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post #1891 of 3146
I posted when I bought this TV a month ago. Went through the same quandry. Ended up buying at H H Gregg, where they had it connected to a better source than BB; and they were willing to deal. Absolutely no regrets. Mostly watch blu ray movies, and everyone who sees it is blown away. Aquos support is most helpful; and the settings on this website are spot on. Get the best price and buy it.
post #1892 of 3146
Ok so the 633 just showed up at the local costco can someone fill me in on the differences of it and the 632? Im hung up on either the 633 or 844 but i dont want the 3d, i just want the best picture so does the 633 have everything the 844 has minus the 3d?
post #1893 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Myers4601 View Post

Ok so the 633 just showed up at the local costco can someone fill me in on the differences of it and the 632? Im hung up on either the 633 or 844 but i dont want the 3d, i just want the best picture so does the 633 have everything the 844 has minus the 3d?

the difference are 844 ===> 3D , Quattron 4 color pixels , 480 motion processing that's it in a nutshell ..........................
I myself can not tell a PQ difference between a Quattron set & a regular 3 color pixel Sharp sets ,many calibrators say the same thing .

differences between a 632 & 633 240 motion processing on the 633 , 9 lbs lighter ( we don't know the why on the weight differences)
post #1894 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post


the difference are 844 ===> 3D , Quattron 4 color pixels , 480 motion processing that's it in a nutshell ..........................
I myself can not tell a PQ difference between a Quattron set & a regular 3 color pixel Sharp sets ,many calibrators say the same thing .

differences between a 632 & 633 240 motion processing on the 633 , 9 lbs lighter ( we don't know the why on the weight differences)

Do the new 7 series set still suffer with dark corners?
post #1895 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Do the new 7 series set still suffer with dark corners?

no reports Yet! of that ,
but there has been reports of clouding on SOME of the 70"ers Edge lighted 2012's
post #1896 of 3146
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Originally Posted by yycjeff View Post

They had the 80 side by side with the LC70LE632. The 80 was underwhelming to say the least compared to the 70.
I know it's only in the store. I know the sets aren't calibrated. I've read posts from people far more knowledgable than I who rave about the 80. BUT, it was night and day. Even my wife said the 80 looked bad. So I went to two other stores to prove myself wrong, and exactly the same thing. In the last store, I had each set hooked up to a blu-ray and then took the same DVD, and the 70 was waaay more sharp and vivid. The 80 looked just...dull.
Never listen to the salespeople, I know. But two of them in two separate stores said that the same number of pixels spread over a larger area = not as sharp a picture, as I messed around with the settings, trying to get the 80 to look better. A little help?

Yes, with only 2 million pixels spread out over 2,732 square inches, you'll have to view the set from 10 or more feet away for the picture to not appear grainy, but there's no doubt, speaking as an owner, that the 80" 632 can produce a sharp and vivid picture. I have no idea why, even with the factory settings, it would appear dull. Our resident ISF calibrator, Chad B., ranked it well in comparison to the 732 Quattron he calibrated. See his reviews:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...8&postcount=15
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post21074429
post #1897 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

the difference are 844 ===> 3D , Quattron 4 color pixels , 480 motion processing that's it in a nutshell ..........................
I myself can not tell a PQ difference between a Quattron set & a regular 3 color pixel Sharp sets ,many calibrators say the same thing .

differences between a 632 & 633 240 motion processing on the 633 , 9 lbs lighter ( we don't know the why on the weight differences)

Ok so It's nice to have for occasional use, but overall I'm not really that concerned about the 3d, so my question is, is the quattron 4 and 480 motion worth the coin? I want the best possible picture, and am willing to fork up the dough for it, but if there is no difference at all i see no reason to spend any more on the 844. I guess I am just more intrigued about the quattron, the illusive yellow pixel...

My only other concern is the soap opera effect, how is it on these sets?
post #1898 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Myers4601 View Post

Ok so It's nice to have for occasional use, but overall I'm not really that concerned about the 3d, so my question is, is the quattron 4 and 480 motion worth the coin? I want the best possible picture, and am willing to fork up the dough for it, but if there is no difference at all i see no reason to spend any more on the 844. I guess I am just more intrigued about the quattron, the illusive yellow pixel...

