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post #3511 of 4252
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Originally Posted by pbc View Post

Quick question. Wife just called me downstairs because when she turned on the TV, there was a "No signal" indicator on the TV. The Integra is outputting sound from the sources (cable box/bluray player), but not outputting video. I've tried:

1. A Different HDMI cable to the TV
2. A different HDMI input on the TV
3. Checked to ensure that if I went straight from say the cable box into the TV via the same HDMI cable and input that it worked fine (it does)
4. Ensured the Monitor Out was set to Main and Resolution is still set to "Through"

However, I can't seem to get the Integra to actually send out video to the TV itself, period.

I'm hoping the video board isn't fried? Anything else I'm missing that I can check??

 Note: This is not a complete reset, but I have had success disconnecting the power to the unit. After a few minutes plugging it back in while holding in the
big round On/Standby button.
Good luck!

post #3512 of 4252
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Originally Posted by pbc View Post

Quick question. Wife just called me downstairs because when she turned on the TV, there was a "No signal" indicator on the TV. The Integra is outputting sound from the sources (cable box/bluray player), but not outputting video. I've tried:

1. A Different HDMI cable to the TV
2. A different HDMI input on the TV
3. Checked to ensure that if I went straight from say the cable box into the TV via the same HDMI cable and input that it worked fine (it does)
4. Ensured the Monitor Out was set to Main and Resolution is still set to "Through"

However, I can't seem to get the Integra to actually send out video to the TV itself, period.

I'm hoping the video board isn't fried? Anything else I'm missing that I can check??

I had a problem like that when doing my first menu setup recently and it was the HDMI cable and also my through setting was not enabled but I was still able to get the integra's setup menu screen to come up without issue. As mentioned already you might try doing a reset to see if it resolves the problem and hopefully its not the video board.
post #3513 of 4252
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Originally Posted by calentz View Post

 Note: This is not a complete reset, but I have had success disconnecting the power to the unit. After a few minutes plugging it back in while holding in the

big round On/Standby button.

Good luck!

Thanks....this worked like a charm!
post #3514 of 4252
Setting crossovers higher than 80hz?

It seems like most raise the crossovers to 80hz THX setting for all speakers, does anyone set higher than this, if so what are the reasons for doing so?
post #3515 of 4252
I'm sure each of us has their own reasons for increasing their crossover frequency above 80hz. All I know is that 80hz is the standard or starting point according to TXH Standards. But I have a cousin with a 7.1 setup and she used the built in Audyssey for her system calibration and the Audyssey pushed her crossover frequencies way over the 80hz levels and her system sounds amazing. Maybe it all depends on the type of speakers you have or room accoustics.

I've talked to a lot of people that make sure all there speakers are set to 80hz and have set their subwoofer to 120hz instead of 80hz. They say by setting their sub to 120hz, it adds more realism to the bass performance. But I guess it will all boil down to your hearing. I hope I was able to help you out. Good luck with everything.wink.gif
post #3516 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Cigarjohn47 View Post

I'm sure each of us has their own reasons for increasing their crossover frequency above 80hz. All I know is that 80hz is the standard or starting point according to TXH Standards. But I have a cousin with a 7.1 setup and she used the built in Audyssey for her system calibration and the Audyssey pushed her crossover frequencies way over the 80hz levels and her system sounds amazing. Maybe it all depends on the type of speakers you have or room accoustics.

I've talked to a lot of people that make sure all there speakers are set to 80hz and have set their subwoofer to 120hz instead of 80hz. They say by setting their sub to 120hz, it adds more realism to the bass performance. But I guess it will all boil down to your hearing. I hope I was able to help you out. Good luck with everything.wink.gif
On another note, I know some people don't have a subwoofer connected to their system and actually lower their crossover settings below the 80hz levels to achieve good bass.
post #3517 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Cigarjohn47 View Post

I'm sure each of us has their own reasons for increasing their crossover frequency above 80hz. All I know is that 80hz is the standard or starting point according to TXH Standards. But I have a cousin with a 7.1 setup and she used the built in Audyssey for her system calibration and the Audyssey pushed her crossover frequencies way over the 80hz levels and her system sounds amazing. Maybe it all depends on the type of speakers you have or room accoustics.

