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post #2311 of 3272
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Originally Posted by SkykingUSA View Post

This is interesting - for some reason our TV does not have this interface. At least mine doesn't - it just has the shortcut bar at the bottom of the screen. Sigh.
http://www.televisioninfo.com/News/Sharp-s-2012-Smart-TV-Platform-Explained.htm
I sure hope Sharp decides to update this soon.

Works fine on the LC-70LE847U.
post #2312 of 3272
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Originally Posted by davenrino View Post

Works fine on the LC-70LE847U.

I wonder if it's just the 632 series TVs that are missing the full featured app screen.

davenrino, does your set have the YouTube app as well?
post #2313 of 3272
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Originally Posted by SkykingUSA View Post

I wonder if it's just the 632 series TVs that are missing the full featured app screen.
davenrino, does your set have the YouTube app as well?

Guess I should have said "YouTube" works fine on my 847U (Costco version).
post #2314 of 3272
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Originally Posted by davenrino View Post

Guess I should have said "YouTube" works fine on my 847U (Costco version).

Ok, thanks for clarifying. I wonder why they decided to use different sets of apps on different models - it's not like they advertise them differently to get more money for sets that have YouTube and other apps when some sets don't. I guess I can only wait. Not sure if I should spend more money now on a device like a Roku or apple TV or something so I can get YouTube. Sigh - Sharp, why couldn't you just make this easy for me?! rolleyes.gif

By the way, I spoke with Aquos support today and confirmed the following:
  • This model does not have a YouTube app.
  • Sharp is planning to add YouTube at some point in the future, but there are no set dates.
  • The firmware I have on my TV is the latest (217U1205161), but not yet available on the website. I was told that new fw hits the TVs before they are made available on the web.

Thanks to everyone for your help and advice. It's great to have a forum like this with folks willing to help out.
post #2315 of 3272
Quick question.

I'm currently running my sound from the directv box to my denon receiver via digital rca plug(older denon has no hdmi). I have a slight audio lip sync on some channels and some shows. I've read where someone went from the directv box to the tv then tv to receiver and fixed the problem. Anyone else do this and what in and outs on the tv should I use?

Also If I want to use Netflix I have to get the sound from the tv somehow to the receiver and was wondering if I can kill 2 birds with one wire somehow.
post #2316 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Quick question.
I'm currently running my sound from the directv box to my denon receiver via digital rca plug(older denon has no hdmi). I have a slight audio lip sync on some channels and some shows. I've read where someone went from the directv box to the tv then tv to receiver and fixed the problem. Anyone else do this and what in and outs on the tv should I use?
Also If I want to use Netflix I have to get the sound from the tv somehow to the receiver and was wondering if I can kill 2 birds with one wire somehow.

I do the same with my ATT Uverse box - run it to my Sony receiver. However, I don't have a lip sync issue so probably can't help you with that.

However, I may be able to answer your question about the single cable for Netflix. In short, you should be able to connect the digital audio out from the TV to a digital audio in on your receiver and get the Netflix sound pumping through your receiver instead of the TV. I just connected this cable on my setup and it did successfully stop using the TV speakers for Netflix, and pump the sound to my receiver.

You will still need two cables though - one from your directv to the audio in on the TV, and a second from the audio out on the TV to your receiver. Since your receiver is older with no HDMI, I won't even go over the ARC capability from HDMI port 1 on the TV... :-).

Good luck.
post #2317 of 3272
Alright, right now I have hdmi out from directv to tv input hdmi 1. I am then running the optical out of tv to optical in on my Denon receiver. Now I do have sound this way but it doesn't light up my receiver lights as 5.1 and the sound is not as good like if I'm going right from the directv box to my stereo. It does seem to fix the audio lag I was getting but it seems at the expense of a lesser quality sound.

Does the out on the TV produce a 5.1 digital sound? I thought the book said it did but the receiver for some reason is not showing that.

