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post #751 of 3732
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Originally Posted by JlgLaw View Post

There is a lot to read here, and I'll certainly plow ahead if necessary, but there is also a lot of non-80.3 talk. Can someone briefly summarize the major issues (assuming there are any) still unresolved with the 80.3, and confirm latest firmware (again assuming it has been updated). Just want to know what to be looking for on setup.

Thank you!


Jim

Hello Jim.

I have the Onkyo 5509 which is functionally identical to the Integra 80.3 and have had no issues of any kind. You'll find the latest firmware update on their website. Some have reported problems opening the ZIP file, but in any event the best way to update is over a network connection. I have not heard of anyone having any problems with doing it that way.
post #752 of 3732
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Originally Posted by JlgLaw View Post

There is a lot to read here, and I'll certainly plow ahead if necessary, but there is also a lot of non-80.3 talk. Can someone briefly summarize the major issues (assuming there are any) still unresolved with the 80.3, and confirm latest firmware (again assuming it has been updated). Just want to know what to be looking for on setup.

Thank you!


Jim

I have the 5009... same FW as the 80.3...

No major issues, last update fw was 12/20/2011.
post #753 of 3732
the safest way to update is by USB stick not by network, as many have reported problems when doing a network update...

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Hello Jim.

I have the Onkyo 5509 which is functionally identical to the Integra 80.3 and have had no issues of any kind. You'll find the latest firmware update on their website. Some have reported problems opening the ZIP file, but in any event the best way to update is over a network connection. I have not heard of anyone having any problems with doing it that way.
post #754 of 3732
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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

the safest way to update is by USB stick not by network, as many have reported problems when doing a network update...

On the 80.3/5509?

Fair enough if so. It does of course then require that Onkyo make a version of the ZIP file that can actually be unzipped
post #755 of 3732
As I have seen people having problems with USB and network updates, maybe the safest thing is to not do any until they have the kinks worked out?
post #756 of 3732
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

As I have seen people having problems with USB and network updates, maybe the safest thing is to not do any until they have the kinks worked out?

Yes - for me that is a given. I've bricked one HD disc player doing a FW update in a 100% to the letter manner. Normally I only ever do a FW update if there is definitely a problem and I am assured the FW will fix it. No problem, no update. So I would never, as some do, update the FW for correcting something in the Chinese language version of the menus, for example (actual case). I'm a little miffed that I have to update my 5509 to get Pro to work on it, but as I definitely want Pro, I have no choice. But you can be sure that I will not be updating for at least a couple of weeks after the FW is released, and even then only after scouring the net for reported problems. Once bitten etc etc...
post #757 of 3732
It's easy to have a defective ZIP or fimware file replaced before anything happens, because the update process hasn't started yet or won't even start with a defective file, but reading through the threads of different makes (i.e. Denon, Onkyo etc.), this doesn't hold true for network updates, which relatively often left the unit non-functional in the midst of the updating process or hanging (for hours). Lucky ones have been able to restart the process afterwards, sometimes for numerous times before finally giving up.
But evaluating the individual risks and the corresponding user reports i would always prefer the local USB update for safety reasons.


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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

On the 80.3/5509?

Fair enough if so. It does of course then require that Onkyo make a version of the ZIP file that can actually be unzipped
post #758 of 3732
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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

It's easy to have a defective ZIP file repaired / replaced before anything happens, because the update process hasn't started yet or won't even start with a defective file, but reading through the threads of different makes (i.e. Denon, Onkyo etc.), this doesn't hold true for network updates, which often left the the unit non-functional in the midst of the updating process or hanging (for hours). Lucky ones might have been able to restart the process afterwards, sometimes for numerous times before finally giving up.
But evaluating the individual risks and the corresponding user reports i would always prefer the local USB update for safety reasons.

Same here. I hate farting about with networks. Can't understand why Onkyo insist on Pro kit using a network connection. What's wrong with good old USB?
post #759 of 3732
Keith, FilmMixer, and guys, thanks very much for responding. It's nice to know there are no major known issues at this point. Like the rest of you, I never update for non-essential functionality, too many potential problems playing with firmware.

Thanks again!

Jim
post #760 of 3732
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Originally Posted by JlgLaw View Post

Keith, FilmMixer, and guys, thanks very much for responding. It's nice to know there are no major known issues at this point. Like the rest of you, I never update for non-essential functionality, too many potential problems playing with firmware.

Thanks again!

Jim

It's pretty safe really. I guess I fall into a different category that everything that I own that has a firmware, will have the latest. In the last 7-8 years that firmwares have become more user friendly to update, I've yet to "brick" anything that has needed to be sent back.
Keep in mind I'm my spare time I build high end gaming PC's and deal with bios's and firmwares everyday. It's pretty safe. Some mobos will come with 2 just in case 1 fails, you have a backup ready to go.
I see more consumer stuff having this feature in the near future.
post #761 of 3732
I just asked Luke at Audyssey when the firmware update from Onkyo would be available which will make the 80.3/5509 'Pro-ready'. Here is his reply:

We are still hoping to release the support for the crop of AVRs for Onkyo/integra for last year.