I've talked to a lot of people that make sure all there speakers are set to 80hz and have set their subwoofer to 120hz instead of 80hz. They say by setting their sub to 120hz, it adds more realism to the bass performance. But I guess it will all boil down to your hearing. I hope I was able to help you out. Good luck with everything.wink.gif

I really like the sound my 9.2 Klipsch THX speakers produce, but I do find at times the sound a bit bright. I have everything set to 80hz and the sub at 120hz but I at times feel I would like a bit more warmth to the sound. I not sure if raising all the crossovers higher than 80hz is the right thing to do to get that added warmth Im looking for?

Very interested in thoughts from others with more experience....
post #3518 of 4252
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Setting crossovers higher than 80hz?

It seems like most raise the crossovers to 80hz THX setting for all speakers, does anyone set higher than this, if so what are the reasons for doing so?

I have LCR speakers, MK Sound S150s - THX certified speakers designed to be crossed over at 80Hz. I cross them over to my dual Seaton Submersive F2s at 100Hz.

 

The reason is that, well Mark Seaton suggested I try it, and I did and the system sounds better for it. I believe it is because my subs are so immensely capable from 100Hz (or 120Hz) down, so using them this way take even more strain off my LCR set and off the amps that drive them.

 

Anyone trying a similar route will find it depends a lot on what sub they have, what mains they have and what amps they have I guess, so YMMV. 

 

Incidentally, Audyssey Pro suggested a XO of 40Hz for the mains as its first choice recommendation.

post #3519 of 4252
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigarjohn47 View Post

I'm sure each of us has their own reasons for increasing their crossover frequency above 80hz. All I know is that 80hz is the standard or starting point according to TXH Standards. But I have a cousin with a 7.1 setup and she used the built in Audyssey for her system calibration and the Audyssey pushed her crossover frequencies way over the 80hz levels and her system sounds amazing. Maybe it all depends on the type of speakers you have or room accoustics.

I've talked to a lot of people that make sure all there speakers are set to 80hz and have set their subwoofer to 120hz instead of 80hz. They say by setting their sub to 120hz, it adds more realism to the bass performance. But I guess it will all boil down to your hearing. I hope I was able to help you out. Good luck with everything.wink.gif

I really like the sound my 9.2 Klipsch THX speakers produce, but I do find at times the sound a bit bright. I have everything set to 80hz and the sub at 120hz but I at times feel I would like a bit more warmth to the sound. I not sure if raising all the crossovers higher than 80hz is the right thing to do to get that added warmth Im looking for?

Very interested in thoughts from others with more experience....

 

Why not just try it and see what you think?  It's easy, free and has no downsides to trying it.

post #3520 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Cigarjohn47 View Post

I'm sure each of us has their own reasons for increasing their crossover frequency above 80hz. All I know is that 80hz is the standard or starting point according to TXH Standards. But I have a cousin with a 7.1 setup and she used the built in Audyssey for her system calibration and the Audyssey pushed her crossover frequencies way over the 80hz levels and her system sounds amazing. Maybe it all depends on the type of speakers you have or room accoustics.

I've talked to a lot of people that make sure all there speakers are set to 80hz and have set their subwoofer to 120hz instead of 80hz. They say by setting their sub to 120hz, it adds more realism to the bass performance. But I guess it will all boil down to your hearing. I hope I was able to help you out. Good luck with everything.wink.gif

Do you mean the LPF of LFE?  That is supposed to be set at 120Hz. Take a look at this answer from the Audyssey FAQ for more info:

 

c)5.   What is the LPF of LFE and what should it be set to?

post #3521 of 4252
Cross 'em over to what sounds good to your ears. Although I have heard and read that Klipsch speakers tend to lean a bit on the forward side. Not to say yours fall in that category but just some food for thought.
post #3522 of 4252
A couple of questions re: All Channel Stereo listening mode in my 5.1 system.