Now you said I need a cable from the directv to the tv for sound also but doesn't the hdmi cable take care of that? Where is the in on the tv?
post #2318 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Alright, right now I have hdmi out from directv to tv input hdmi 1. I am then running the optical out of tv to optical in on my Denon receiver. Now I do have sound this way but it doesn't light up my receiver lights as 5.1 and the sound is not as good like if I'm going right from the directv box to my stereo. It does seem to fix the audio lag I was getting but it seems at the expense of a lesser quality sound.
Does the out on the TV produce a 5.1 digital sound? I thought the book said it did but the receiver for some reason is not showing that.
Now you said I need a cable from the directv to the tv for sound also but doesn't the hdmi cable take care of that? Where is the in on the tv?
do yourself a favor & up grade the AVR to a HDMI one , life will much sweeter
post #2319 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

do yourself a favor & up grade the AVR to a HDMI one , life will much sweeter

I definitely agree with this. However, that may not be helpful to you right now.

I know the audio output from the TV is limited to Stereo when connecting your audio receiver to the small audio out jack near the HDMI ports, and the manual says it is limited to "PCM/Dolby Digital" output when connecting your audio receiver to the digital audio output optical jack on the TV, as long as you don't have the audio coming in to the TV via HDMI.

Even though the optical audio out can output Dolby Digital, that doesn't mean it's 5.1 - it could still be 2 channel Dolby Digital. I don't think the TV will produce a 5.1 signal output because it only has two speakers built in so it probably downgrades any 5.1 signal coming into the TV and outputs it as something less (maybe 2 channel).

As I said, I'm not sure, but I can test this later on my set to see if I can find a 5.1 source on Vudu or Netflix or something on the TV and see if it outputs to my Sony receiver at 5.1 or just 2 channel or what. I'll try to do that and get back to you, but I'm not holding out much hope.

In the end, if your audio is out of sync when going through the receiver, you should probably just get a newer receiver or look for audio sync settings on your receiver.
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

do yourself a favor & up grade the AVR to a HDMI one , life will much sweeter

Believe me its been on the top of my list for a long time now but the sound is pretty bad ass and the power can't be match without spending a ton of money. Its the Denon AVR-4800, I've looked in the settings and I have a delay setting where I can just switch the distance from me to the speakers and didn't really notice any difference. I didn't have any problems with the other tv only on some channels. I've even noticed it on Blu rays but if its off a pause and play usually takes care of it.
post #2321 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Believe me its been on the top of my list for a long time now but the sound is pretty bad ass and the power can't be match without spending a ton of money. Its the Denon AVR-4800, I've looked in the settings and I have a delay setting where I can just switch the distance from me to the speakers and didn't really notice any difference. I didn't have any problems with the other tv only on some channels. I've even noticed it on Blu rays but if its off a pause and play usually takes care of it.
Admittedly, a less expensive AVR may be a downgrade but will you really notice it? My new 3D capable 7.2 receiver was on sale for $269 from $429, has 4 HDMI in and 1 HDMI out, sounds great but admittedly I'm not an audiophile. It might make your life a lot simpler, however.
post #2322 of 3272
Alright how do you get into the web browser with this thing? Can't find it anywhere.

Clicked on the DLNA, what program do I need to play music or movies from the PC to the TV?
post #2323 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Alright how do you get into the web browser with this thing? Can't find it anywhere.
Clicked on the DLNA, what program do I need to play music or movies from the PC to the TV?

1. I think the web browser is limited to the Aquos support split screen. I don't think you can get to any other web pages. There is no "general" browser for browsing the web like on your PC. :-(

2. To play music/video from your PC, you need to have DLNA-compliant software on the PC which serves up the media so other DLNA compliant devices (like your TV) can see and read it. I don't use that feature on my PC so I'm not sure what software can do that. You could do a Google search for it.

Note: I tried to serve up some media files from an old media player I have which is supposedly DLNA compliant, but the TV could only see the server and the folders. It could not see any files or play anything for some reason. :-< I can't say it was the TVs fault though because I'm not sure how compliant my media player DLNA is.

Hopefully if anyone else has this functionality working, they can share here in the forum.
post #2324 of 3272
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Originally Posted by SkykingUSA View Post

As I said, I'm not sure, but I can test this later on my set to see if I can find a 5.1 source on Vudu or Netflix or something on the TV and see if it outputs to my Sony receiver at 5.1 or just 2 channel or what. I'll try to do that and get back to you, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Well, I tried this and it worked fine. I streamed a 5.1 DD movie from Netflix and my Sony receiver indicated it was receiving and playing DD 5.1 audio from the TV. I also tried playing a DD 5.1 movie from Vudu movies and it also worked fine.

