Originally Posted by Chad B
Hmm, those results are strange.
I agree that the red cms sat and red cms value controls do unexpected things to the picture; they should be used sparingly, and it's a good idea to pause an image with skin tones and run the controls up and down to see how they (mis)behave.
However, even before I got the Jeti spectro, I got red dE's under 3 on the 632u measuring with the i1Pro. I'm not trying to knock you, I'm just genuinely puzzled why it's not close to that for you. I'm going to attach one of my 632u calibration reports here. I think it's my first 632, measured with the i1Pro, and it shows movie mode before and after cal. The red dE is below 3 even before cal. If you have your calibration report, I'd be interested to see it and maybe we could figure out what's wrong.
Originally Posted by Chad B
I only remember one 60" 632U well enough to comment on. On that one, by special request of the customer, I went in to the SM and calibrated the 6 point white balance/gamma adjustment (all Sharps I know of have this in the SM; it's just a real bear to deal with) so the customer could use Game mode instead of Movie mode, because he was still a little bothered by some motion processing in Movie mode.
Game had terrible gamma before cal, though. The only way to make it decent was in the SM.
Here's the cal report on it.
Thanks for that Chad, after looking it over the 80" is definitely a different animal. My 60" and one other are sitting about delta 8 pre-cal in Movie mode, I would love to have that pre-cal delta 3.
That 80" had 4 of 7 points on the CIE (mine... 0 of 7) and that average dE was crazy for out of the box... WOW! The average pre-cal dE on mine would be at least 3x that and I have seen pre/post from a couple other 632's that are much closer to mine than that 80" (none of them were 80's however, two other 60"s and one 70").
I'll refrain from making any calibration generalizations on the 80" 632 at this point, if they are all similar to that one they are indeed different from the other 632's (at least mine and the others I have seen info on) and it appears Sharp is spending a little more time on the 80" before it's out the door. This certainly coincides with people calling the 80" the better looking display vs the 70"... they seem to be coming much more accurate out of the box with factory pre-sets (so no wonder).
My Low CT in Movie mode is up close to 8000K out of the box and closer to 10,000K in Game mode (best Game gamma was about the same as what you found with that 60"... 1.9).
Hopefully I'll get a chance to CAL an 80" in the near future and I can see first hand.
I recently discovered some repeatability issues with my i1D3 so I am having it replaced tomorrow. I also have an i1Pro so it will be interesting to see if I get the same results with the replacement i1D3 (although even the i1Pro alone was telling me Red dE was 8+ out of the box).
At least your findings collaborate what I was stating in the settings thread regarding drastic Red setting alteration (I could improve my Red dE while creating image issues
Thanks again Chad, your expertise is greatly appreciated and please don't worry about 'knocking me', I am just an avid enthusiast/hobbyist (long time videophile) and appreciate civil constructive commentary from industry experts.