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post #2401 of 3272
OK.cut the ******** guys. My posted settings have been around a long time and made many a people happy. If you choose not to share then so be it. But all of us realize settings are not a one size fits all. I thought it would be nice to have other options to try but your welcome to your decision..just don't expect much help.around here
post #2402 of 3272
It's pretty simple really, if the calibrator does not mind the settings being shared on the net then it is not disrespectful to post them up (has Chad been asked?)

Without that 'permission' it is disrespectful to do so as this is how these guys make their living and while it might not (?) have direct impact on Chad it could take sales away from another pro who may have lost a potential job from someone that now thinks they have a 'good enough' calibrated display via Chad's posted settings.

It's a fine line but pestering someone that paid their money for settings that they did not achieve on their own is just bad form frown.gif, nobody should come to AVS and be flamed for having a pro calibration and not sharing their settings (this is supposed to be an adult forum where we treat others with respect and act accordingly).

I have Pro settings from many different displays that others have been kind enough to share via pm/e-mail but I would not dream of posting those on the net, that's just common courtesy to the owner of the display that paid for it and, more importantly, the calibrator that did the work.

Jason
post #2403 of 3272

Great article. I was wondering where these huge numbers were coming from. They got so high (960, really?), I started figuring something was up.

Michael
post #2404 of 3272
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

It's pretty simple really, if the calibrator does not mind the settings being shared on the net then it is not disrespectful to post them up (has Chad been asked?)
Without that 'permission' it is disrespectful to do so as this is how these guys make their living and while it might not (?) have direct impact on Chad it could take sales away from another pro who may have lost a potential job from someone that now thinks they have a 'good enough' calibrated display via Chad's posted settings.
It's a fine line but pestering someone that paid their money for settings that they did not achieve on their own is just bad form frown.gif, nobody should come to AVS and be flamed for having a pro calibration and not sharing their settings (this is supposed to be an adult forum where we treat others with respect and act accordingly).
I have Pro settings from many different displays that others have been kind enough to share via pm/e-mail but I would not dream of posting those on the net, that's just common courtesy to the owner of the display that paid for it and, more importantly, the calibrator that did the work.
Jason

Yes.

And my point in posting anything was to offer my opinion, that all the things he did to my set enormously improved the video picture, especially on the DirectTV channels. There's no way I could "share" everything he did to my set, even if I thought it appropriate. The "numbers" don't do justice, or even fairly show everything he did and how he did it.

I still question why for an expensive set like this, Sharp didn't sell it with a picture this good. Probably beats their expensive Elite.
post #2405 of 3272
sorry fwt, I owned a 70 inch Elite, even calibrated I can assure you there is NO way its going to match the Elite

At the end of the day (and to close this discussion) if you are happy with your results then good for you.
post #2406 of 3272
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Originally Posted by fwt View Post

Yes.
And my point in posting anything was to offer my opinion, that all the things he did to my set enormously improved the video picture, especially on the DirectTV channels. There's no way I could "share" everything he did to my set, even if I thought it appropriate. The "numbers" don't do justice, or even fairly show everything he did and how he did it.
I still question why for an expensive set like this, Sharp didn't sell it with a picture this good. Probably beats their expensive Elite.

We all know the Adage about what opinions are like...in this forum we need less of those.... Bring something to the table or dont bother wasting the electrons...
Edited by GGG - 8/1/12 at 9:03am
post #2407 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

OK.cut the ******** guys. My posted settings have been around a long time and made many a people happy. If you choose not to share then so be it. But all of us realize settings are not a one size fits all. I thought it would be nice to have other options to try but your welcome to your decision..just don't expect much help.around here

certainly agree with you, so sick of forum members here state they had it prof, calibrated, and then when asked to post settings it's like some gov't top secret crap. if it wasn't for Suzook and da game pimp many on here would be at ground zero. also we must never assume it will transfer over perfectly with set to set variation. i swear some people are sworn to secrecy. if i had my set calibrated i would share w/out even a hesitation. i just don't get it...rolleyes.gif
post #2408 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

sorry fwt, I owned a 70 inch Elite, even calibrated I can assure you there is NO way its going to match the Elite
At the end of the day (and to close this discussion) if you are happy with your results then good for you.

fwt, i can support this claim as i had one to. 632 is not even close to pq of the Elite. why did i sell it, you ask? local dimming (pulsing) issues.
post #2409 of 3272
I agree - without Suzook, Dagamepip, billdag, etc. I'd still be at the standard settings. Their sharing is much appreciated.