So, the short answer is: yes, the TV can pass 5.1 DD signals through the optical output to a receiver. Only question I suppose is whether it can "pass through" that signal if it comes through one of the TV input ports first. In my tests, the TV was the source of the audio and just outputted it through the optical port.

Maybe it only works through the optical out port and not through the other audio out port (I think the non-optical audio out is stereo only).
post #2325 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Alright how do you get into the web browser with this thing? Can't find it anywhere.
Clicked on the DLNA, what program do I need to play music or movies from the PC to the TV?

If your version of Windows has it, Windows Media Center, not Media Player. The best solution is TVersity, a free DLNA server software. That's what I use to stream movies from my PC to either the XBox360 or PS3.
post #2326 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Alright how do you get into the web browser with this thing? Can't find it anywhere.
Clicked on the DLNA, what program do I need to play music or movies from the PC to the TV?
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Originally Posted by SkykingUSA View Post

1. I think the web browser is limited to the Aquos support split screen. I don't think you can get to any other web pages. There is no "general" browser for browsing the web like on your PC. :-(
2. To play music/video from your PC, you need to have DLNA-compliant software on the PC which serves up the media so other DLNA compliant devices (like your TV) can see and read it. I don't use that feature on my PC so I'm not sure what software can do that. You could do a Google search for it.
Note: I tried to serve up some media files from an old media player I have which is supposedly DLNA compliant, but the TV could only see the server and the folders. It could not see any files or play anything for some reason. :-< I can't say it was the TVs fault though because I'm not sure how compliant my media player DLNA is.
Hopefully if anyone else has this functionality working, they can share here in the forum.

The web browser is available in the new 7 and 8 series panels with Smart Central. It's a little kludgy, but it works. I have better luck just hooking up a computer to to my AVR, then outputting to the tv from the AVR.

You did not mention what operating system you are running. If running Windows 7, DLNA should work for you, and your tv should show up as a device on other local machines.

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post #2327 of 3272
I don't know but is it just me ????
that I could care less about the apps a Display has ( notice I say display?) .
as with the price of these large displays I would much rather have a HT with AVR, 9 channels of amps ,speakers
PLUS I use a HTPC as for ME it's just WAY simpler to use a PC for watching streaming , UTube , on demand , than friggin' around with the onboard apps the TV"s have
my HTPC Bitstreams 7.1 DTS to my AVR & the Onkyo up processes video feeds
a lot of the streaming is now in 1080 & 5.1 , my Onkyo will up process material that is not
a lot of my streaming is now looking as good as my DirecTV feeds .
one can build a HTPC for $600 that will do all of the above plus serve up my email ,Skype my phone calls now I've got a Andriod tablet that syncs with the PC that is now a remote as well.
All on my 80" Sharp wonder of greatness...
smile.gif
post #2328 of 3272
I agree. It is a pain to use the remote as a keyboard to navigate the browser app in the 7 and 8 series. I use a wireless mouse and keyboard for my HTPC attached to my receiver, with output from the receiver to the tv.
post #2329 of 3272
You make a valid point but only for those who have resigned to keeping a PC running all the time. I had a 24/7 PC running for years but just got tired of managing it, tired of the power it consumes, the heat it generates and agreed years ago that I don't need a PC running all the time anymore. I now have a NAS device for all shared storage needs, a media player for watching my videos on tv and a router for external access to stuff when I'm not home.

To me, life is simpler if I have a smaller, lower cost, lower power usage and less heater-like device to handle things like that. I really keep my PC reserved for non- server duties like using Quicken and playing PC games. :-)

But that's just me... :-)

I just bought a WD TV Live Streamer to handle my local media streaming and especially my YouTube watching. Sure, it's not as easy as using a PC or as fully featured, but it's the way for me. If the TV had YouTube I wouldn't have had to buy a new streamer. Oh well, just another toy to play with for a while. :-)
post #2330 of 3272
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Originally Posted by SkykingUSA View Post

