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post #4081 of 4252
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Originally Posted by calentz View Post

I have had one incident with my 80.3. Operation was restored by "Pulling the plug" & holding in the [on / stand by] button on the processor in while restoring power. I an nervous because I went down this same path with my 80.2. It got to the point that I could not restore operation that way & I had to have the unit serviced.
you can also try powering up unit and hold vcr/dvr button and power switch at same time. however this will clear all settings and return unit to factory default. you will have to set it up again like it was.
post #4082 of 4252
I have an 80.3 on the way, hope I don't suffer this HDMI fate. eek.gif
post #4083 of 4252
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Originally Posted by wattnut View Post


you can also try powering up unit and hold vcr/dvr button and power switch at same time. however this will clear all settings and return unit to factory default. you will have to set it up again like it was.

I am aware of this. Also I guess that I was unclear with my former post. The unit that I had serviced was the 80.2 & I have not put it back into service, as my 80.3 (Formerly 80.2) is rack mounted & I also had the Audssey license transfered to the 80.3.

post #4084 of 4252
I do wish people would stop worrying about the HDMI boards..........it is NOT a wide spread issue with the 80.3. Having said that, common sense would dictate that you should have plenty of ventilation, especially on the top/back/right side of the unit . This area does get really warm.

Paul
post #4085 of 4252
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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

I do wish people would stop worrying about the HDMI boards..........it is NOT a wide spread issue with the 80.3. Having said that, common sense would dictate that you should have plenty of ventilation, especially on the top/back/right side of the unit . This area does get really warm.

Paul

 

This was exactly my point.  You only have to visit the 80.2 thread to get a feeling for what a widespread problem feels like! :eek:  One guy mentions an issue after 2 years of production and everybody jumps to conclusions... :rolleyes:

post #4086 of 4252
It is irritating that devices with a rack
Mount kit dont tolerate wide heat swings...

Of course it is pure speculation that the hdmi boards have problems due to heat or lack of ventilation...
post #4087 of 4252
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Originally Posted by AndyN View Post80.3 here with dying hdmi board.

:( what is the warranty for these 1 year or three years?

post #4088 of 4252

ON an other note Integra needs to upgrade the 80.3!

post #4089 of 4252
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ON an other note Integra needs to upgrade the 80.3!

What would they upgrade, just out of curiosity? I just ordered one. smile.gif
post #4090 of 4252
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

frown.gif what is the warranty for these 1 year or three years?
Integra is 3 years. I'm still good till November. At least I'll get to compare the 80.3 and 8801 in house.
post #4091 of 4252
Just wondering if someone knew what is the value of a used 80.3 would be?

Thanks
post #4092 of 4252
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Originally Posted by dsteak View Post

What would they upgrade, just out of curiosity? I just ordered one. smile.gif
The 80.3 is getting a little long in he tooth. It was released more than 2.5 yrs. It was pretty much completely up to date with he latest features at the time. Even 2.5 yrs later there aren't a lot of new things that it are missing. Below is a list of new features that would be needed to bring it completely up to date. Most are focused on convenience and configurability, not many would improve the listening experience.

- 11.2 pre outs, currently limited to 9.2
- hdbaseT support
- WIFI support
- multi-channel 192/24 FLAC support for DNLA streaming, currently limited to 96/24
- DSD streaming support
- Airplay
- Built in Ethernet repeater like Marantz 8801 would be cool
- 4k pass through
post #4093 of 4252
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- 4k pass through

Thought it had this, although I intend to go directly from Oppo to PJ.
post #4094 of 4252
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Originally Posted by AVGeek99 View Post

The 80.3 is getting a little long in he tooth. It was released more than 2.5 yrs. It was pretty much completely up to date with he latest features at the time. Even 2.5 yrs later there aren't a lot of new things that it are missing. Below is a list of new features that would be needed to bring it completely up to date. Most are focused on convenience and configurability, not many would improve the listening experience.

