on the front panel of the unit. This should now put the receiver in CLEAR status and the unit will shutdown."
post #3293 of 4252
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Originally Posted by akbash View Post

Just wandering if any one has herd If Integra plans to bring out any new pre pros this year. I am getting close to buying the 80.3 but would hate to buy now if the newer model is just around the corner.

Marantz just got a new one out with 11.2, i would consider this for sure.
post #3294 of 4252
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Originally Posted by ed1 View Post

Just a bit more info. In looking at Windows Device Manager, I see the 80.3 listed as "DHC-80.3" under System Devices, with a Windows driver showing in its Properties.
The 80.3 is also listed as "Digital Media Device", also with a Windows driver, under Digital Media Devices.

How exactly does one hook up the 80.3 to their network? Maybe I'm not used to reading manuals smile.gif but I can't seem to figure it out even after reading it. I have the 80.3 hooked up via Cat5 to my home's Modem/router combo (a Cisco DPC3825). I also have an Amped Wireless SR10000 Range Extender which I generally use for wireless internet connectivity. I can ping/bring up the 80.3 using the 192.168.0.36 on an internet browser which brings up a page that has some Unit Information.

But how do I get my PC to identify it?
Edited by pbc - 12/23/12 at 6:37am
post #3295 of 4252
Hey guys quick question I have a 80.3 and I recently purchased a pair of Sonus Faber speakers and running them for now threw my Zone 2 for 2ch and was wondering if its ok to run my zone 2 sub out to one of my subs in the right input even though I'm using the left in for my main zone .
post #3296 of 4252
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Originally Posted by blazar View Post

Marantz just got a new one out with 11.2, i would consider this for sure.

I too have been considering a serious change in processors for a variety of reasons and the integra is the front runner and I would hate to get it and then find out the latest and greatest is coming soon.
post #3297 of 4252
I recently purchased the PR-SC5509 and can't get the auto standby to work. I've switched it on in the menu. Only sources are Directv DVR and Oppo player. No additional zones connected.

I tried turning off all components, at which point the 5509 showed "no signal." I left it this way overnight and it never went to standby.
post #3298 of 4252
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Originally Posted by wkingincharge View Post

I too have been considering a serious change in processors for a variety of reasons and the integra is the front runner and I would hate to get it and then find out the latest and greatest is coming soon.

That is not going to happen until after you actually make the purchase and any possibility of returning it it gone. It is the Law of the Universe.
post #3299 of 4252
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Originally Posted by fitzcaraldo215 View Post

That is not going to happen until after you actually make the purchase and any possibility of returning it it gone. It is the Law of the Universe.

This has always been the case with me and on the fence purchases lol!!!
post #3300 of 4252
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Originally Posted by pbc View Post

How exactly does one hook up the 80.3 to their network? Maybe I'm not used to reading manuals smile.gif but I can't seem to figure it out even after reading it. I have the 80.3 hooked up via Cat5 to my home's Modem/router combo (a Cisco DPC3825). I also have an Amped Wireless SR10000 Range Extender which I generally use for wireless internet connectivity. I can ping/bring up the 80.3 using the 192.168.0.36 on an internet browser which brings up a page that has some Unit Information.
But how do I get my PC to identify it?

Just bumping my own Question. Can't seem to get my PC to "see" the Integra DHC80.3. My router has DHCP networking as on. Network Control is enabled as is DHCP on the Integra 80.3.


Another question as well, does anyone know if there is a discrete IR code for the Audyssey - Music setting? The only one I can find is to set Audyssey to Move mode only, but would love to press a button to choose one or the other.
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