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TM90 - step up ring (41.5mm)

post #1 of 43
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I lost the thread that someone have bought step up ring for TM90.

May I ask here if someone had bought the step up ring for SD/TM90 and tell me where and how much did it cost?

This is pretty hard to find 41.5mm step up ring.

40, 41 and 42mm is not so difficult though.

Pana makes life so hard.

Thanks
post #2 of 43
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...All-Categories
post #3 of 43
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Hi,

the eBay does not show about the step up ring.
post #4 of 43
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Originally Posted by Alan Tse View Post

Hi,

the eBay does not show about the step up ring.

Alan,

It appears Camera Ace has stopped posting on ebay. The link was real when I posted it and i checked a day or so later and it was still active. Not sure what happened.


It appears all listings have been removed. http://stores.ebay.com/Camera-Ace-Ph...ic-Accessories

You can try contacting them and find out if you can still get step rings. They can be trusted! They went out of there way to fix step rings so that they would fit the Panny camcorders. Maybe they were overwhelmed with orders. Hard to say. I would try contacting them. Link is in the URL above.

Good luck! Why did you wait so long? Should have ordered sooner.


Ron
post #5 of 43
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

Alan,
You can try contacting them and find out if you can still get step rings. They can be trusted! They went out of there way to fix step rings so that they would fit the Panny camcorders. Maybe they were overwhelmed with orders. Hard to say. I would try contacting them. Link is in the URL above.

Good luck! Why did you wait so long? Should have ordered sooner.
Ron

I was still searching for a relatively cheaper step up ring.
I remebered it cost $24 for the step up ring? I hope can find any cheaper one.
post #6 of 43
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Originally Posted by Alan Tse View Post

I was still searching for a relatively cheaper step up ring.
I remebered it cost $24 for the step up ring? I hope can find any cheaper one.

Good luck finding them cheaper. Its an odd size...that's why they are hard to find.

Camera Ace seems to droped ebay. I did stumble on to the Camera Ace website so you could contact them and order. Happy I got mine just in time.
post #7 of 43
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Good luck finding them cheaper. Its an odd size...that's why they are hard to find.

Yes, the size is really really odd.
For common size, it just cost few bucks on eBay.
post #8 of 43
It looks like he's back again selling them. Just to clarify is it the 41.5 to 46 adapter or the 41.5 to 52mm adapter?
post #9 of 43
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Originally Posted by David Scott View Post

It looks like he's back again selling them. Just to clarify is it the 41.5 to 46 adapter or the 41.5 to 52mm adapter?

That's your call! The 46mm can cause some vignetting with a lens that has a thick ring. The Panasonic polarizer isn't too bad but its expensive. Good quality though! You do get a little bit of vignetting that can be minimized at the widest angle if you shut off image stabilization. I also have a 58mm ring and that is better but its too big to keep on all the time. The 52mm might be about the right size but I don't have it so cant say for sure.
post #10 of 43
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Originally Posted by David Scott View Post

It looks like he's back again selling them. Just to clarify is it the 41.5 to 46 adapter or the 41.5 to 52mm adapter?

$24.99
It looks NOT cheap.
post #11 of 43
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Originally Posted by Alan Tse View Post

$24.99
It looks NOT cheap.

There are no other options. Beside you spend more eating out with two people these days. Heck drinks alone is more. So you can either do without or get the ring and lens.

Also you saved money buying the SD90/TM90 over the 800 or 900 camcorders so what's the problem?
post #12 of 43
Hi guys, new here. Just received my new TM90. Will the 41.5-52 step up ring, along with a lens hood, cause any issues. Will that block the the autofocus beam, or is this unit TTL autofocus?


Also another question: When filming contnuious video fo over 30 minutes, this unit creates multiple files, because of the 4 gig limit . Any way to fuse those together, seemlessly? There is a slight "hicup", when i join them. I shoot weddings and that would be unacceptable at certian points.
post #13 of 43
Hi, just joined to share some info. I just bought the 41.5mm to 52 step up adapter and it did have some vignetting with OIS on. Only on the right corners though. It looks like the seller I bought this from made a revision to the adapter, where it now has a chamfer/angle cut into the inside edge to alleviate the vignetting problem. But it still has some vignetting.