- 11.2 pre outs, currently limited to 9.2
- hdbaseT support
- WIFI support
- multi-channel 192/24 FLAC support for DNLA streaming, currently limited to 96/24
- DSD streaming support
- Airplay
- Built in Ethernet repeater like Marantz 8801 would be cool
- 4k pass through

I vote eliminate the radio and other streaming crap with the crummy interface and they can built a cheap outboard box for this stuff of higher quality. I personally also dont like the half baked and unnecessary video circuitry as i would rather have a cleaner audio signal instead of all this fluff.

I upgraded to the marantz and it is a modest improvement. The integra was already pretty decent tho... No reason to hesitate to own one, especially at used prices.
post #4095 of 4252
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Originally Posted by blazar View Post

I vote eliminate the radio and other streaming crap with the crummy interface and they can built a cheap outboard box for this stuff of higher quality. I personally also dont like the half baked and unnecessary video circuitry as i would rather have a cleaner audio signal instead of all this fluff.

I upgraded to the marantz and it is a modest improvement. The integra was already pretty decent tho... No reason to hesitate to own one, especially at used prices.

I completely agree with dumping the radio. I haven't listened to the radio in a home on a home audio system in 20 years.

I would use the streaming though. I agree that the on screen interface for the streaming functionality is atrocious, but the smartphone app is perfectly acceptable to me. I used the 80.3 to stream music until I started buying higher res stuff at HD Tracks, now I use my Oppo 93 along with the smartphone app.

I do like the convenience of having the video processor in the same box. After all, it is an AV preamp/processor.
post #4096 of 4252
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Originally Posted by dsteak View Post

Thought it had this, although I intend to go directly from Oppo to PJ.

Unfortunately no, the 80.3 does not have 4k pass through. It doesn't make any sense if you ask me. It will scale any input up to 4k, but the max input it will accept is 1080p so no 4k pass through. Go figure.

Good thing you're going straight to the pj.
post #4097 of 4252
can anyone tell me what exactly a handshake is between my 80.3 and my other components.
post #4098 of 4252
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Originally Posted by wattnut View Post

can anyone tell me what exactly a handshake is between my 80.3 and my other components.

 

Read this

 

post #4099 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Guinness77 View Post

Just wondering if someone knew what is the value of a used 80.3 would be?


Thanks

Just wondering about this, if somebody knew that would be great.
post #4100 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Guinness77 View Post

Just wondering about this, if somebody knew that would be great.
Audiogon has new software that can do that they charge a single use or a subscription
https://bluebook.audiogon.com/charges/pricing
post #4101 of 4252
Thank You!

After I looked I do not think they list it there. I will try to look around other places.

Thanks.
post #4102 of 4252
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Originally Posted by AVGeek99 View Post

The 80.3 is getting a little long in he tooth. It was released more than 2.5 yrs. It was pretty much completely up to date with he latest features at the time. Even 2.5 yrs later there aren't a lot of new things that it are missing. Below is a list of new features that would be needed to bring it completely up to date. Most are focused on convenience and configurability, not many would improve the listening experience.

- 11.2 pre outs, currently limited to 9.2
- hdbaseT support
- WIFI support
- multi-channel 192/24 FLAC support for DNLA streaming, currently limited to 96/24
- DSD streaming support
- Airplay
- Built in Ethernet repeater like Marantz 8801 would be cool
- 4k pass through

I agree in addition forget all the old connections such as component, and RGB and so on... Better audio is all we need!
post #4103 of 4252
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

I agree in addition forget all the old connections such as component, and RGB and so on... Better audio is all we need!

Better audio is right indeed. Bunch of useless nonsense they keep adding in is 100% pointless or better achieved through other means. The folks making these receivers should focus 100% on audio quality and dump everything else in an another box.

The fact that the marantz 8801 for examle needs a "pure direct" button is because the marantz people have lost their way. They are trying to be all things for all people.

