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post #3811 of 4252
Thanks for the replys guys. I actually got to listen to the new Yamaha 3030 and the 8801 today, but no Integra. I loved the Marantz, didn't love the 3030..something "thin" about the sound comparatively. The 3030 was run as preamp to the same amps as the 8801. I just wish the Integra could have been there too. I did find a dealer that's like an hour from me with one, so road trip will be in order soon
post #3812 of 4252
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Originally Posted by ChopShop1 View Post

Thanks for the replys guys. I actually got to listen to the new Yamaha 3030 and the 8801 today, but no Integra. I loved the Marantz, didn't love the 3030..something "thin" about the sound comparatively. The 3030 was run as preamp to the same amps as the 8801. I just wish the Integra could have been there too. I did find a dealer that's like an hour from me with one, so road trip will be in order soon

 

The 'thinner' sound from the Yamaha may be because it is more neutral. If Marantz are deliberately engineering their units to have a coloured sound (more 'musical') which their chief engineer says they are doing, then they could be adding 'warmth' with a mid-range boost.

 

Sighted comparisons are pretty useless TBH - the units weren't level matched to +/- 0.1dB for example I bet?  And source switching wasn't instantaneous?  And if you have to drive for an hour to hear an Integra, well there's no way on earth you will remember what the other units sound like, auditory memory being about 4 seconds an'all.

 

Chances are, with all DSP etc turned off, they all sound identical - with the only caveat being this deliberate colouration which Marantz are engineering in now. I’ll get the guy's name and post the exact quote later when I have the magazine handy.

post #3813 of 4252
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Since we're on the topic of Yamaha electronics biggrin.gif Did you know there symbol is actually tuning forks cool.gif The Yamaha logo is comprised of three tuning forks overlapping one another .

Cool , never thought about it, music is in their blood smile.gif. http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/

I guess they are musicians after all:)


1887 Torakusu Yamaha builds his first reed organ
1897 Nippon Gakki Co., Ltd. (current Yamaha Corporation) is established with capital of 100,000 yen
1900 Begins production of upright pianos
1949 Lists its shares on Tokyo Stock Exchange
1954 Establishes Yamaha Music School and holds pilot classes Produces its first HiFi player (audio product)
1955 Establishes Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. (Splits off the motorcycle division)
1958 Begins production of sports equipment Establishes first overseas subsidiary in Mexico
1959 Begins production of electronic organ
1960 Establishes Yamaha International Corporation (current Yamaha Corporation of America)
1962 Begins recreation business
1964 Begins production of lifestyle-related products
1965 Begins production of wind instruments
1966 Yamaha Music Foundation is established Expands into Europe with the founding of Yamaha Europa GmbH, in West Germany
1968 Issues shares at market price for the first time in Japan
1971 Begins production of semiconductors
1987 Changes company name to Yamaha Corporation to mark the 100th years in business
2002 Establishes Yamaha Music & Electronics (China) Co., Ltd. Establishes Yamaha Music Holding Europe GmbH (Yamaha Music Europe GmbH)
2005 Acquires Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH
2007 Establishes music entertainment business holding company
2008 Acquires L. Bösendorfer Klavierfabrik GmbH, Acquires NEXO S.A.
2010 Renews Yamaha Ginza Building, shopping area, concert hall, music studio etc. Transfers shares of the lifestyle-related products subsidiary
2010 Completes integration of Japanese piano factories to Kakegawa
2012 Completes integration of Japanese wind instrument factories to Toyooka 125th years in business (October 12th)

http://www.yamaha.com/about_yamaha/corporate/philosophy/index.html

It will be interesting to see how the CX-5000 compares to the Marantz 8801, the Integra 80.3 and othe Pre- pros
post #3814 of 4252
^^ Thats a pretty impressive History ! Yes I'd be very interested in the comparison also .
post #3815 of 4252
Amazing indeed:)
post #3816 of 4252
When playing many mp3s from my laptop using Ethernt on back of Integra and DLNA function, how do I engage screen saver so my TV doesn't get burn in?
It just sits there, playing track after track with title, time, numbers always in same spot on my TV.

thanks
post #3817 of 4252
Hey guys quick question . Sometimes for some late night viewing I have my multichannel sound setting to we're my subs are off . Does that turn off the crossover setting so my speakers are full range ? It sounds like they are but wasnt sure .
post #3818 of 4252
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Hey guys quick question . Sometimes for some late night viewing I have my multichannel sound setting to we're my subs are off . Does that turn off the crossover setting so my speakers are full range ? It sounds like they are but wasnt sure .