So what I did was screw on the adapter tight and marked where the square corners of the original lens opening were. Then I took out my dremel with a long diamond attachment and grinded away between the 2 points that I marked. You have to grind away alot of material at an angle. Now I have no vignetting at all, even with stabilization on.

I use a Sigma uv lens on the adapter and with that on there is no vignetting at all. But I assume if you were to double stack lenses then you will get vignetting. If you want to have no vignetting when stacking lenses then probably the 41.5mm to 58mm is a better choice.

The one thing to note is that if you use an extra lens, then the camera flash will not work properly. Turn auto-flash off.

The seller also sells a direct attachment uv lens, but I think it's better to go with a step up adapter.

Sorry can't post links now, but seller name is below on ebay
camera1352011


Pic shows a windbreaker to stop wind noise, but it also covers the led light which I don't use anyway.
post #14 of 43
Thanks geaidi. I can do that. All I will be using is a wide angle lens hood.

On a different sugject: Has anyone figured out how to elliminate the slight "glitch", of joining 2 files together from the TM90? It is still noticable, when I just join them in my NLE. I did not see an in-camera option to do this. Both files (2 - 4 gig) are on internal memory.
post #15 of 43
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Originally Posted by KYRandy View Post

Thanks geaidi. I can do that. All I will be using is a wide angle lens hood.

On a different sugject: Has anyone figured out how to elliminate the slight "glitch", of joining 2 files together from the TM90? It is still noticable, when I just join them in my NLE. I did not see an in-camera option to do this. Both files (2 - 4 gig) are on internal memory.

I'm still a noob at this so here goes. If you are using the 52mm step up ring and use the wide angle hood only (no other lens) it may still vignette at the widest zoom. The base of a hood is very thick, see pic below and you may have to trim back the side petals. 58mm would not vignette I assume, but that 58mm adapter is so big.



Have you tried using HDwriter to join the files together. It should join smoothly with the original software, then you can use the joined video in any other editing program.
post #16 of 43
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Originally Posted by geaidi View Post

I'm still a noob at this so here goes. If you are using the 52mm step up ring and use the wide angle hood only (no other lens) it may still vignette at the widest zoom. The base of a hood is very thick, see pic below and you may have to trim back the side petals. 58mm would not vignette I assume, but that 58mm adapter is so big.



Have you tried using HDwriter to join the files together. It should join smoothly with the original software, then you can use the joined video in any other editing program.

Thanks. I use wide (rectangular) 52mm hoods with my Canon and Sony HD cameras. They are designed as not to vignette. But if they do, i will just modify them. I don't see anyone sellng a 41.5-58 or 41.5-55 adaptor?

No. I have not tried the HD writer software yet, but I will. Anyone know the exact steps to join files there?

I shot this project on 1080i, so I could use the files directly, but I also want to try the combo transfer (camera and HD writer) of 1080P files from the camcorder to hard drive, as someone else mentioned in another post. That is suppose to give better results.
post #17 of 43
http://www.ebay.com/sch/camera135201...1.c0.m14.l1514 has them but you may have to wait till they put it up for sale again or ask them. They are in India and sometimes when I ask them a question, their answers are gibberish.

Can't beat that 1080/60p especially on a big screen and motion.
post #18 of 43
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Originally Posted by geaidi View Post

http://www.ebay.com/sch/camera135201...1.c0.m14.l1514 has them but you may have to wait till they put it up for sale again or ask them. They are in India and sometimes when I ask them a question, their answers are gibberish.

Can't beat that 1080/60p especially on a big screen and motion.

Yes, the price is a rip-off for all these, as this is the only place I have found them. I have bought many step-up step-down rings for less than $5.

The pana batteries are also overpriced, unless you get one of those ones with a cord. No real generics yet.
post #19 of 43
Yeah price may seem high but they manufacture this product themselves and it's a limited market. The quality of their products is great. The step up ring was sent to me FedEx really fast from India to Hawaii.