My only other concern is the soap opera effect, how is it on these sets?

I was able to completely remove all SOE from my 632 by using the Suzook settings & going with Dot by Dot .

I sit back @10-11 feet from my 632 80" depending on the recliner back position, the image is razor sharp ....with the applied setting
post #1899 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Myers4601 View Post

Ok so It's nice to have for occasional use, but overall I'm not really that concerned about the 3d, so my question is, is the quattron 4 and 480 motion worth the coin?
My only other concern is the soap opera effect, how is it on these sets?

Well, if you don't like SOE then you can just leave it turned off with the film mode setting. It works well to smooth out 24 fps judder but it leaves an occasional weird haze around an object in motion and how it interacts with the background. I find it quite bothersome once I'm aware of it so I tend to leave the film mode off. I'm personally bothered by 24 fps judder, and have been since I was a kid and noticed it in the movie theater, so although I leave it turned off, I do miss it. My three previous sets had similar film smoothing settings but I was never aware of any weird artifacts with them (a Vizio 55" LED, Toshiba 52", and an LG 42" LED). The most obvious example of how Sharp works in the film mode is the beginning of the Rum Diary movie where a plane is flying over water. The water surrounding the plane looks really really weird with film mode on.
post #1900 of 3146
Don't have the Sharp but wanted to add, as you stated, Soap Opera Effect occurs when you increase frame interpolation (on my Sony it's called Motion Flow, it's either off, smooth -the most SOE-, standard, clear, clear plus). It is useful to minimize or remove blur but the added frames do make movies look like video. I'm used to it and prefer it to judder and blur. I have 240Hz upscaled to 480 through backlight scanning and am hard pressed to tell the difference from my 120Hz set, however. For 3D, the higher Hz may make a difference, though. For those who haven't yet bought the newer Sharp 80", consider 3D because it is a lot of fun if the 3D content is well-done (Avatar, Hugo, etc).
post #1901 of 3146
OK guys,

Even though North America is now getting the 844, the link below would appear to be the equivalent to the US 632 in the UK - which is only just being released (WTF)....:

http://www.sharp.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/...tml/lcd-tv.htm

Hopefull, our house will have enough room :-)

Oh, just one other thing, are a lot of you guys using this TV for regualr viewing, I was going to use it as a dedicated HT display and keep our old 58inch Sammy for normal TV.

Thanks
post #1902 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Normandee View Post

Hopefull, our house will have enough room :-)
Oh, just one other thing, are a lot of you guys using this TV for regualr viewing, I was going to use it as a dedicated HT display and keep our old 58inch Sammy for normal TV.
Thanks

Hope you're able to get yours real soon...and it fits!
I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to use this set for all viewing, but if you have a dedicated movie/HT room, I'm sure the Sammy would be acceptable for all other viewing. Personally, I don't have a theatre room, so this set is in our main viewing/familyroom.
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Well, if you don't like SOE then you can just leave it turned off with the film mode setting. It works well to smooth out 24 fps judder but it leaves an occasional weird haze around an object in motion and how it interacts with the background. I find it quite bothersome once I'm aware of it so I tend to leave the film mode off. I'm personally bothered by 24 fps judder, and have been since I was a kid and noticed it in the movie theater, so although I leave it turned off, I do miss it. My three previous sets had similar film smoothing settings but I was never aware of any weird artifacts with them (a Vizio 55" LED, Toshiba 52", and an LG 42" LED). The most obvious example of how Sharp works in the film mode is the beginning of the Rum Diary movie where a plane is flying over water. The water surrounding the plane looks really really weird with film mode on.