You make a valid point but only for those who have resigned to keeping a PC running all the time. I had a 24/7 PC running for years but just got tired of managing it, tired of the power it consumes, the heat it generates and agreed years ago that I don't need a PC running all the time anymore. I now have a NAS device for all shared storage needs, a media player for watching my videos on tv and a router for external access to stuff when I'm not home.
To me, life is simpler if I have a smaller, lower cost, lower power usage and less heater-like device to handle things like that. I really keep my PC reserved for non- server duties like using Quicken and playing PC games. :-)
But that's just me... :-)
I just bought a WD TV Live Streamer to handle my local media streaming and especially my YouTube watching. Sure, it's not as easy as using a PC or as fully featured, but it's the way for me. If the TV had YouTube I wouldn't have had to buy a new streamer. Oh well, just another toy to play with for a while. :-)
My HTPC is only turned on as I start the HT anyway , with a DirecTV recorder, & streaming of the PC no need for 24/7 4 me smile.gif
But you are right everyone's needs are different ,but I use the TV as a Display I don't want all My eggs in the same basket but agin that's just me .
If tech changes I just swap out parts & don't have to replace displays wink.gif
post #2331 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

My HTPC is only turned on as I start the HT anyway , with a DirecTV recorder, & streaming of the PC no need for 24/7 4 me smile.gif
But you are right everyone's needs are different ,but I use the TV as a Display I don't want all My eggs in the same basket but agin that's just me .
If tech changes I just swap out parts & don't have to replace displays wink.gif

+++++1

With todays Sleep mode settings my PC only runs when I want it to. I have been using a bigscreen display as my main PC monitor for over 8 years. The only TV app I use is Netflix.
post #2332 of 3272
Watched a couple of movies last night on Netflix using the TV app but still get no indication on my receiver that it is 5.1 and I'm using the optical out on the TV. Picture looked pretty good and sound wasn't to bad. Both movies were HD and 5.1 in Netflix description. I'm using wireless.

I guess I can live with it for now. No way the wife lets me get a new receiver this soon after getting the TV.

My good PC I built is in the basement, so I would need a 25-40ft HDMI cable to hook it to the TV. Is this the best picture I will get using the HDMI for PC or RGB? Will I have 5.1 by hooking the PC up to the TV somehow?

I see in the options of Netflix the audio is DD+. This is why I do not see it, my receiver is too old. mad.gif
Edited by BMLocal175 - 7/17/12 at 5:45am
post #2333 of 3272
On my smaller screen in the family room, I use the Revue Google TV. They marked it down from $250 to $99 last year. You can bring up the Chrome browser on the screen and have the TV picture in a window. You get a really nice wireless keyboard which also works as a remote for DirecTV. Plus you get Netflix, Youtube and all the other streaming movie services. As a bonus, it also connects to my DLNA server to stream my movies. I got my 80" last week, so I'm thinking of getting another Revue.
post #2334 of 3272
Or just feed the TV a digital signal from a PC and control the TV remotely with a wireless keyboard/mouse and retain all functionality.
post #2335 of 3272
The only spot left open on my radeon 5870 is HDMI. Is this the best hookup possible for the TV or am I better off with RGB?
post #2336 of 3272
HDMI will pass the audio as well
post #2337 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

HDMI will pass the audio as well

Just curious how that will work if its strictly a video card and not a sound card?
post #2338 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Alright, right now I have hdmi out from directv to tv input hdmi 1. I am then running the optical out of tv to optical in on my Denon receiver. Now I do have sound this way but it doesn't light up my receiver lights as 5.1 and the sound is not as good like if I'm going right from the directv box to my stereo. It does seem to fix the audio lag I was getting but it seems at the expense of a lesser quality sound.
Does the out on the TV produce a 5.1 digital sound? I thought the book said it did but the receiver for some reason is not showing that.
Now you said I need a cable from the directv to the tv for sound also but doesn't the hdmi cable take care of that? Where is the in on the tv?
Change the audio output on your television from PCM to Bitstream. The DD 5.1 indicator on your receiver should light up now.
post #2339 of 3272
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Originally Posted by BMLocal175 View Post

Just curious how that will work if its strictly a video card and not a sound card?
the 5XXX & up Radeon cards pass audio as well the video thru the HDMI , if one has a HDMI AVR then that will strip the audio out then & send video direct to the TV
Direct HDMI to the TV from the PC will pass audio to the speakers in the TV as well the video, the TV will also pass audio back to a non-HDMI AVR as well over component cables or the optical cable IIRC
post #2340 of 3272
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Change the audio output on your television from PCM to Bitstream. The DD 5.1 indicator on your receiver should light up now.

I don't see this option anywhere, I don't think it is possible.
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