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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Multiple seasons (3?) of Breaking Bad are available on Netflix streaming.

I don't do Netflix, but I was able to buy the first 3 seasons on DVD for $55.
post #152 of 331
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

I don't do Netflix, but I was able to buy the first 3 seasons on DVD for $55.

They are available in HD streaming (at least better than DVD) for $7.99 a month... not a bad deal.
post #153 of 331
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This brings us up to the point of the series premiere where the Grayson son is killed on the beach @ the Engagement Party for him & Emily .

I don't remember him being dead - just shot.
post #154 of 331
Real Amanda's revenge plans are spiraling beyond her control.
We could have been "misled" on who was shot.
My money is on Faux Amanda a.k.a. "The Stripper"* as the shooter. She has already murdered one person the late chief of Grayson Security, Frank.

* We need to see a long, detailed Hi-Def flashback covering her previous job.
post #155 of 331
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I don't remember him being dead - just shot.

Yeah, the first episode gave the impression that he was dead, but I'm gonna bet on just severely wounded.

As for who the shooter is, it's either Jack or faux-Amanda.
post #156 of 331
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

As for who the shooter is, it's either Jack or faux-Amanda.

...or the dog, he seems emotionally troubled over Emily.
post #157 of 331
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

...or the dog, he seems emotionally troubled over Emily.



...or maybe psychotic Tyler is back... and off his meds...and seeking REVENGE!
post #158 of 331
This is SUCH a great show!
I have an idea for an ABC spinoff. Do a remake but set it back in a historical milleu. Change a few things say like make the protagonist male. Have him wronged by several powerful figures and sent to prison, incarcerated like Amanda. After years of prison he escapes, finds wealth, comes back under a new identity and wreaks revenge on his tormentors. Sounds like an instant classic to me.
post #159 of 331
Sounds like they've been keeping the outcome semi-open and have been playing it somewhat by ear based on audience reaction. The only thing I think for sure is that whoever it is that got shot, actually is dead. Beyond that, who knows...


Ashley Madekwe (Asheley Davenport) on whether she was surprised who the victim turns out to be in an E Online interview:

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"By the time we found out, no, but in the beginning right up until episode 12 or 13, we were kept in the dark," Madekwe tells us. "I think Mike [Kelley], the creator of the show, he didn't know. He kept changing his mind. We're about to show episode 15 and we've only just read episode 17, so we're that close. We're reacting literally to what the audience likes and does not like."
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Of the episode, Madekwe couldn't reveal much, but she teases, "It goes all the way back to the beginning with the Fire and Ice party and it's really cool because I thought that we were going to use footage that we had already shown, but we re-shot the whole Fire and Ice party. You see the whole thing from a different perspective and what you think was going on wasn't going on."

http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_wi...#ixzz1m6NZxhGM


ron
post #160 of 331
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Originally Posted by R11 View Post

Sounds like they've been keeping the outcome semi-open and have been playing it somewhat by ear based on audience reaction. The only thing I think for sure is that whoever it is that got shot, actually is dead. Beyond that, who knows...ron

I read on another site that is was to be the Grayson son who was killed when the show 1st aired, as was the pitch for the pilot that it would the son .
BUT now that the show is a big Hit , that is now off the table as they now need to let the various plot arcs widen, Plus the fact the the Son's character is now very popular with viewers ,they might have to choose a different out come for Daniel .
post #161 of 331
I don't know who was killed but as long as they don't pull utter crap like AMC's Who Killed Rosie Larsen I'm good.
post #162 of 331
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...or maybe psychotic Tyler is back... and off his meds...and seeking REVENGE!

Well, I was *partly* right!
post #163 of 331
Show is going full frontal soap.
post #164 of 331
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

Show is going full frontal soap.

They really didn't have a choice-
The writers backed themselves into a corner in the pilot episode by killing Daniel in the first scene. Now that the show's a hit and Daniel's a 'good guy' and popular with the fans- they need him to live. Everyone hated Tyler- so it's the easy route to pin it on him... and Daniel survives... which creates even more drama!

Wonder how long it took the writers to come up with the new scenario?
post #165 of 331
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Wonder how long it took the writers to come up with the new scenario?

I read (while waiting for my auto) they were going to film several versions to a large extent to keep it secret. Also, it would allow them to go wherever they decided...

I'm not sure how it played out for me. I probably was expecting too much and at the same time I'm not a soap fan per se so it got a little wild and crazy. However, I understand it was a tidal wave moment and if they calm it down a bit I'm sure I'll still ride along. They will be leaving the Hamptons now that summer is over and that alone should alter the dynamics quite a bit.
post #166 of 331
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

..... I'm not a soap fan per se so it got a little wild and crazy. However, I understand it was a tidal wave moment and if they calm it down a bit I'm sure I'll still ride along.

Pretty much feel the same way- while I feel a bit 'cheated' by the way they handled it- I'm happy Daniel won't be written off the show any time soon.