Flagship prepro in this day and age without a >110-120 decibel signal to noise ratio is just simply NOT state of the art. Ess dacs have had 130+db s/n noise for quite some time now. Even the yamaha flagship threw in the ESS dac and then turned out so-so final results on measurements in the last review I read.

WHERE Is my 64bit Digital volume control?! What in the universe do i need crappy and useless video processing for? Do these folks not know this junk is already in our TV and projector? Are they doing drugs?

Every input and feature that reduces signal to noise below 130db is trash and needs to be ejected like the garbage it is. That is the multichannel preamp that I feel like paying for. It clearly does not need to cost $20000 either.

If Oppo comes out with a processor, the other manufacturers are likely going to be in serious trouble. The Oppo players clearly redefined what was possible at a reasonable price point. Oppo was also able to prove that customers WILL buy quality and products that measure really well.
post #4104 of 4252
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Originally Posted by blazar View Post

Better audio is right indeed. Bunch of useless nonsense they keep adding in is 100% pointless or better achieved through other means. The folks making these receivers should focus 100% on audio quality and dump everything else in an another box.

The fact that the marantz 8801 for examle needs a "pure direct" button is because the marantz people have lost their way. They are trying to be all things for all people.

Flagship prepro in this day and age without a >110-120 decibel signal to noise ratio is just simply NOT state of the art. Ess dacs have had 130+db s/n noise for quite some time now. Even the yamaha flagship threw in the ESS dac and then turned out so-so final results on measurements in the last review I read.

WHERE Is my 64bit Digital volume control?! What in the universe do i need crappy and useless video processing for? Do these folks not know this junk is already in our TV and projector? Are they doing drugs?

Every input and feature that reduces signal to noise below 130db is trash and needs to be ejected like the garbage it is. That is the multichannel preamp that I feel like paying for. It clearly does not need to cost $20000 either.

If Oppo comes out with a processor, the other manufacturers are likely going to be in serious trouble. The Oppo players clearly redefined what was possible at a reasonable price point. Oppo was also able to prove that customers WILL buy quality and products that measure really well.

I could not agree more I am waiting for OPPO To do just that if they include DIRAC then all would be fantastic or Room Perfect from Lyngdorf!

That's interesting

https://www.nuforce.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=290:udac-2&Itemid=1098#specifications
post #4105 of 4252
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Originally Posted by Guinness77 View Post

Just wondering if someone knew what is the value of a used 80.3 would be?

Thanks

I've seen the sell in the $2000 - $1800 range. I've got 2 friends that sold theirs for over that but I'm in Canada. When something else comes out that I want, I'll put mine up for $1800 and know it will sell quickly.
Even though it's 2.5 years old, it's still a top quality unit and other than 4K and wi-fi, it has all the features 99% of people will use.
post #4106 of 4252
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Originally Posted by blazar View Post

Better audio is right indeed. Bunch of useless nonsense they keep adding in is 100% pointless or better achieved through other means. The folks making these receivers should focus 100% on audio quality and dump everything else in an another box.

The fact that the marantz 8801 for examle needs a "pure direct" button is because the marantz people have lost their way. They are trying to be all things for all people.

Flagship prepro in this day and age without a >110-120 decibel signal to noise ratio is just simply NOT state of the art. Ess dacs have had 130+db s/n noise for quite some time now. Even the yamaha flagship threw in the ESS dac and then turned out so-so final results on measurements in the last review I read.

WHERE Is my 64bit Digital volume control?! What in the universe do i need crappy and useless video processing for? Do these folks not know this junk is already in our TV and projector? Are they doing drugs?

Every input and feature that reduces signal to noise below 130db is trash and needs to be ejected like the garbage it is. That is the multichannel preamp that I feel like paying for. It clearly does not need to cost $20000 either.

If Oppo comes out with a processor, the other manufacturers are likely going to be in serious trouble. The Oppo players clearly redefined what was possible at a reasonable price point. Oppo was also able to prove that customers WILL buy quality and products that measure really well.