We have just received the latest version of firmware and we are testing them, if they work properly we should release them by the end of the month. Just FYI, the last version of firmware we received weeks ago did not work without issues.
post #762 of 3732


Does the Integra DHC-80.3 come with the complete owners manual?
The one that is listed on the Integra site.

http://www.integrahometheater.com/own_manuals.cfm?cat=Preamplifier

Or do we have to download it and have it printed at Kinko's.

I had to do the Operator's Manual for the incoming Runco VX-11d as it does not come with the manual.

Thanks,
Terry
post #763 of 3732
kbarnes701

Thanks for the update. I just got off the phone with Audessey and you got alot more info than I did.

Thanks

ps. Does anyone know why osd is only on the main out and not the sub as well. I have a 21 led flatscreen in the rack so I dont always have to boot up projector to do stuff, but I have no osd (it is sub-out). If I make it main and use projector as sub-out than I have no osd for volume(the main reason I want it on projector). Any work arounds to this?
post #764 of 3732
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Originally Posted by tigerhonaker View Post



Does the Integra DHC-80.3 come with the complete owners manual?
The one that is listed on the Integra site.

http://www.integrahometheater.com/own_manuals.cfm?cat=Preamplifier

Or do we have to download it and have it printed at Kinko's.

I had to do the Operator's Manual for the incoming Runco VX-11d as it does not come with the manual.

Thanks,
Terry

There is one in the box.
post #765 of 3732
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

There is one in the box.

Not to beat the dead horse to death again but just want to make sure your reply is what I think it is.

The Integra DHC-80.3 has a Complete Operators Manual in the box.
(Not just a Quick Start-Up Booklet)

Thanks,
Terry
post #766 of 3732
Just read this review on the 80.3 which was overwhelmingly good but the reviewer did notice a video flaw that was suppose to be taken care of by Integra with a firmware update. Just looked at their updates and I did not see it there yet.

"In its default configuration, the Integra changed the color space’s bit depth, which in turn rolled off the video signal’s chroma resolution. I even set the video output to Through, which I thought would defeat all video processing (it does for deinterlacing and scaling), but it didn’t eliminate this issue. To fix the issue, I had to hold down the TV/VCR button on the front panel and then push the enter key until the display said, “Video Processor: Skip.” I don’t know why this is enabled by default or why there isn’t an easier way to defeat it via the standard setup menus. Integra says a firmware update may have addressed this issue by the time you read this."


Review:
http://www.hometheater.com/content/i...-701-amplifier

Integra Firmware Updates;
http://integrahometheater.com/download_firmware.cfm
post #767 of 3732
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Originally Posted by drpete12 View Post

kbarnes701

Thanks for the update. I just got off the phone with Audessey and you got alot more info than I did.

Thanks

ps. Does anyone know why osd is only on the main out and not the sub as well. I have a 21 led flatscreen in the rack so I dont always have to boot up projector to do stuff, but I have no osd (it is sub-out). If I make it main and use projector as sub-out than I have no osd for volume(the main reason I want it on projector). Any work arounds to this?

I have he same issue with an LCD flat screen and projector in the HT room. I prefer to use the LCD when listening to music and when tweaking the system settings. My 80.1 did not have this limitation and I have not been able to find a work around with the 80.3.
post #768 of 3732
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Originally Posted by tigerhonaker View Post

Not to beat the dead horse to death again but just want to make sure your reply is what I think it is.

The Integra DHC-80.3 has a Complete Operators Manual in the box.
(Not just a Quick Start-Up Booklet)

Thanks,
Terry

The answer is yes, a "full" hardcopy manual (such as it is ) is included in the box.
post #769 of 3732
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

The answer is yes, a "full" hardcopy manual (such as it is ) is included in the box.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I just got my quote and will sign the Contract tomorrow.

http://www.imboc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2203162#post2203162

Thanks again,
Terry
post #770 of 3732
For any of you guys running a standard 7.1 setup, ie surround back and surround side setup. When you do straight decode of any 5.1 DTS soundtrack does it output in 7.1? My 3009 does this and I find this very weird as asking for a straight decode should not introduce any form of matrixing and output to 5.1. Doing a straight decode of Dolby TrueHD 5.1 outputs in 5.1. It's not a big deal as I usually select NeoX or PIIx to matrix a 5.1 to 7.1 so I can have all speakers working. I've called Onkyo and apparently this is how DTS likes it to happen.
post #771 of 3732
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Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

For any of you guys running a standard 7.1 setup, ie surround back and surround side setup. When you do straight decode of any 5.1 DTS soundtrack does it output in 7.1? My 3009 does this and I find this very weird as asking for a straight decode should not introduce any form of matrixing and output to 5.1. Doing a straight decode of Dolby TrueHD 5.1 outputs in 5.1. It's not a big deal as I usually select NeoX or PIIx to matrix a 5.1 to 7.1 so I can have all speakers working. I've called Onkyo and apparently this is how DTS likes it to happen.