 

The only way to turn off the crossover setting is to go into the menus and set the speakers to Large. There is no good reason to ever do that in a properly set-up m/ch system with a subwoofer.

 

For late night listening, you can enable Dynamic Volume if you wish which will attempt to preserve the psychoacoustic perceptions of the content, but at much lower SPLs.

post #3819 of 4252
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

The only way to turn off the crossover setting is to go into the menus and set the speakers to Large. There is no good reason to ever do that in a properly set-up m/ch system with a subwoofer.

For late night listening, you can enable Dynamic Volume if you wish which will attempt to preserve the psychoacoustic perceptions of the content, but at much lower SPLs.
Thanks for the reply smile.gif
The only reason I want my subs off is at night and when I'm not watching a movie I prefer them off . With 2 subs when your not in the mood it's nice to have them off . So I just setup one of the sound settings to have them off it makes it easy . I've lowered the sub trims and turned off the dynamic EQ even tryed late night option on high and my subs still have to much Authority or presence . Now for Blu's and movies I love my subs on they blend really well and hit hard . There's just those times when I feel there not needed . My RF7s work great not even in full range with my subs off . I actually thought it might of been full range when I turned off my subs. All these years I've always left my subs on even for the news biggrin.gif but lately I've been liking them off when I'm not watching a movie or reality show with action .I must be getting old eek.gif
post #3820 of 4252
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View PostThe only way to turn off the crossover setting is to go into the menus and set the speakers to Large. There is no good reason to ever do that in a properly set-up m/ch system with a subwoofer.

 

For late night listening, you can enable Dynamic Volume if you wish which will attempt to preserve the psychoacoustic perceptions of the content, but at much lower SPLs.

Since you are the Audyssey guru, can you tell me if you compared it with other Auto EQs?  I read that Trinov in the Sherwood RS-972 runs circles around Audyssey!

post #3821 of 4252
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View PostThe only way to turn off the crossover setting is to go into the menus and set the speakers to Large. There is no good reason to ever do that in a properly set-up m/ch system with a subwoofer.

 

For late night listening, you can enable Dynamic Volume if you wish which will attempt to preserve the psychoacoustic perceptions of the content, but at much lower SPLs.

Since you are the Audyssey guru, can you tell me if you compared it with other Auto EQs?  I read that Trinov in the Sherwood RS-972 runs circles around Audyssey!

 

I had a Yamaha with YPAO years ago and Audyssey is miles better than that was IMO. Of course YPAO might work differently now. Other than that I have no experience of other automated RC systems unfortunately. I have read very good reports of Trinnov and would love to have a hands-on experience of its speaker location remapping facility. The main problem with Trinnov is that an affordable version of it is only available in the Sherwood RS-972 and, by all accounts, that unit has many major problems and issues which would deter me from ownership.

 

If you do a search on the recent posts of sdrucker, he is currently undergoing some experiments with different RC systems, including Trinnov in the Sherwood unit and it may well be worthwhile following Stuart's progress and see what his conclusions are. He is a thorough guy and he has good experience with both listening and measuring. 

post #3822 of 4252
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

The only way to turn off the crossover setting is to go into the menus and set the speakers to Large. There is no good reason to ever do that in a properly set-up m/ch system with a subwoofer.

