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post #2521 of 3149
9/17/12 at 6:50am
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not at all. it was toned down when I had my ISF done and really compliments the set nicely

I ordered the lights. Question on how you put them on, did you use double sided tape?

EDIT: nevermind, the lights strip has sticky tape on the back. Duh! rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif
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post #2522 of 3149
9/17/12 at 11:13am
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Hi, I checked, and I already have motion enhancement off. Any other ideas? I suspect it is just the broadcast, but I've never noticed it on my old plasma. I also noticed that it happens in the same spots all the time - in other words, if I see it happen, then rewind to replay that part, it always happens there, but not in other parts of the show.
Sounds to me like the cable/satellite broadcaster is the likely culprit. Not surprising really. If you have another tv or computer monitor, try plugging them in. I suspect the problem would still be there. I found out long ago that it's best not to judge a TV's performance by how your cable programs look - they are all over the place, quality wise. Not surprisingly, Blu-Rays tend to look uniformly excellent, with almost non-existent artifacts.
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post #2523 of 3149
9/18/12 at 9:56am
Hi Everyone

Great thread here - very informative for a new owner. Just wondering if the suzook settings work well for sports viewing as well or if there is different set up you'd recommend for football/hockey?

Thanks a lot
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post #2524 of 3149
9/18/12 at 9:56am
Hi Everyone

Great thread here - very informative for a new owner. Just wondering if the suzook settings work well for sports viewing as well or if there is different set up you'd recommend for football/hockey?

Thanks a lot
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post #2525 of 3149
9/18/12 at 12:52pm
I just purchased the 80LE632 and installed it yesterday, after lurking here for a number of weeks. I only had an hour or so to play with it last night, but I had a number of questions and comments that I'd like you guys' input on.

For the record, I'm upgrading from a 47" 1080P "monitor" from Westinghouse, circa 2006. The TV is on a TV stand / hutch. I can provide a picture of my setup tonight or tomorrow.


So, in no particular order:

- This thing is huge. It's a bit overwhelming. We sit 12 feet away from the screen, and the picture itself is great -- we don't "see the pixels" -- but I mean, when the screen is off, you have a huuuuuuge shiny black rectangle on your wall. It feels kind of weird. It's actually weird enough that I'm debating downgrading to a 70". I'm going to use it for a week or so, but in the meantime -- any comments? I know people were saying "it shrinks quickly", but right now I'm having major buyer's remorse just based on the size of the thing.

- The only source I tried so far was my PS3, playing a bluray movie. First thing I noticed was the lip-sync issue that people were talking about. I found that in "movie" mode, even after turning everything off (noise correction, motion correction, film mode, auto contrast... everything that could be changed to "off"), and even in "dot to dot mode", I'm seeing lip-sync issues. Video is going from the source to the TV on HDMI, and audio is going from the source to my receiver on optical. Thing is, my receiver doesn't have a "delay" feature where I can sync the audio back up with a delay so that it's as laggy as the picture. Am I basically screwed? This isn't something I experienced with my previous screen. Do I have to use "game mode" for all my sources? Is there a sure-fire way to totally get rid of that video lag on this TV?

- I didn't change any of the color-related settings (didn't load any of you guys' calibration settings), but I did notice the reds are indeed pretty ridiculous. Have people had any luck correcting this red-ness without making the picture "too" perfect (ie, yellow whites, low back-light)? Could you point me towards a couple settings I could try? I know people were "coming out of the closet" saying they didn't really like properly-calibrated pictures, but that they had found a nice compromise between "no crazy reds" and "picture is still bright and awesome".

- When the source is on, but there is no picture (say, a bluray disk is loading, or between scenes in a movie), meaning when the backlight array is on but no pixels are lit, I'm seeing an oval-shaped cloud about two feet wide and one feet tall right in the center of the screen, and two triangular clouds in the bottom left and bottom right corners. They're faint, but they're there. I tried playing with the backlight, contrast and brightness settings real quick, and wasn't able to get rid of the clouding. Does the screen need to "warm up" for a few days? Is this normal, or do I have a bad screen?

- How the heck do you take a digital photograph of a LCD TV?? smile.gif I took a quick picture last night, but it's blowing up the brightness on the screen. Any tips? Take my picture at noon on a sunny day? Some of you guys posted nice pictures...

