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Receiver and/or Amp for BIC F12

post #1 of 8
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Hey all, I've been looking all over this site and elsewhere for some advice but haven't really been able to come to some definite conclusions. As a college student, I have a decent amount of money to spend but certainly none to waste, so I don't want to buy wrong/incompatible stuff. Sorry if I've included this in the wrong forum!

Anyways, I had some Logitech Z5500s that had lasted me several years, but this past weekend they were used for a party (they really are better speakers than they are given credit for) and the sub got blown (ok, maybe not that good of speakers).

I've naturally been looking around primarily for a replacement sub and have narrowed it down to the BIC America F12 (the main other consideration was the Polk PSW505, but I've seen almost everywhere that the F12 is a better buy, tighter bass, etc.). However, my understanding is that the amps for the Z5500 satellites are built into the Z5500 sub. While I understand that they aren't even close to the greatest low-to-mid-budget satellites out there, they do still work and are already paid for. This leads to a few scenarios in my mind, both of which start with buying a BIC F12:

1) Buy a 5.1 receiver (which kind?), use the leftover Z5500 satellites for now. Any additional amp needed? This option seems preferred based on cost & reuse of working speakers (would upgrade later when more money is available).

2) Buy two nice tower/bookshelf speakers for a good 2.1 setup. Would these plug directly into the speaker out on the F12, or would I still need a receiver and/or amp?

3) Get complete 5 speaker set. Probably out of budget? I'm thinking I'd get better sound spending the money on a 2.1.

I apologize for the complete noob questions. I'm pretty tech savvy in general but haven't had any experience whatsoever with any audio stuff beyond HTIB. Total budget is around $400-$600. Obviously cheaper than that would be preferred, but I understand the importance in not skimping. I'm in an older apartment building. Hardwood floors. My bedroom (where they'd usually be set up since I do a small amount of beatmaking and production on the side) is 12'x13'. The living room where they'd be for parties is 16'x13'.

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 8
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I'm new here so I don't know the policy on bumping but.. anyone? Even just some advice for a Z5500 replacement sub?
post #3 of 8
My thoughts, I would get an inexpensive 5.1 AVR receiver,the
Bic sub you mentioned and a pair of the highly regarded Pioneer
book shelf speakers from Best Buy ($100).
This will get you going on a nice 2.1 set-up with the ability
to upgrade in the future. IE: the Pioneer floorstanders are $200
a pair. Shop around for the AVR get a clearence unit,check your local
Craigslist etc. Doesn't have to be fancy to start out with.

#2 will not work, You still need an AVR.
I also don't recommend using you Logitech speakers,might be difficult
load for an AVR.

My opinion do it right the first time,then you won't have any regrets.
post #4 of 8
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Thanks for the feedback. Newegg (through today only) has a pair of Polk Monitor 40s for $120, normally $300. That seems like such a good deal and they appear to be such good speakers that I may just go ahead and do that on impulse However, I absolutely do want to do things right the first time while still maintaining a reasonable budget. What I've read on those speakers seems to put them in the place of being "definitely sufficient for now" (and plenty affordable), and they seem that they'd go powerful enough for my needs (would be placed for parties in a 16'x13' room). Thoughts on this? I just recently stumbled across the sale price and I don't think I can do better without spending at least a hundred dollars more.
post #5 of 8
I've never been a fan of Polk speakers. Just me though.
If you spring for $80 more you could get those
Pioneer floorstanders. Either way your definately on the right
track.
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 
I went ahead and got the Polk Monitor40 pair. Reviews were solid everywhere I looked and the sale price was so low I figured they are at least worth trying out.

Now I need help: what to do about a receiver?

Newegg currently has a refurb Yamaha RX-V667 7.2-Channel receiver for about $255 shipped (list price of $380). This would obviously be overkill for my currently planned 2.1 setup, but at the same time, it seems to be superior to anything else around the $200 mark.

I want to do more looking around for the receiver. I'm having a little bit of confusion with the W/channel specifications. One of my top sub considerations, the BIC F12, is rated as 150W RMS continuous with a 475W peak. Does this mean I need or should try to find a 150W/channel receiver, or would a cheaper 80W/channel system work? Speaker power requirements in general are confusing to me and I'd like to get educated haha.

So, any help on picking a receiver for a pair of Polk Monitor40s and a BIC F12 or BIC V1220?
post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by andrewmc View Post

I went ahead and got the Polk Monitor40 pair. Reviews were solid everywhere I looked and the sale price was so low I figured they are at least worth trying out.

Now I need help: what to do about a receiver?

Newegg currently has a refurb Yamaha RX-V667 7.2-Channel receiver for about $255 shipped (list price of $380). This would obviously be overkill for my currently planned 2.1 setup, but at the same time, it seems to be superior to anything else around the $200 mark.

I want to do more looking around for the receiver. I'm having a little bit of confusion with the W/channel specifications. One of my top sub considerations, the BIC F12, is rated as 150W RMS continuous with a 475W peak. Does this mean I need or should try to find a 150W/channel receiver, or would a cheaper 80W/channel system work? Speaker power requirements in general are confusing to me and I'd like to get educated haha.

So, any help on picking a receiver for a pair of Polk Monitor40s and a BIC F12 or BIC V1220?

Your sub has a totally independent amplifier. There is no relationship between the sub's amplifier and the receiver you choose. If the receiver has a sub out (and any AVR will) then you will be fine.

The Yamaha you mentioned seems like a good deal, and is often recommended here.
post #8 of 8
I own both an F12 and the Pioneer floorstanders (FS51) as well as the matching bookshelves (BS41). If you are looking at starting a system with a 2.1 set up you won't be disappointed with either of those speaker pairs and an F12. As far as a receiver's I would look at something from last year's offering as long as stuff like Airplay is not important to you. I personally stick with Pioneer (VSX-1020) receivers but many makes from Yamaha, Denon (AVR-1912 ) and Onkyo (TX-NR609 ) also come highly recommended in the midrange. Like was said previously your Sub will have its own Power supply and Amp so your receiver will not contribute to its performance
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