Official Sharp AQUOS LC-80LE632U Owners Thread - Page 72

I agree. And as far as 3D is concerned, I think it takes a far larger screen than 70 inches to be immersive and provide the true IMAX experience, which many seem to think they'll be getting at home with any 3D set.

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Finally put it up, used the sanus LL11 mount. Mount was great, no issues.

Looks good

Yea I am afraid of the same thing. I kind of think 3d is a gimmick and that I would not use it very often. I am in the market and I am wondering if it is worth the extra cost specifically in the 80" market.

Perhaps not for the 3D but in the review of the 844 at Cleveland Plasma the final conclusion reads: The addition of a 10 point white balance/Gamma adjustment and better red behavior led to an important upgrade in PQ over the already good 632u.

I had a quick question. I have mine hooked up to a Pioneer vsx-1121, through hdmi. Everything sounds and works great. However, I went to use the apps, but I didn't get sound thru the hdmi, I had to switch and get it thru the tv. Do i also need to run an optical cable for the tv apps? When I switched to tv, the sound stayed on directv.

So the question every prospective Sharp 80" buyer will have to ask themselves: is it $1000 better. And I have my doubts that if I saw a 632 next to a 844 with both displaying the same Bluray source and both properly calibrated, that I'd be able to tell much of a difference, let alone that any noticeable difference is worth $1000 more now, versus setting it aside and putting it toward the next big thing -- Sharp 90", or what have you.

Is 3D a gimmick.. yes and no. It can be amusing with the occasional 3d bluray or trip to the theater, it can be fun for kids, but beyond that? Almost nobody uses it day-to-day, and overall, interest in 3D among TV buyers is on the decline, and the use of 3D mode by existing 3DTV owners is on the decline. One of the main reasons for this is simply due to the lack of 3D content being produced. It is almost as if broadcasters have lost interest and abandoned their ambitions of producing 3D content. You can’t blame them, though. The hype surrounding 3D television has worn off and broadcasters have realized that the expenses involved in making 3D content aren’t justifiable - the ROI isn't there.

I read a lot of industry stats and studies and have watched roundtables with CE industry execs; its hilarious to see the theories going back and forth. One explanation, that consumers are "confused" and just need more education. They're basically scratching their heads and wondering why the technological revolution they have attempted to manufacture with billions sunken into marketing effort simply hasn't happened. One problem is they haven't really innovated 3D much beyond its 1950's form.

All that aside, as consumers we shouldn't feed into their game by paying a premium on the 3D capable version of a product line, when it costs them less than $10 in additional hardware to add 3D capability to the 120Hz native panel found in their non-3D model. And if that artificial premium weren't bad enough they double dip on the upsell of the glasses.

As fabs continue to standardize on 120Hz+ native panels eventually these premiums will shrink due to price wars and almost every set will just be a "3DTV", but it'll still leave the problem of a severe lack of content. People have tried to make the argument that HDTV took a while to catch on too, but its hardly the same - one is a headache-inducing, eye straining, optical illusion that's subjective and varies from person to person. The other is an absolute, mathematical sextupling of standard def's resolution that's undeniably sharper to anyone with average sight under the age of 80 that's not a crazy person. Not to mention HDTV was mandated by the government. Don't see that happening with 3D.

Bottom line: 3D is much ado about nothing in the context of home use until the developers of day-to-day content (TV broadcast & cable networks) get interested, and again, they're only backing further away. Which tells us a lot, because they follow the sales and usage stats and studies closer than anyone. And until they care, why should we.

This is the reason I went forward & got a 632 80" well before the 844 hit the market. Add in the fact that the 632 is almost issue free , there just have not been any real reports of panel issues (the only one was with XRustyX 's panel ) , I am more than happy with what I paid for my 632 from US appliance ,the 80"display is a real bargain , more so taken in the fact that the 844 has issues,Plus that 3D is Not all that it is Cracked up to be & lacking any Real content . I find that the 632 80" is the best option in the Huge sized display arena category @ the point in time of NOW . While I will agree that there is room for PQ improvement in all of the Huge display's, the 632 will hold over me till such PQ takes a substantial leap forward . The price point that I got the 632 for will make me wait till there is REALLY something Way better than something that is just Marginally some what better than I already have .

All things being equal it seems the 844 MAY have a slight pq advantage. Then you have to break down the cost of 3d vs non. The 90 is likely to be a high cost luxo TV for awhile if they keep yields low so then that is more about owning the biggest as the pq should be on par with the 844

I went with the 632 because I don't need (or like 3D), and it was worth saving the $700-$1000. That said, the experts I consulted said that the only real advantage, aside from 3D is the availability of extra calibration adjustments that provide some PQ advantage IF used in a professional-quality calibration. But all those same folks said meh, the adjustments on the 633 were just fine.

Is this true? I see no mention of the 632 morphing into the 633 on this thread. Everyone is still talking about getting the 632. If it's still the 632 is there a difference between the 2011 and 2012 632? In doing a comparison on Sharp's site they list the 632 and 633 and the specs are identical. Is the 633 a Best Buy or Costco exclusive? I think the 733 is Costco's version of the 732 so I imagine that is also the case here.