- I noticed a green pixel on the screen when the picture is black. I have to be right next to the TV to see it, but it's there. I plan on connecting a laptop to the screen tonight and looking at black, white, red, green and blue solids to see if I can find any other ones. Is this a deal-breaker?

- I haven't connected my set-top box yet (HD PVR, on Rogers in Canada), but when I do (in HDMI), should I let the set-top box upscale everything to 1080i (as I did on my previous TV), or should I tell it to output the picture as-is, and let the TV upscale? Which device would typically give me the best results? Common sense tells me the TV would do a better job at it (it's got more recent hardware), but people seem to have mixed opinions about that.

- The PS3 has a setting that lets bluray movies output in 24P when they use a 24 frames per second format. I turned that on. Should I? Is it better for the TV to get its signal at 24P, or for the source to send it at 60P? Could it be the cause of that lip-sync issue I was having? (the movie I was playing was a 24P movie, being output by my PS3 in 24P).

- Instead of having my sources send audio to my receiver directly (the way they are setup today), should I have all my sources send audio to the TV on HDMI, and pass-through audio from my TV to the receiver using the optical out? The documentation was confusing, it made me feel like it would be outputting a stereo signal... is it really the case? PS: my receiver doesn't have HDMI inputs.


Lots of questions! Let me know if I could provide any more info. Again, I only played with the set for an hour (I was sleepy!), I definitely plan on giving it a proper go (TV, bluray, gaming) before making a decision. But in a nutshell, the outcome of my first hour playing with it was: "I've made a Huge Mistake: it's too big!", "I have a faulty set! Everyone on the set said their TV was perfect, mine's got clouding / a dead pixel!", and "I need to get a new receiver if I want to use this set, because it's slower at displaying the picture than my receiver is at playing the sounds!"... not a great feeling. smile.gif

Thank you!
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post #2526 of 3149
9/18/12 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by alexcote View Post

"I've made a Huge Mistake: it's too big!"

That's what she said!biggrin.gif

One can not be too young or too thin and no TV is too big - ever.
In fact, I wish mine was 90". I was playing with the idea, but I just could not justify extra $6500 for the extra 10".
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post #2527 of 3149
9/18/12 at 2:56pm
Well its been awhile since I've visited the 632u owners thread. I popped for this bad boy in March and havent looked back. Its a stunner and the best bang for your buck in my opinion. I just wanted to stop by and see if any of you crazy SOB's are biting on the 90 inch beast yet. Personally I would love the 90 but for that price, theres no way. I dont think I would ever spend more than 5k this day and age with everything changing so fast. Anyways, still love this beast of a tv and highly recomend it if you can still find one. Happy viewing my fellow "Sharpies" wink.gif
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post #2528 of 3149
9/18/12 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by techjunky2 View Post

Well its been awhile since I've visited the 632u owners thread. I popped for this bad boy in March and havent looked back. Its a stunner and the best bang for your buck in my opinion. I just wanted to stop by and see if any of you crazy SOB's are biting on the 90 inch beast yet. Personally I would love the 90 but for that price, theres no way. I dont think I would ever spend more than 5k this day and age with everything changing so fast. Anyways, still love this beast of a tv and highly recomend it if you can still find one. Happy viewing my fellow "Sharpies" wink.gif

I knew a woman one time who wanted to be rich enough to be able to go intoTiffany's and buy something without having to ask how much it costs. Guess what, she never made it. People who can DON'T, and would never even consider buying anything regardless of price.
The point is, many of us can afford the $10K, but I would not pay more than $5~$6K for that tv. I have yet to even see a 90" on display. Costco, Sam's Club, and Fry's (in SW Houston at least) have not seen fit to put a 90 on display, and I have not been curious enough to venture into Magnolia@BestBuy in Sugar Land.
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post #2529 of 3149
9/18/12 at 5:35pm
I think it comes down to diminishing return. I was all set to consider a 90 but would never and I mean ever drop 10k on a set.
My logic just cant bring it to bare that an extra 10 inches should cost that much and would never make my viewing experience worth 6k more

Now, drop an 80 inch Elite in front of me for 7k and thats a different story
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post #2530 of 3149
9/18/12 at 5:49pm
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I knew a woman one time who wanted to be rich enough to be able to go intoTiffany's and buy something without having to ask how much it costs. Guess what, she never made it. People who can DON'T, and would never even consider buying anything regardless of price.
The point is, many of us can afford the $10K, but I would not pay more than $5~$6K for that tv. I have yet to even see a 90" on display. Costco, Sam's Club, and Fry's (in SW Houston at least) have not seen fit to put a 90 on display, and I have not been curious enough to venture into Magnolia@BestBuy in Sugar Land.