When playing stereo music CD's, the 80.3 outputs in All Channel Stereo listening mode. I hear sound coming from the fronts, surrounds and center channel (single speaker). I'm not sure about the subwoofer as I don't generally turn it on for music CD's. (Maybe I should.)

I wasn't expecting to hear the center channel in this listening mode, but it is definitely playing. Is it playing a mono combination of the L and R stereo signals, or something else?

Is the subwoofer supposed to be active in this listening mode?
post #3523 of 4252
You may already know about this but just a reminder. The subwoofer crossover settings in the Integra DHC-80.3 is default to 120hz. I would make sure the subs crossover is set to 120hz. But if you decided to change the subs crossover frequency be sure to also change it in the Integra. wink.gif
post #3524 of 4252
I upped all my cross overs from 80Hz to 100Hz last night and it blew me away!!!
Ive gone from the Klipsch brighter sound to the added warmth I was looking for. I just can believe the difference it has made, its amazing, like night and day. I have a sound now thats easy on the ear and really engaging.

BTW my setup is

Integra DHC 80.3
DTA 70.1

Backstage speakers 3x ea KLC-KL7800 THX
Surround speakers 4x ea KLC-KS7502 THX
Presence speakers2x pr KLC-CDT5650C
Clarke Synthesis 2x TST429 Platinum Transducer + Monoblock 5.3 Amp
2x 12" Velodyne Subwoofers V-SCIFIC SUB
1x Velodyne V-SC1250E AMP – 1250 watt
post #3525 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Cigarjohn47 View Post

You may already know about this but just a reminder. The subwoofer crossover settings in the Integra DHC-80.3 is default to 120hz. I would make sure the subs crossover is set to 120hz. But if you decided to change the subs crossover frequency be sure to also change it in the Integra. wink.gif

 

Do you mean the LPF of LFE?  You can't crossover the sub - you crossover the mains TO the sub. Have a read of this and see if it clarifies it:

 

c)5.   What is the LPF of LFE and what should it be set to?

post #3526 of 4252
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

I have LCR speakers, MK Sound S150s - THX certified speakers designed to be crossed over at 80Hz. I cross them over to my dual Seaton Submersive F2s at 100Hz.

The reason is that, well Mark Seaton suggested I try it, and I did and the system sounds better for it. I believe it is because my subs are so immensely capable from 100Hz (or 120Hz) down, so using them this way take even more strain off my LCR set and off the amps that drive them.

Anyone trying a similar route will find it depends a lot on what sub they have, what mains they have and what amps they have I guess, so YMMV. 

Incidentally, Audyssey Pro suggested a XO of 40Hz for the mains as its first choice recommendation.

kbarnes701,

Please clarify. Audyssey suggests my L/R/C crossover at 40 hz also, but in Pro the highest crossover I can choose is 80hz for those speakers.
Is my Pro not working right, or are you changing the crossover in the 80.3 speaker set-up menu after you have uploaded the Pro Audyssey into the 80.3.??
If so, did you leave the crossover in Pro at 40hz, or did you change it to 80hz ??

Tom
post #3527 of 4252
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

I have LCR speakers, MK Sound S150s - THX certified speakers designed to be crossed over at 80Hz. I cross them over to my dual Seaton Submersive F2s at 100Hz.

The reason is that, well Mark Seaton suggested I try it, and I did and the system sounds better for it. I believe it is because my subs are so immensely capable from 100Hz (or 120Hz) down, so using them this way take even more strain off my LCR set and off the amps that drive them.

Anyone trying a similar route will find it depends a lot on what sub they have, what mains they have and what amps they have I guess, so YMMV. 

Incidentally, Audyssey Pro suggested a XO of 40Hz for the mains as its first choice recommendation.

kbarnes701,

Please clarify. Audyssey suggests my L/R/C crossover at 40 hz also, but in Pro the highest crossover I can choose is 80hz for those speakers.
Is my Pro not working right, or are you changing the crossover in the 80.3 speaker set-up menu after you have uploaded the Pro Audyssey into the 80.3.??
If so, did you leave the crossover in Pro at 40hz, or did you change it to 80hz ??