Cheapest place for an original battery is here @ $46

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VW-V...8608698&sr=8-2
post #20 of 43
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Originally Posted by geaidi View Post

Yeah price may seem high but they manufacture this product themselves and it's a limited market. The quality of their products is great. The step up ring was sent to me FedEx really fast from India to Hawaii.

Cheapest place for an original battery is here @ $46

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VW-V...8608698&sr=8-2

Yes, I actually need the 360 battery, it's $90 or more.
post #21 of 43
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Originally Posted by KYRandy View Post

Thanks. I use wide (rectangular) 52mm hoods with my Canon and Sony HD cameras. They are designed as not to vignette. But if they do, i will just modify them.

If you do use the 52mm adapter with a hood the thick base of it may vignette with OIS on, don't know if you can grind the hood base. If you do happen to fit a hood on please post some pics later, as I never seen one with a hood before.

But you are probably a professional and probably don't use OIS. To be clear the 52mm adapter will not vignette with OIS off.
post #22 of 43
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Originally Posted by geaidi View Post

If you do use the 52mm adapter with a hood the thick base of it may vignette with OIS on, don't know if you can grind the hood base. If you do happen to fit a hood on please post some pics later, as I never seen one with a hood before.

But you are probably a professional and probably don't use OIS. To be clear the 52mm adapter will not vignette with OIS off.

My weddings are mostly on tripod,
with ois off. But I do plan on using it with a hand held stablizer handle, with ois on. I have already tried my external mics and they work great with tm90. That was one of my main reasons for purchasing the tm90, as a external mic is a necessity.

It may be a while before I put all this together, but I will post back. I have several projects that I need to finish first. Thanks for your help.
post #23 of 43
OIS on the TM90 is so good I have been leaving it turned on...even hybrid mode just because when walking while shooting its so much less jumpy with hybrid OIS on.
post #24 of 43
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

OIS on the TM90 is so good I have been leaving it turned on...even hybrid mode just because when walking while shooting its so much less jumpy with hybrid OIS on.

Yes, I agree. Much better than my canon and Sony. But you never want to use any IS on any camera or camcorder, when tripod mounted, as it actually has the opposite effect. The manual also mentions this.
post #25 of 43
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I found a step up ring of reasonable price, can someone has experience tell me if it suits:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/41-5mm-58...item336d83a129

Thanks
post #26 of 43
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Originally Posted by Alan Tse View Post

I found a step up ring of reasonable price, can someone has experience tell me if it suits:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/41-5mm-58...item336d83a129

Thanks

That is from Australia so will probably cost you $ to ship state side.

Why are you nit picking over a few dollars? We have been discussing this for a couple months now.
post #27 of 43
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That is from Australia so will probably cost you $ to ship state side.

Why are you nit picking over a few dollars? We have been discussing this for a couple months now.

Hi, I think I didn't mention I am from Australia.
That's my habbit tried to save just couple of dollars

And I hope can find a 41.5mm filter but looks not good but need a step up ring.
post #28 of 43
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Originally Posted by Alan Tse View Post

Hi, I think I didn't mention I am from Australia.
That's my habbit tried to save just couple of dollars

And I hope can find a 41.5mm filter but looks not good but need a step up ring.

Ah! OK now it makes a little more sense. this is a better deal for you.
post #29 of 43
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Ah! OK now it makes a little more sense. this is a better deal for you.

Hi,

Just want to make sure there are 2 step up rings I found:
41.5 - 46
41.5 - 58

Which one should I buy and the reason of that?

Thanks if you can shed some lights on that.
post #30 of 43
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Originally Posted by Alan Tse View Post

Hi,

Just want to make sure there are 2 step up rings I found:
41.5 - 46
41.5 - 58

Which one should I buy and the reason of that?

Thanks if you can shed some lights on that.

The 46mm ring will give you some vignetting with most lenses. Look back at the discussion for all the answers. The 58mm ring is large so the camera looks funny and the microphone is partially blocked. You may still need to grind down the inside corners or the ring to avoid vignetting even with the 58mm ring. You can minimize it by turning off OIS.
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