I've seen it at Magnolia. Impressive. It has its own dedicated room, LOL.

Still not worth $6K+ compared to 80".

I remember when Sharp was selling 65" Aquos for $20K. There were people on the waiting list like Oprah, Spielberg etc smile.gif
Like 5 years ago or so.
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post #2531 of 3149
9/18/12 at 5:56pm
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

I think it comes down to diminishing return. I was all set to consider a 90 but would never and I mean ever drop 10k on a set.
My logic just cant bring it to bare that an extra 10 inches should cost that much and would never make my viewing experience worth 6k more

Now, drop an 80 inch Elite in front of me for 7k and thats a different story

It's as if you had just read my mind...eek.gif
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post #2532 of 3149
9/18/12 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

I think it comes down to diminishing return. I was all set to consider a 90 but would never and I mean ever drop 10k on a set.
My logic just cant bring it to bare that an extra 10 inches should cost that much and would never make my viewing experience worth 6k more


"Now, drop an 80 inch Elite in front of me for 7k and thats a different story"

even with all the bs the Elite gave you or are you talking 2nd gen with the fixes only,and we both know why we don't have our 1st gen Elite's anymore.
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post #2533 of 3149
9/18/12 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by hdtv4xmas View Post

I knew a woman one time who wanted to be rich enough to be able to go intoTiffany's and buy something without having to ask how much it costs. Guess what, she never made it. People who can DON'T, and would never even consider buying anything regardless of price.
The point is, many of us can afford the $10K, but I would not pay more than $5~$6K for that tv. I have yet to even see a 90" on display. Costco, Sam's Club, and Fry's (in SW Houston at least) have not seen fit to put a 90 on display, and I have not been curious enough to venture into Magnolia@BestBuy in Sugar Land.


Its really not an issue of being able to afford a $10k tv.....I would never spend over $5k on a tv because technology is changing so fast. I dont like pissing money away so I can have the biggest and best for a few months...So what if we can afford it? Most of us are smart enough that we would never pay full retail price. Rich people stay rich because they are smart with their money. I prefer to be a savy consumer rather than a foolish impulse spender. Admit it, those of us that would shell out thousands of dollars for AV gear are few and far between and definately not a majority in society. Most people would find this hobby ridiculous. I love Home Entertainment and the 632U is definately a worthy centerpeice for under $4k. My point is that the 90" Sharp would be a nice size increase for me, but its just not worth double what I paid for the 80.......and thats if you got the 90 for around $7k! To think that I paid $4k for a 50" plasma 5 years ago...... yikes!
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post #2534 of 3149
9/18/12 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by hdtv4xmas View Post

I knew a woman one time who wanted to be rich enough to be able to go intoTiffany's and buy something without having to ask how much it costs. Guess what, she never made it. People who can DON'T, and would never even consider buying anything regardless of price.
The point is, many of us can afford the $10K, but I would not pay more than $5~$6K for that tv. I have yet to even see a 90" on display. Costco, Sam's Club, and Fry's (in SW Houston at least) have not seen fit to put a 90 on display, and I have not been curious enough to venture into Magnolia@BestBuy in Sugar Land.

I was in HH Gregg's in Illinois last week, and they had the 90" on display. The 80" was displayed about 20 feet away, and after walking past the 80" first, I just assumed it was just a second 80" until I took a 2nd look. The 80" is so huge, it's hard to imagine a TV even larger when you standing right next to it. While the 70" seem small compared to the 80", there doesn't seem to be that much of a size difference to the 90" I suppose if you looked at it from a distance it would look huge, but they had it mounted on the end cap of a row so you couldn't really step back to get a good look at the 90". I've had my 80" for about two months now and there was zero yearning wishing I had the 90" at home. My lack of desire was remembering how difficult it was to hoist the 80" on the wall. I wouldn't even want to consider trying to find some friends to help me lift a 90" TV.
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post #2535 of 3149
9/19/12 at 12:59am
Are these displays dim at all for flat panel standards? Currently a projector user, but wanting to look at one of these, I noticed reading a review of the 90 inch they claimed they got merely 14f foot lamberts....