On another topic -

Yesterday I was prompted that there is a new upgrade for the 632/633. Anyone try it yet? Any issues?
post #2410 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Bkbaueraz View Post

I agree - without Suzook, Dagamepip, billdag, etc. I'd still be at the standard settings. Their sharing is much appreciated.
On another topic -
Yesterday I was prompted that there is a new upgrade for the 632/633. Anyone try it yet? Any issues?

Nope no issues, it just deletes some of the apps that went belly up.
post #2411 of 3272
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

Nope no issues, it just deletes some of the apps that went belly up.
Yep
Just did mine with a USB stix . worked Just Fine ! smile.gif
post #2412 of 3272
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

certainly agree with you, so sick of forum members here state they had it prof, calibrated, and then when asked to post settings it's like some gov't top secret crap. if it wasn't for Suzook and da game pimp many on here would be at ground zero. also we must never assume it will transfer over perfectly with set to set variation. i swear some people are sworn to secrecy. if i had my set calibrated i would share w/out even a hesitation. i just don't get it...rolleyes.gif

I agree 100%
post #2413 of 3272
Interesting....
Edited by usr5000 - 8/1/12 at 6:11pm
post #2414 of 3272
Guys, the point here is it is his calibration on his display done by someone else, not sharing the settings is not something he should be flamed for, there is no reason for that type of behavior.

Now let us all move along and let it go, both sides have made their point. wink.gif

Jason
post #2415 of 3272
Is this some sort of low rent district of TV forums? ...really bad boundries here. I don't see the Panny VT50 people whining about not getting cal settings, and their TVs cost LESS. They are out getting theirs professionally calibrated, getting it done right, and enjoying everything the TV has to offer.

Michael
Edited by Michael2000 - 8/1/12 at 10:31pm
post #2416 of 3272
great so a non owner has settled it all for us. I am pretty sure it was said a few pages back but if this make you all feel better then by all means.

its amazing how sensitive people are lately in these forums. Another reason why I dont frequent them much as I used to. ta ta
post #2417 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

great so a non owner has settled it all for us. I am pretty sure it was said a few pages back but if this make you all feel better then by all means.
its amazing how sensitive people are lately in these forums. Another reason why I dont frequent them much as I used to. ta ta

Hi Suzook, actually I suspect your posts have been very helpful to a great many people. Most likely many folks wouldn't even frequent forums like this if they weren't hoping to find a solution to, or information about their electronics problems.
post #2418 of 3272
thanks pds3. Anyways, case closed. lets move it on for the benefit of the community.
post #2419 of 3272
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Guys, the point here is it is his calibration on his display done by someone else, not sharing the settings is not something he should be flamed for, there is no reason for that type of behavior.
Now let us all move along and let it go, both sides have made their point. wink.gif
Jason

MS
post #2420 of 3272
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

fwt, i can support this claim as i had one to. 632 is not even close to pq of the Elite. why did i sell it, you ask? local dimming (pulsing) issues.