I have a wd65732 Mitsubishi 65" dlp, it's about 6 yrs old, I have had the lamp replaced twice and the heat sensor for the lamp replaced under warranty, and the video board was replaced under warranty in an attempt to smooth the shakes it has when connected to an older game system, it didn't fix it, I was told it was a dlp problem. The thing is I love It's picture, no soe at all, the picture looks very natural and doesn't have any artifacting, but it's just time to upgrade and I like the looks of the 633, but I have been a skeptic on the ability to match the picture, I was looking at a couple panasonic vierra plasma screens but they aren't as bright and I wanted bigger than a 65", because they showed less soe and what seemed like a more natural picture, the LCD's I was comparing them to looked overly blue(at best buy) but I'm learning that the settings are everything, but I want the best baseline to start with.
post #1904 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Normandee View Post

OK guys,

Even though North America is now getting the 844, the link below would appear to be the equivalent to the US 632 in the UK - which is only just being released (WTF)....:

Hopefull, our house will have enough room :-)

Oh, just one other thing, are a lot of you guys using this TV for regualr viewing, I was going to use it as a dedicated HT display and keep our old 58inch Sammy for normal TV.

Thanks

Well Normandee it seems us in the land of Australia get shafted once again. Sharp announced in December 2011 the release of the 70" and based on the specs it seems this is the 12mth old model!!

Yep the retailers have received stock in the last few weeks....wow...Sharp in the US and UK have already released the 2012 models to the market while in Australia we have to pay RRP $4799 for the 1 year old 70" model! WTFFF???? SERIOUSLY? So when do we expect to see the new models, next year??

I know it is Full array vs the 2012 edge lit models BUT geez Louise, it leaves a very sour taste paying that sort of $$$ for a model we know is ancient history!!!
post #1905 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Normandee View Post

OK guys,

Even though North America is now getting the 844, the link below would appear to be the equivalent to the US 632 in the UK - which is only just being released (WTF)....:

http://www.sharp.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/...tml/lcd-tv.htm

Hopefull, our house will have enough room :-)

Oh, just one other thing, are a lot of you guys using this TV for regualr viewing, I was going to use it as a dedicated HT display and keep our old 58inch Sammy for normal TV.

Thanks

1st off that is the 632 80" Sharp EU version .....

For my set-up ,I use a New Onkyo TX-NR1009 that I set to up-process SD & 1080I to 1080P , I set the Onkyo to 1080P output in the HDMI out setting , then set the display to "dot to dot" & the display will select the box size for the SD without stretching the SD image , this seems to work really well , the New Onkyo's have the HQV chipset & the new Marvel chipset that do compression , up processing , clean-up chores . Very Sharp images are the outcome without the over processed look . They even clean up 1080P compression as well & I get as close to a Blu-Ray image as I've ever seen with both 1080I ,1080P on a compressed DirecTV feed . The Onkyo seems to not touch a Blu-Ray feed off my Sony Br player & I can not tell any difference with a true Blu-Ray feed with the Onkyo in 1080P out-put.
Yes the Onkyo will not render a true Blu-Ray image with any DirecTV feed but it is near to one as I have ever seen .
SD is not anywhere near Up-processed to a Blu-Ray PQ not by a long shot & is not a true 1080P image PQ as well , but it does make the SD watchable with marked improvements in PQ.
I am coming from using a Onkyo TX-NR5008 that had the Reon chipset , the newer chipsets are a vast improvement in the cleaning up of satellite compression . it's such a improvement I am selling the 5008 .
post #1906 of 3146
With my previous set, which only had one HDMI connection, I used an Oppo HDMI switcher. I initially connected the Sharp 632 to this switcher; and found that the screen would go black on several recurring occasions. I have a blu ray player, Elite DVD player, and a Direct TV receiver. When I called Aquos, they recommended connecting all these units with separate HDMI cables; as they had experienced this with many HDMI switching units, including receivers such as you cite. Once I did this I no longer had any black outs. So you don't have this problem with your Onkyo Receiver?
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Originally Posted by fwt View Post

With my previous set, which only had one HDMI connection, I used an Oppo HDMI switcher. I initially connected the Sharp 632 to this switcher; and found that the screen would go black on several recurring occasions. I have a blu ray player, Elite DVD player, and a Direct TV receiver. When I called Aquos, they recommended connecting all these units with separate HDMI cables; as they had experienced this with many HDMI switching units, including receivers such as you cite. Once I did this I no longer had any black outs. So you don't have this problem with your Onkyo Receiver?