Mine outputs to 7.1 no matter what I codec I choose. At first i though it was strange but I'm liking it now. My Denon 4311, I have to use PIIx or something over top of what ever's being decoded to output to 7.1. I just bought 2 new monoblocks and some new speakers to go 9 channels so I'm curious if it will do the same.
post #772 of 3732
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

Mine outputs to 7.1 no matter what I codec I choose. At first i though it was strange but I'm liking it now. My Denon 4311, I have to use PIIx or something over top of what ever's being decoded to output to 7.1. I just bought 2 new monoblocks and some new speakers to go 9 channels so I'm curious if it will do the same.

You mean that if you select DD 5.1, you are getting sound out of all 7 channels?? Something not right in that case.
post #773 of 3732
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

You mean that if you select DD 5.1, you are getting sound out of all 7 channels?? Something not right in that case.

Yeah sounds like something is wrong, this should only happen for DTS sources. TrueHD 5.1 will output only to 5.1 unless I select a matrixing sound mode such as PIIx.
post #774 of 3732
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Originally Posted by nismo604 View Post

Yeah sounds like something is wrong, this should only happen for DTS sources. TrueHD 5.1 will output only to 5.1 unless I select a matrixing sound mode such as PIIx.

The next question then is, what is wrong? How can a standard 5.1 DD source be playing through 7.1 channels? What is actually coming out of the rear surrounds and from where is it being derived?
post #775 of 3732
This is a bit off the topic, but I'm trying to repaint my home theater section of the basement. Does anyone know where i can get some good ideas/ paint schemes from???
post #776 of 3732
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Originally Posted by op76 View Post

This is a bit off the topic, but I'm trying to repaint my home theater section of the basement. Does anyone know where i can get some good ideas/ paint schemes from???

I don't wish to take this Integra 80.3 off Topic like it was some Post back.
But if you will click on my signature for the HT pics. you will see what I went with for colors.
The Pics. had to be lightened up so you could see the HT gear.
But still you can in a few of the pics. get the general idea.
The Color on the Walls is a Very Deep/Dark Maroon.
The Ceiling is a Flat Black.
The Carpet is a real Dark Maroon as well.
The HT with the sconce lights out is a CAVE.

Hope this helps.

OK, guys don't be to hard on me for taking this off the Integra 80.3 Topic.

Terry
post #777 of 3732
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Originally Posted by op76 View Post

This is a bit off the topic, but I'm trying to repaint my home theater section of the basement. Does anyone know where i can get some good ideas/ paint schemes from???

I don't have these pics. posted anywhere but here they are.
This will show you more the Color I was speaking of in the above post.
Much cheaper camera but you will get the idea I think.
These will show you more the Dark Maroon Color I think.













































OK, back on Topic just trying to help a Member out .........

Terry
post #778 of 3732
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

The next question then is, what is wrong? How can a standard 5.1 DD source be playing through 7.1 channels? What is actually coming out of the rear surrounds and from where is it being derived?

Humm well this is strange, I did a factory reset and now it works as it should!. So that got me thinking, what could have possibly made the unit do that? All I've done is upgrade the firmware, ran audyssey and some other speaker settings that shouldn't have done that.
I know my denon 4311 will do some crazy crap and the micro reset always gets it back in line, which I've done 5 or 6 times now. Maybe the integra is having the same kinds of issues?
I know the denon has had, only 1 channel working, sub not working, internet radio playing on all inputs but a movie would still play over top of the radio lol and some freezes. That thing can be a pain in the butt but it's a great unit otherwise.
post #779 of 3732
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I know the denon has had, only 1 channel working, sub not working, internet radio playing on all inputs but a movie would still play over top of the radio lol and some freezes. That thing can be a pain in the butt but it's a great unit otherwise.

You mean other than only 1 channel working, the sub not working, the Internet radio playing on all inputs, a movie and the radio playing at the same time and it freezing... it was a great unit? Other than that?
post #780 of 3732
Oh that's it.
No reset after firmware update...

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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

Humm well this is strange, I did a factory reset and now it works as it should!. So that got me thinking, what could have possibly made the unit do that? All I've done is upgrade the firmware, ran audyssey and some other speaker settings that shouldn't have done that.
I know my denon 4311 will do some crazy crap and the micro reset always gets it back in line, which I've done 5 or 6 times now. Maybe the integra is having the same kinds of issues?
I know the denon has had, only 1 channel working, sub not working, internet radio playing on all inputs but a movie would still play over top of the radio lol and some freezes. That thing can be a pain in the butt but it's a great unit otherwise.
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