Well I just received my 632 and it was built April 2012. So I would consider mine a 2012 model. Hung it ion the wall yesterday. Now just waiting for the theater seats and credenza to arrive.
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So I've heard various opinions about wall hanging or not. I have a LONG room, about 15' from wall-to-wall, and theoretically wall to couch. If I put the TV on my AV cabinet, where the current TV is, it will be about 10-12' from screen to viewer. Hanging it on the wall would make it 13-14'.

Thoughts??

The only difference seems to be that the 633 has Aquomotion 240. But its still a 120Hz native panel like the 632. And in all likelihood once you A/B compared Aquomotion 240 enabled versus disabled, you'd likely keep it disabled since it looks more natural that way, exception being maybe sports material.

Whether that means Sharp plans to stop producing the 632's and phase them out in favor of the 633's who knows. But my impression after reading through this thread initially was the smarter money going for the 632 when choosing between the three models, due to the lower price. Granted the 633 and 632 have an identical MSRP, but the 632 has been selling for much less due to existing inventories and time on market. And the fact they do have same MSRP does make me think they'll phase out the 632.

Take a look at Sharp's comparison table of the 80" class

get a fully adjustable wall mount like the Sanus , that XF228 pulls out from the wall 28" & turn near 45 degrees
with a room like yours the more movement the better viewing options you will have IMO

http://www.sanus.com/us/en/products/...on-mount/XF228

Apparently the Pioneer is HDMI 1.3 capable, not 1.4 which includes an audio return channel from TV to receiver. So, yes, you'll have to run an additional digital audio cable......or buy a new receiver. Oh, also, I believe I read that only HDMI1 on the Sharp has the ARC....just in case.




I had a similar situation - TV on the stand, 13' viewing distance, mounted on the wall, 15' which is definitely too much. I went with the Sanus XF228 wall mount extended for a viewing distance of 13'. The advantage? It allows placing the center channel speaker on the top shelf of the stand instead of the next lower which I felt was too low. Of course with the TV 33" off the floor, I'm using a few degrees of downward tilt to keep the set perpendicular to my line-of-sight.
Ten feet may be a bit too close. I believe I've seen 10.5' posted here as a minimal distance.

10 foot is fine ,
Fit your set-up is just like mine same sanus
I have mine due to fireplace & mantle the display has to clear ,
& No the FirePlace is never used .. I sit back 10 to 12 feet depending how I have the recliner set at .. I like being able ti move the display sideways & then also angle it for when I have guests over
Mine is also 33" about from the floor the center is right below ,with a very slight down ward angle to get to the sweet spot

^^^ Ten feet is fine if the person sitting three foot off-center doesn't mind a bit of color and contrast loss at the far side of the screen.

I was hoping you guys could help me with a quick question. I am getting a soundbar tomorrow. And i am planning on hooking it up with the digital optical output from the tv. My question is do i have to somehow go into the tv and turn that output on to hear sound out of the soundbar? Or will it work as soon as i hook the optical cable into the tv? Thanks

I looked online and I believe that the Pioneer is 1.4 capable "All Pioneer receivers offer advanced HDMI conveniences like Audio Return Channel and Power Save HDMI Standby Through. I will need to check the settings on the receiver when I get home

And I see the cable I got from Monoprice has ARC capability. So I if all the settings are right, it should work.
Thanks for the information, as I totally overlooked arc.

I doubt the audio return needs to be selected, but a source monitor selection may have to be changed.

Success!! The nice guys from Home Direct and their sub-contractor Interstate Moving and Storage. The guys were totally chill about waiting for me to power it up and checkout the LCD.

Thanks everyone!

Nice. Congrats! Where did you buy it from? I am still debating if I should buy now or wait until the 90 inches comes out so that the 80 inches comes down in price.... Right now i'm still ok with my 65 inches VT25 though.

Here is Suzook's settings ;Now throw those on that Puppy & Report back !!
OPC Off
Backlight +1
Contrast +28
Brightness +1
Color 0
Tint 0
Sharpness 0

Advanced Value
C.M.S. - Hue
R 0
Y +2
G -10
C -9
B 0
M +2

C.M.S. - Saturation
R 0
Y -10
G -5
C 0
B 0
M 0
C.M.S. - Value
R -2
Y -2
G +3
C -18
B +10
M -12
Color Temp. Low
R Gain (LO) +1
G Gain (LO) 0
B Gain (LO) +1
R Gain (HI) 0
G Gain (HI) 0
B Gain (HI) -8
Motion Enhancement 120Hz Lo
Active Contrast Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
DNR Off
Monochrome Off
Range of OPC NA

Your my digital pimp ;-)

Oh, don't get me started on Al Sharpton. And, Anthony, were's your center channel speaker? If you wall mount the TV, the speaker can go on top of that rather narrow and shallow, but great match to your speakers, stand.

The name is Ciarán. The center is temporarily on the shelf under the TV until my new cabinet, with center channel shelf, arrives.

I've usually done my own thing with calibration, but I've always been under the impression that these TV sets and panels were like fingerprints and no two were created identical, meaning calibration tends to be somewhat case by case at least when it comes to the fine tuning.

Have things advanced far enough that using someone else's settings gets you a fairly identical result if the two sets were side by side, or is it more about just getting the thing into the ballmark? I assume its the latter but if manufacturing tolerances have tightened up enough to be able to share CAL settings, thats awesome.