I can speak to this too as I have owned an ELITE the 70 inch, as well as the 70640u from sharp, and now the 80632u I just got today, and I will take this 80 inches any day of the week over any tv I have had this year. That's including the VT50 and the ELITE..the color is on par with the vt50 and better then the ELITE IMO. I think not having the extra yellow makes the difference for me on that front. Yes the blacks aren't as good as the ELITE, but close enough where I don't see too big a difference. The cnet review kept me away for this tv for a long time, so bogus, did they get a defective set? Anyway this tv is amazing and 80 inches? WOW! eek.gif
post #2421 of 3272
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Originally Posted by powermonkey24 View Post

I can speak to this too as I have owned an ELITE the 70 inch, as well as the 70640u from sharp, and now the 80632u I just got today, and I will take this 80 inches any day of the week over any tv I have had this year. That's including the VT50 and the ELITE..the color is on par with the vt50 and better then the ELITE IMO. I think not having the extra yellow makes the difference for me on that front. Yes the blacks aren't as good as the ELITE, but close enough where I don't see too big a difference. The cnet review kept me away for this tv for a long time, so bogus, did they get a defective set? Anyway this tv is amazing and 80 inches? WOW! eek.gif

Yup,it's the most trouble free set i have ever owned.
post #2422 of 3272
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

Yup,it's the most trouble free set i have ever owned.

How many years have you had it?
post #2423 of 3272
Just wanted to say I picked up the 80" 632 about 3 weeks ago to replace my Sharp 60" 925 model which went to our bedroom. For the size and price it represents good value and overall were happy with the set. This set does need to be calibrated which I have been messing around with for the last 2 weeks and thought I would share my results which I feel give a good balance between bluray and satellite if you don't feel like switching picture modes all the time. One thing Sharp needs to work on is their CMS which i find doesn't track very well so I did the best I could but still feel theres room for improvement with what I have done so far. I used a Display 3 PRO meter with ChromaPure standard software and i also hooked up my Lumagen Mini that I use for my Sony HW30 and used the auto calibrate feature to see how it looked as well, thats when I noticed that bluray or Apple tv content looked perfect but satellite content looked horrible. So that why I came up with these numbers to use as a good balance between both types of content. Just remember that I'm a novice and these numbers still need some tweaking. One other thing the reason why I set colour temp to middle is I found it made white look white instead of it looking like a dirty white, so white balance is set to D65 and stayed pretty even through the grey scale. Sharpness setting i found should be set to 0 so you get no ringing but looked a bit blurry so thats why I set it to +1. LEt me know what you think and if theres any more tweaking you can do with these numbers, enjoy.

AV Mode: user
Backlight: +5
Contrast: +30
Brightness: 0
Color: 0
Tint: -4
Sharpness: +1
Gamma: -2

CMS Hue
R +22
Y +14
G 0
C -9
B -4
M +7

CMS Saturation
R -6
Y +23
G +3
C -25
B +10
M -26

CMS Value
R -1
Y -6
G 0
C -2
B -6
M -5

Color Temp: middle
R Gain (LO) +24 (HI) +30
G Gain (LO) +2 (HI) +9
B Gain (LO) -20 (HI) -30

All other settings set to off
Edited by shadow39 - 8/4/12 at 5:43pm
post #2424 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

How many years have you had it?

about a year...
post #2425 of 3272
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Originally Posted by shadow39 View Post

Just wanted to say I picked up the 80" 632 about 3 weeks ago to replace my Sharp 60" 925 model which went to our bedroom. For the size and price it represents good value and overall were happy with the set. This set does need to be calibrated which I have been messing around with for the last 2 weeks and thought I would share my results which I feel give a good balance between bluray and satellite if you don't feel like switching picture modes all the time. One thing Sharp needs to work on is their CMS which i find doesn't track very well so I did the best I could but still feel theres room for improvement with what I have done so far. I used a Display 3 PRO meter with ChromaPure standard software and i also hooked up my Lumagen Mini that I use for my Sony HW30 and used the auto calibrate feature to see how it looked as well, thats when I noticed that bluray or Apple tv content looked perfect but satellite content looked horrible. So that why I came up with these numbers to use as a good balance between both types of content. Just remember that I'm a novice and these numbers still need some tweaking. One other thing the reason why I set colour temp to middle is I found it made white look white instead of it looking like a dirty white, so white balance is set to D65 and stayed pretty even through the grey scale. Sharpness setting i found should be set to 0 so you get no ringing but looked a bit blurry so thats why I set it to +1. LEt me know what you think and if theres any more tweaking you can do with these numbers, enjoy.
AV Mode: user
Backlight: +5
Contrast: +30
Brightness: 0
Color: 0
Tint: -4
Sharpness: +1
CMS Hue
R +22
Y +14
G 0
C -9
B -4
M +7
CMS Saturation
R -6
Y +23
G +3
C -25
B +10
M -26
CMS Value
R -1
Y -6
G 0
C -2
B -6
M -5
Color Temp: middle
R Gain (LO) +24 (HI) +30
G Gain (LO) +2 (HI) +9
B Gain (LO) -20 (HI) -30