No none .. I have had No issues with the " HDMI handshake " the only time there was/is a delay is the 1st time that the Onkyo & the Sharp "Talked to each other " & then each unit remembers each others setting(IIRC there is a code that each unit shares @ 1st & once it's successful the units remember it ) . but for clarity all HDMI cables are run into the Onkyo (Blu-Ray player,DirecTV DVR HR22, HTPC) then out by way of HDMI to the #1 input on the 632 80"
I have no issue with lip sync but on one Channel & that is a local PBS station (And that comes & goes )
post #1908 of 3146
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Originally Posted by drjayz View Post

Well Normandee it seems us in the land of Australia get shafted once again. Sharp announced in December 2011 the release of the 70" and based on the specs it seems this is the 12mth old model!!

Yep the retailers have received stock in the last few weeks....wow...Sharp in the US and UK have already released the 2012 models to the market while in Australia we have to pay RRP $4799 for the 1 year old 70" model! WTFFF???? SERIOUSLY? So when do we expect to see the new models, next year??

I know it is Full array vs the 2012 edge lit models BUT geez Louise, it leaves a very sour taste paying that sort of $$$ for a model we know is ancient history!!!

Australia had been getting ripped off for years pricing wise. It used to be the same here in Canada but pricing is now about the same as US overall. I paid 4.5K for my 80" Sharp 632U the day it came out 6 months ago. Considering the Australian $ is worth MORE than the fading US buck I think it's outrageous that you should be paying far more for the same or older product. But for shipping costs to Australia, I would strongly consider buying most of my electronic toys through the internet.
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Can anyone post Chad B's calibration settings? Could not find find the actual settings, only the great review.
post #1911 of 3146
Chad is a calibrator & they do not share the calibrations of clients
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Originally Posted by fastslappy View Post

chad is a calibrator & they do not share the calibrations of clients

+1
post #1913 of 3146
For convenience...maybe he should take a $20 paypal and shoot them over via email under a non-disclosure agreement!
post #1914 of 3146
With the advancements in todays' electronics, I'm surprised that manufacturers don't devise a chip that would automatically set a tv to receive perfect color. Perfect being defined by the broadcaster via a set of predefined settings in the broadcast signal. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by pds3 View Post

With the advancements in todays' electronics, I'm surprised that manufacturers don't devise a chip that would automatically set a tv to receive perfect color. Perfect being defined by the broadcaster via a set of predefined settings in the broadcast signal. Just a thought.

And, in a perfect world, the bugs would eat the weeds.
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Originally Posted by hdtv4xmas View Post

And, in a perfect world, the bugs would eat the weeds.

And exactly why shouldn't todays televisions exhibit perfect color???
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Originally Posted by hdtv4xmas View Post

And, in a perfect world, the bugs would eat the weeds.

so true....we never have, and never will live in a perfect world.
post #1918 of 3146
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

so true....we never have, and never will live in a perfect world.

Maybe not, but in this case the question is perfectly valid. The analogy with the bugs is just.....Anyway, if a company pays serious $$$ to THX to display their settings then why not have a setting called MRF( Manufactures Recommended Settings) which would allow for the perfect grey scale, color saturation etc now determined by whatever accepted authority? I know calibrators would hate this but I've always wondered why there is no pre calibrated settings on modern displays. It might not be the perfect setting because even within models there would be some variances but it would sure provide a good starting point for owner calibration.
post #1919 of 3146
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Originally Posted by RubyT View Post

Can anyone post Chad B's calibration settings? Could not find find the actual settings, only the great review.

Check the calibration thread for some great settings..

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1398643
post #1920 of 3146
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Maybe not, but in this case the question is perfectly valid. The analogy with the bugs is just.....Anyway, if a company pays serious $$$ to THX to display their settings then why not have a setting called MRF( Manufactures Recommended Settings) which would allow for the perfect grey scale, color saturation etc now determined by whatever accepted authority? I know calibrators would hate this but I've always wondered why there is no pre calibrated settings on modern displays. It might not be the perfect setting because even within models there would be some variances but it would sure provide a good starting point for owner calibration.

To a point I agree with what you and others are saying, but if it's not "the perfect setting" and would only be a good starting point, what real value does it have? I mean, while it would be a better starting point if you're willing to settle for a "to my eyes" setting, the perfect picture would still take a professional calibration.
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