I agree to a point. In a perfect world they would design what you have described but ...

The product manager has to look at customer profiles and percentages. What % of customers in the 80.3 price range have your view and what % would prefer an all in one box with video stuff. A lot of potential customers just are not as knowledgeable as your self and probably do not spend too much time on forums or doing research. They simply see a box that gets a good review with a description like "has all the bells and whistles" or "future proof" and that is all they need to hear in order to purchase at this price point. The Average Joe willing to spend US$3000 on a pre-pro may not care too much about the best DACs. So the Integra product managers have to decide on what part of the $3K population they are going after. As a product manager (i am not one), i imagine your big fear is missing the mark in terms of understanding what feature set will garner the most sales and best reviews.

But i for one am in your camp. I guess i am just saying that i can see how product managers will always play it safe rather than take a riskier road.
post #4107 of 4252
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

I agree to a point. In a perfect world they would design what you have described but ...

The product manager has to look at customer profiles and percentages. What % of customers in the 80.3 price range have your view and what % would prefer an all in one box with video stuff. A lot of potential customers just are not as knowledgeable as your self and probably do not spend too much time on forums or doing research. They simply see a box that gets a good review with a description like "has all the bells and whistles" or "future proof" and that is all they need to hear in order to purchase at this price point. The Average Joe willing to spend US$3000 on a pre-pro may not care too much about the best DACs. So the Integra product managers have to decide on what part of the $3K population they are going after. As a product manager (i am not one), i imagine your big fear is missing the mark in terms of understanding what feature set will garner the most sales and best reviews.

But i for one am in your camp. I guess i am just saying that i can see how product managers will always play it safe rather than take a riskier road.

$3000 on a pre pro I don't think is the average Joe, or Jane for that matter, at $500 yes I agree! I think that now a days many people buying in that price range will do their research.

I agree with you that predicting what the customer will want is very difficult. That's why Apple never conducted market research!

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-18438_7-10288870-82/the-decades-30-biggest-tech-flops/
post #4108 of 4252
yes - $3K price point is above Best Buy stuff etc

However, Classe, Meridian and other more "high-end" manufacturers provide pre-pros with very few bells and whistles, little video processing and EXCELLENT surround audio. However, the price point usually goes over $8K for this exceptional 5 or 7 ch audio. They know who their customers are and what they want. At the $3K level i still think you will get many who are not absolutely dead set on the very best in DACs, pre-amp design etc. They are finicky but will settle for "the best sound at this price" type of product review.
post #4109 of 4252
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

yes - $3K price point is above Best Buy stuff etc

However, Classe, Meridian and other more "high-end" manufacturers provide pre-pros with very few bells and whistles, little video processing and EXCELLENT surround audio. However, the price point usually goes over $8K for this exceptional 5 or 7 ch audio. They know who their customers are and what they want. At the $3K level i still think you will get many who are not absolutely dead set on the very best in DACs, pre-amp design etc. They are finicky but will settle for "the best sound at this price" type of product review.

And I an not saying that denon, yamaha, etc arent improving... There is nothing a theta casablanca I has over a marantz 8801.
post #4110 of 4252
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Originally Posted by AndyN View Post

Integra is 3 years. I'm still good till November. At least I'll get to compare the 80.3 and 8801 in house.

I found both acoustically both are similar with slightly better audyssey options in the 8801, the 8801 did better with handshaking 3d with my oppo bluray. The 8801 had a higher noIse floor than the integra (possibly mine is faulty). 11.2 didnt make a major difference in sound compared 9.2 (with rear speakers duplicated from surrounds to make a quasi 11.1)

The extra sub channel helps make subs easier to adjust but audyssey multi-sub management is still rudimentary.

The need to start coming out with 4 sub infependent adjustment and equilization to optimize overall response better.

Marantz airplay would NOT play ball with my airport extreme router. Some sort of networking error. So still no luck on airplay.
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