If the fans are complaining about the revised outcome of the pilot episode- imagine the outcry if Daniel actually died and we never saw him again. He's one of the few likable characters on the show. Now if they could just somehow get Jack's little brother written off....
post #167 of 331
I am pretty disappointed that the producers wussed out and let Daniel live. It would have made the second season much more interesting in my opinion.

Hopefully, they can pull back on some of the madness and pace the show properly for that long haul.
post #168 of 331
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Originally Posted by gameboy View Post

It would have made the second season much more interesting in my opinion.

I disagree. For me the dynamics of the show is who Emily will end up with... Daniel or Jack. Everything else only matters because it influences the outcome. The revenge aspect is handled rather sophomoric and outside of besting Victoria it seems all too easy.
post #169 of 331
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

They really didn't have a choice-
The writers backed themselves into a corner in the pilot episode by killing Daniel in the first scene. Now that the show's a hit and Daniel's a 'good guy' and popular with the fans- they need him to live. Everyone hated Tyler- so it's the easy route to pin it on him... and Daniel survives... which creates even more drama!

Wonder how long it took the writers to come up with the new scenario?

According to what I read about it, the writers never actually showed who died in the pilot. (I haven't seen it since it first aired, so I haven't been able to go back to confirm this.) They said that they strongly implied it, but never confirmed who had died.

Anyone know exactly how Emily's mentor got the box? It seems, he just showed up with it at the party. What's he gong to do with Amanda2 I wonder?
post #170 of 331
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Anyone know exactly how Emily's mentor got the box? It seems, he just showed up with it at the party. What's he gong to do with Amanda2 I wonder?

That's a good question isn't it? That guy came out of the episode last night with a lot more intrigue..


ron
post #171 of 331
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

According to what I read about it, the writers never actually showed who died in the pilot. (I haven't seen it since it first aired, so I haven't been able to go back to confirm this.) They said that they strongly implied it, but never confirmed who had died.

I think this is the original scene here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHKvB...eature=related

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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

Anyone know exactly how Emily's mentor got the box? It seems, he just showed up with it at the party. What's he gong to do with Amanda2 I wonder?

I wonder if that Asian guy smells blood in the water at Greyson Global and is going to try and take over the company. He didn't even tell Emily that he was back in town, obviously working on his own interests and not just hers.
post #172 of 331
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

He didn't even tell Emily that he was back in town, obviously working on his own interests and not just hers.

Earlier on didn't he tell Emily she was now on her own? I see him as a Guardian Angel/storyline wizard... one who can save her/fix things when the writers can't. Now he would be a great match for her to go up against... but I don't think it would last long.
post #173 of 331
The original scene certainly wants you to believe it's Daniel w/o actually showing you that it is.
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Originally Posted by 73shark View Post

The original scene certainly wants you to believe it's Daniel w/o actually showing you that it is.

That much, without a doubt, is undeniable.
post #175 of 331
So now we're left to assume that Daniel killed Tyler?
post #176 of 331
Won't be back for this crap !! Daniel is by far the most boring and stupid character on the show and he lives GIMME A BREAK !! He is a freaking total IDIOT and I'm very disappointed TPTB kept him on since in tne pilot it was clearly etabled Daniel died and I don't care how much TPTB start backtracking to try whitwashing it either ..
Not interested watching idiot Daniel in a contrived court battle nor am I interested in watching a series which had tremendous potential suddenly jumping the shark and becoming riculous and pathetic ..
Not suprised Revenge lost viewers and ABC can't be happy with 2.2 demos either ..
post #177 of 331
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So now we're left to assume that Daniel killed Tyler?

Why assume that? Looks to me that stripper Amanda killed Tyler on her way to Canada to cash in the $5M check. Unfortunately she accepted a ride from the wrong person...
post #178 of 331
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

According to what I read about it, the writers never actually showed who died in the pilot. (I haven't seen it since it first aired, so I haven't been able to go back to confirm this.) They said that they strongly implied it, but never confirmed who had died.

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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

I think this is the original scene here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHKvB...eature=related


Wow, I was all ready to come on here and rip the writers for lazy writing. I was almost positive that they showed Daniel's face in the pilot when he got shot, but I guess they spun it just enough to make the viewers believe what they wanted you to believe.
post #179 of 331
I thought it was possibly the Japanese Sensei who killed Tyler. His re-emergence was obviously plotted and timed. He also picks up the stripper at the end and runs off. As for the original pilot plot to kill Daniel, memories are tough, but I also thought his face was shown clearly enough to believe it was truly and originally planned to be him. Even in the lead-in to this episode, it really appeared to be him in the "24 hours earlier" preview. Of course, if they really psychologically manipulated the audience, you could understand how your own expectations (mine in this case) filled in the possibly vague face on the fallen character.
post #180 of 331
I disagree. I think that the pilot did exactly what it was supposed to do, hook us in thinking that a disastrous murder of the engaged party happened. Only it didn't. There was deliberate misdirection and ambiguity. Why not show a clear long finale shot of Daniel's dead face in the pilot and resolve ANY ambiguity if the simple intention was to kill him off? Instead they set up a season long misdirection.
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