Tom

 

Hi Tom,

 

Audyssey Pro never suggests 100Hz for my FR and FL speakers. IIRC the highest XO it has ever suggested is 80Hz, out of a choice of several. The first choice is always 40Hz.  I have also observed that each time I run Pro it can suggest a different set of XOs but this may be due to small differences in mic placement.

 

Because I want to use a 100Hz XO for my mains, I select the 80Hz choice in Pro and then let Pro create the filters.  I then upload the calibration to my Onkyo 5509 (same as the Integra 80.3). Then, in the AVP setup menus, I manually change the FL and FR from the recommended 80Hz to 100Hz. I realise this is not 'text book' procedure, but it seems to have no downside that I can detect. There is discussion on the Audyssey Pro thread about how much difference Pro makes with the calculation of the filters after the XO selection has been made, as opposed to the simpler way XT32 does it. All I can say is that I much prefer the sound when I am using a 100Hz XO to my dual Submersives than when I am using 80Hz. I want my exceptionally capable subs to handle as much of the FR as possible. Mark Seaton even suggested I try using 120Hz but, so far, I have not followed up on that.

 

HTH.

post #3528 of 4252
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Hi Tom,

Audyssey Pro never suggests 100Hz for my FR and FL speakers. IIRC the highest XO it has ever suggested is 80Hz, out of a choice of several. The first choice is always 40Hz.  I have also observed that each time I run Pro it can suggest a different set of XOs but this may be due to small differences in mic placement.

Because I want to use a 100Hz XO for my mains, I select the 80Hz choice in Pro and then let Pro create the filters.  I then upload the calibration to my Onkyo 5509 (same as the Integra 80.3). Then, in the AVP setup menus, I manually change the FL and FR from the recommended 80Hz to 100Hz. I realise this is not 'text book' procedure, but it seems to have no downside that I can detect. There is discussion on the Audyssey Pro thread about how much difference Pro makes with the calculation of the filters after the XO selection has been made, as opposed to the simpler way XT32 does it. All I can say is that I much prefer the sound when I am using a 100Hz XO to my dual Submersives than when I am using 80Hz. I want my exceptionally capable subs to handle as much of the FR as possible. Mark Seaton even suggested I try using 120Hz but, so far, I have not followed up on that.

HTH.

Thanks for the clarification.
I am using Paradigm S2's for fronts with 2 SVS SB13PLUS's in a fairly small room. I am trying to tame some HF brightness/harshness.
I will give this a try.
If it doesn't help I may visit you on the Pro thread to get suggestions on editing a custom curve to help.

Tom
post #3529 of 4252
OK, so I have had my 80.3 for a year now, and last week it started acting weird. On start up—no sound, and the display on the left that shows the channels was not lit up at all. I restarted the 80.3 and it worked fine. But then I have experienced the problem erratically for the last few days. Now, this evening nothing I do will make the sound work on any input (including the radio). It is not the amps; they check out fine. In the set up, all of the audessey settings are greyed, and so are the network and firmware update selections. The calibration tones won't even work. I know I have the latest firmware version, I updated it last week. Finally I did a factory reset, but no help.

What is my next step? Send it in for repair or is there some magic thingie I am not clever enough to know about?
post #3530 of 4252
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Originally Posted by robsugar View Post

OK, so I have had my 80.3 for a year now, and last week it started acting weird. On start up—no sound, and the display on the left that shows the channels was not lit up at all. I restarted the 80.3 and it worked fine. But then I have experienced the problem erratically for the last few days. Now, this evening nothing I do will make the sound work on any input (including the radio). It is not the amps; they check out fine. In the set up, all of the audessey settings are greyed, and so are the network and firmware update selections. The calibration tones won't even work. I know I have the latest firmware version, I updated it last week. Finally I did a factory reset, but no help.

What is my next step? Send it in for repair or is there some magic thingie I am not clever enough to know about?