For late night listening, you can enable Dynamic Volume if you wish which will attempt to preserve the psychoacoustic perceptions of the content, but at much lower SPLs.
Thanks for the reply smile.gif
The only reason I want my subs off is at night and when I'm not watching a movie I prefer them off . With 2 subs when your not in the mood it's nice to have them off . So I just setup one of the sound settings to have them off it makes it easy . I've lowered the sub trims and turned off the dynamic EQ even tryed late night option on high and my subs still have to much Authority or presence . Now for Blu's and movies I love my subs on they blend really well and hit hard . There's just those times when I feel there not needed . My RF7s work great not even in full range with my subs off . I actually thought it might of been full range when I turned off my subs. All these years I've always left my subs on even for the news biggrin.gif but lately I've been liking them off when I'm not watching a movie or reality show with action .I must be getting old eek.gif

 

Ah right. I mistakenly thought that you were having a problem with it!  If it's your preference to listen sometimes with the subs off, then any way of achieving that is fine of course. It is easy to check if the main speakers are using a XO or are set to Large - just go into the speaker setup menu and take a look at what the settings are, once you have enabled your sound program settings. I am fairly sure that they will still be applying the crossover previously set. If they have reasonable bass response, it might be a good idea to set them to Large to utilise that response when your subs are off. Remember that LFE content (the .1 channel) will still be sent to the subs even if the mains are set to Large, so if that is still a problem for your late night listening, then you will have to also tell the system that you have no subs (or physically switch the subs off).

post #3823 of 4252
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Ah right. I mistakenly thought that you were having a problem with it!  If it's your preference to listen sometimes with the subs off, then any way of achieving that is fine of course. It is easy to check if the main speakers are using a XO or are set to Large - just go into the speaker setup menu and take a look at what the settings are, once you have enabled your sound program settings. I am fairly sure that they will still be applying the crossover previously set. If they have reasonable bass response, it might be a good idea to set them to Large to utilise that response when your subs are off. Remember that LFE content (the .1 channel) will still be sent to the subs even if the mains are set to Large, so if that is still a problem for your late night listening, then you will have to also tell the system that you have no subs (or physically switch the subs off).
No problem it was just a user error . Thanks for the Advice and help smile.gif I will try that and see if it memorizes it with that sound setting .
Edit: I tryed changing the speakers to full range and it stays on full range no matter what the sound setting you choose . So it looks like I'd have to manually change it when I turn my subs off to have the speakers at full range .
Edited by TheFactor - 8/24/13 at 3:04pm
post #3824 of 4252
My auto hdmi switching in stand by doesn't work properly from time to time and needs to be reset. Anyway to reset the 80.3 without deleting all the audyssey measurements etc? Kills me to reset and have to wait for an opportune time to run Audyssey again.
post #3825 of 4252
You can store the settings, reset and recall them.

Confirm in the manual, but I believe it is press setup and enter at the same time (must be on the unit not the remote) hit enter to store when prompted.

Reset unit with VCR and on button

Recall by holding setup and hit return button at the same time and bit again to restore.
post #3826 of 4252
Thank yo
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Originally Posted by btinindy View Post

You can store the settings, reset and recall them.

Confirm in the manual, but I believe it is press setup and enter at the same time (must be on the unit not the remote) hit enter to store when prompted.

Reset unit with VCR and on button

Recall by holding setup and hit return button at the same time and bit again to restore.
Thank you. Will give it a try. Also will look through the manual again. Must have missed it.
post #3827 of 4252
Any rumors yet about a new 80.5 ? CEDIA is very soon!
post #3828 of 4252
I have run xt32 with all 8 positions and was really impressed with the resulting distances - very close to actual.
But for the speaker levels, i have question about below:

Page 54
Speaker Setup
Level Calibration

"The test tone is output at the standard level for THX, which is
0 dB (absolute volume setting 82). If you normally listen at
volume settings below this, be careful because the test tone will
be much louder."

For Blu Ray DTS-HD Master, I listen between 63 and 68. 70 seems loud, 75 seems WAY TOO loud.
Last night i was watching Terminator Salvation which has AWESOME soundtrack.
But at times i had to turn down.
I have Dynamic Eq and Dynamic volume turned off.

Does anyone use 82 for volume?
82 seems like it would cause ears to bleed???

thanks
Edited by bao01 - 9/3/13 at 11:23am
post #3829 of 4252
Quote:
Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

I have run xt32 with all 8 positions and was really impressed with the resulting distances - very close to actual.
But for the speaker levels, i have question about below:

Page 54
Speaker Setup
Level Calibration

"The test tone is output at the standard level for THX, which is
0 dB (absolute volume setting 82). If you normally listen at
volume settings below this, be careful because the test tone will
be much louder."