what's your gamma at?
post #2426 of 3272
shadow39,

Just some observations that you are probably already aware of but if not they may help a bit...

Positive saturation adjustments on these set's can create other issues even if the chart appears to get better.

I see you appear to have run out of blue on the Medium color temp, that's one of the issues with using it, you usually cannot get to 6500K with the Medium CT preset.

Obviously as you said this makes white look more 'white' but I would have to guess there is still a decent amount of blue left in those whites and the color temp is closer to 7500K than 6500K, just a guess. wink.gif

Where did your ftL end up, should be fairly bright, must be a natural ambient lit room?

Jason
post #2427 of 3272
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

what's your gamma at?

Sorry my gamma is set at -2
Every other setting is set to off
post #2428 of 3272
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

shadow39,
Just some observations that you are probably already aware of but if not they may help a bit...
Positive saturation adjustments on these set's can create other issues even if the chart appears to get better.
I see you appear to have run out of blue on the Medium color temp, that's one of the issues with using it, you usually cannot get to 6500K with the Medium CT preset.
Obviously as you said this makes white look more 'white' but I would have to guess there is still a decent amount of blue left in those whites and the color temp is closer to 7500K than 6500K, just a guess. wink.gif
Where did your ftL end up, should be fairly bright, must be a natural ambient lit room?
Jason

Hi Jason, thanks for the input, I'm still a novice with my meter and yes I noticed the other issues that pop up, it's a hard set to dial in for every type of content you feed it. As far as my colour temp goes it ranged from 6490 to 6600 across the grey scale. I will have to pull out my laptop that I use to get my ftL as I use Mac's for all my computer needs so it's on a mini HP. Thanks for the suggestions and help.
Mike
post #2429 of 3272
Chad
Nice piece of work and so helpful. The measurements related to off-center viewing have me worried, but I'm not seeing any others concerned. Is that only observed while "paused"? If not, was that corrected via calibration? Lastly, have you since watched any live sports? If so, what were your thoughts? I'm so ready to take this plunge but worried that my DirectTV Season Pass is going to be a waste! The Blue Shirt at BB commented on the 120 refresh rate, and that i would be disapointed watching football in particular, but I did some research and she may just have been trying to up sell or didn't understand what the cal enhancements could do.

Thanks very much
Chris
post #2430 of 3272
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Originally Posted by ChrisWright33 View Post

Chad
Nice piece of work and so helpful. The measurements related to off-center viewing have me worried, but I'm not seeing any others concerned. Is that only observed while "paused"? If not, was that corrected via calibration? Lastly, have you since watched any live sports? If so, what were your thoughts? I'm so ready to take this plunge but worried that my DirectTV Season Pass is going to be a waste! The Blue Shirt at BB commented on the 120 refresh rate, and that i would be disapointed watching football in particular, but I did some research and she may just have been trying to up sell or didn't understand what the cal enhancements could do.
Thanks very much
Chris

I do test off axis degradation by pausing an image with flesh tones and dark areas so I can see changes in color and contrast. It's visible with normal live content, but not as easily.
Calibration cannot correct for it unless you consistently view from the same off axis angle and want the color calibrated at that angle. In that case, I can put the meter where your head normally is and point it up/over to the center of the screen.
Yes, IMO sports look just fine on the 632U. I'm not a serious sports fan, but I often sample ESPN and other sports channels after calibration. Maybe some football fans could chime in with their opinions, though.
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