Have you unplugged the power cord, wait 20-30 sec and plug back in? Also the factory reset of pressing the VCR/DVR button and ON/Standby at the same time(page 86 of the owners manual)....Some have also had success with plugging the power cord back in while holding down the On/Standby button. Hope it works.
post #3531 of 4252
You may want to call Integra support so you can have your reset attempts documented for later possible warranty. Good luck.
post #3532 of 4252
Thanks all, but the issue is the HDMI board, and I have a 80.2, not 80.3 and it seems that this is a common problem with that model. and its 5007 sister. A little more research and the info popped right up.
post #3533 of 4252
I am still in the research stage of putting together a brand new system (I left my old one attached to my previous home) since I am system-less currently.

My goal is to be near the current wave of technology for at least a few years and obtain the maximum control of my system during that time. I realize all technology has a short life so I am under no delusion that this will be my last pre/pro...I just want to be OK for a as long as I can.

That said.....

For you all that have had this unit for a while...would you buy it again if you were looking for a comparable unit today? If not, what would you buy today?

Any issues with the unit that still need to be fixed by Integra? I have read this thread but it has been a while and my senility prevents me from remembering all the issues with all the different pre/pros and receivers I have read about over the past 11 months.

I appreciate your responses.
post #3534 of 4252

Hands down one of the best "values" for the money if you can find a willing dealer (this is the toughest part).  Might also want to check the latest Denon offering (4520?) but I would definitely purchase mine again.  If you're in the US then I think the Onkyo 5509 is now available as well.

post #3535 of 4252
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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

Hands down one of the best "values" for the money if you can find a willing dealer (this is the toughest part).  Might also want to check the latest Denon offering (4520?) but I would definitely purchase mine again.  If you're in the US then I think the Onkyo 5509 is now available as well.

I disagree! Denon menu is poor and with too many layers. Integra is the champ for XT32.
post #3536 of 4252
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Originally Posted by SteveR1952 View Post

For you all that have had this unit for a while...would you buy it again if you were looking for a comparable unit today? If not, what would you buy today?

Any issues with the unit that still need to be fixed by Integra? I have read this thread but it has been a while and my senility prevents me from remembering all the issues with all the different pre/pros and receivers I have read about over the past 11 months.

I appreciate your responses.



I would buy it again. Main reason I bought it was the dual sub and dual HDMI output. It's also my first AV pre pro with audyssey and I was impressed at how easy audyssey xt32 was to set up. I'm in love with 2 ch analog direct using my modified pioneer elite pd-65 as source. Audyssey music and movie curves sound really good with multi ch music and movie soundtracks. The remote is ok, but if you have a programmable like a harmony or marantz, then even better. Good luck deciding.
post #3537 of 4252
Has anybody had their HDMI board fail on the 80.3. I know the prior models have weak caps that don't resist well to the heat. The 80.3 has a new design with two processors handling the video duties. I was hoping they also upgraded the capacitors on this model. I have a 4 year old 9.9 with this part slowly going out and want to know what to expect if I get a new one. Thank you all.
post #3538 of 4252
Thread Starter 
I would like to buy the 80.3 but have reservations based on the 80.2's reliability issues. Has the 80.3 been any better?
post #3539 of 4252

I have a DTR-80.2 and was about to buy the DHC-80.3 about a month ago but when I found out the Marantz AV8801 came out, I've been torn as to which way to go. However, seeing that the 8801 is considerably more money, the 80.3 is still a great deal. Also, I'm still in 2 minds to even purchase something yet as I'ld like to see what Integra will come up with to go against the 8801.

 

Cheers.

post #3540 of 4252
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

Hands down one of the best "values" for the money if you can find a willing dealer (this is the toughest part).  Might also want to check the latest Denon offering (4520?) but I would definitely purchase mine again.  If you're in the US then I think the Onkyo 5509 is now available as well.

I disagree! Denon menu is poor and with too many layers. Integra is the champ for XT32.

Easy tiger...I said I would still buy my 80.3 today. I was just giving the man some other options to check out since Integra doesn't appear to be launching anything new until later this year.
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