For Blu Ray DTS-HD Master, I listen between 63 and 68. 70 seems loud, 75 seems WAY TOO loud.
Last night i was watching Terminator Salvation which has AWESOME soundtrack.
But at times i had to turn down.
I have Dynamic Eq and Dynamic volume turned off.

Does anyone use 82 for volume?

thanks

 

Very few people listen at Reference level (0dB) at home. It is just too loud for most. FilmMixer, who does this for a living, says, IIRC, that he listens at about -4dB at home (DTS) and -8dB (Dolby) and this equates to what he hears in the mixing suite. I listen typically at -6dB these days and that is very loud subjectively.

 

It  doesn’t really matter what level you listen at - it is a preference thing. Some like it loud and some don't. If you engage Dynamic EQ it will compensate fore the less-than-reference levels and restore the balance to the sound. With movies, there's no real reason to turn DEQ off.

post #3830 of 4252
ok - i will turn Dyn EQ back on.
I have to say that 68 sounded pretty amazing to me - very exciting.
Thanks !!
post #3831 of 4252
Will the new INTEGRA have HDMi 2.0 usually Onkyo is the first one to adopt new features smile.gif

But we might have to wait until CES frown.gif
post #3832 of 4252
I'd look at a full year before all the new codecs that will follow HDMI 2.0 to come out before they are fully implemented into any of the new AVR's &/OR processors , with a major tech advance like this being a early adopter is Not a good idea , as any early model might not have all the features fully operational .
I've been lurking on this thread for a year now , ready to pounce on a new Processor when a new Integra showed up .

I'm now in a sit back & wait mode now as I was gonna buy the new Integra processor if & when it ht the retail shelves this year , BUT I've been burned before on early adopting when the tech changes , I have no desire to be a MFGer's Test Bunny this time around rolleyes.gif

All this is I M H O & YMMV wink.gif
post #3833 of 4252
Quote:
Originally Posted by btinindy View Post

You can store the settings, reset and recall them.

Confirm in the manual, but I believe it is press setup and enter at the same time (must be on the unit not the remote) hit enter to store when prompted.

Reset unit with VCR and on button

Recall by holding setup and hit return button at the same time and bit again to restore.

Could not find this in the manual but tried it anyways and it worked. Awesome. Thanks bt.
post #3834 of 4252
Glad it worked! I have not ever done it on my 80.3, but have done it a million times on my Onkyo TX-NR3007 and knew it was the same.
post #3835 of 4252
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Originally Posted by btinindy View Post

Glad it worked! I have not ever done it on my 80.3, but have done it a million times on my Onkyo TX-NR3007 and knew it was the same.

 

If you have a harmony remote there are discrete commands for 'store' and 'recall' so you can program the remote to do these at the touch of one button. Very useful. 

You have to ask Logitech to add them commands to your profile though.

post #3836 of 4252
New firmware for the DHC-80.3 came out on Sep 11:
http://www.integrahometheater.com/download_firmware.cfm

Looks like only one change...
Quote:
The 09/11/13 update addresses the following (all above listed models): AVAILABLE ONLY VIA USB
1. Improves picture output of 4K up-scaling
post #3837 of 4252
yes,I just wish they hadn't jumped up several hundred since the initial press release. thanksagkiBt
post #3838 of 4252
" AVAILABLE ONLY VIA USB"

will it eventually be available via net upgrade?
post #3839 of 4252
Why have the last two firmware updates for the DHC-80.3 been issued as USB only? Is there a technical reason?
post #3840 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dog View Post

The codes I posted before in this thread are outdated. This is the most current list of IR codes. I asked them for the DHC-80.3 codes but I know these codes work for other Integra and Onkyo units as well. This list is from 2012. I believe the other one floating around is from 2009 or something like that Copy of DHC80 3+PR-SC5509 IR Codes.xlsx 135k .xlsx file

Appreciate that Diamond!
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