Are these not to be viewed with any lights on? Or are those numbers deceiving and its bright enough to have some lights on? Its one of the reasons i want to ditch my projector, tired of sitting in a pitch black room.
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post #2536 of 3149
9/19/12 at 4:50am
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Are these displays dim at all for flat panel standards? Currently a projector user, but wanting to look at one of these, I noticed reading a review of the 90 inch they claimed they got merely 14f foot lamberts....
Are these not to be viewed with any lights on? Or are those numbers deceiving and its bright enough to have some lights on? Its one of the reasons i want to ditch my projector, tired of sitting in a pitch black room.

14ftl with the backlight at minimum, they were testing the mll using a small white window pattern. you can crank it up to see around 70ftl if you wanted to.
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post #2537 of 3149
9/19/12 at 6:13am
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

even with all the bs the Elite gave you or are you talking 2nd gen with the fixes only,and we both know why we don't have our 1st gen Elite's anymore.

2nd gen would be the assumption when they release the 80 smile.gif
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post #2538 of 3149
9/19/12 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by stormdog2010 View Post

Hi Everyone
Great thread here - very informative for a new owner. Just wondering if the suzook settings work well for sports viewing as well or if there is different set up you'd recommend for football/hockey?
Thanks a lot

I use Suzook's settings for everything, including sports, and they are great!
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post #2539 of 3149
9/19/12 at 11:32am
Thanks - much appreciated
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post #2540 of 3149
9/19/12 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by alexcote View Post

I just purchased the 80LE632 and installed it yesterday, after lurking here for a number of weeks. I only had an hour or so to play with it last night, but I had a number of questions and comments that I'd like you guys' input on.
For the record, I'm upgrading from a 47" 1080P "monitor" from Westinghouse, circa 2006. The TV is on a TV stand / hutch. I can provide a picture of my setup tonight or tomorrow.
So, in no particular order:
- This thing is huge. It's a bit overwhelming. We sit 12 feet away from the screen, and the picture itself is great -- we don't "see the pixels" -- but I mean, when the screen is off, you have a huuuuuuge shiny black rectangle on your wall. It feels kind of weird. It's actually weird enough that I'm debating downgrading to a 70". I'm going to use it for a week or so, but in the meantime -- any comments? I know people were saying "it shrinks quickly", but right now I'm having major buyer's remorse just based on the size of the thing.
- The only source I tried so far was my PS3, playing a bluray movie. First thing I noticed was the lip-sync issue that people were talking about. I found that in "movie" mode, even after turning everything off (noise correction, motion correction, film mode, auto contrast... everything that could be changed to "off"), and even in "dot to dot mode", I'm seeing lip-sync issues. Video is going from the source to the TV on HDMI, and audio is going from the source to my receiver on optical. Thing is, my receiver doesn't have a "delay" feature where I can sync the audio back up with a delay so that it's as laggy as the picture. Am I basically screwed? This isn't something I experienced with my previous screen. Do I have to use "game mode" for all my sources? Is there a sure-fire way to totally get rid of that video lag on this TV?
- I didn't change any of the color-related settings (didn't load any of you guys' calibration settings), but I did notice the reds are indeed pretty ridiculous. Have people had any luck correcting this red-ness without making the picture "too" perfect (ie, yellow whites, low back-light)? Could you point me towards a couple settings I could try? I know people were "coming out of the closet" saying they didn't really like properly-calibrated pictures, but that they had found a nice compromise between "no crazy reds" and "picture is still bright and awesome".
- When the source is on, but there is no picture (say, a bluray disk is loading, or between scenes in a movie), meaning when the backlight array is on but no pixels are lit, I'm seeing an oval-shaped cloud about two feet wide and one feet tall right in the center of the screen, and two triangular clouds in the bottom left and bottom right corners. They're faint, but they're there. I tried playing with the backlight, contrast and brightness settings real quick, and wasn't able to get rid of the clouding. Does the screen need to "warm up" for a few days? Is this normal, or do I have a bad screen?
- How the heck do you take a digital photograph of a LCD TV?? smile.gif I took a quick picture last night, but it's blowing up the brightness on the screen. Any tips? Take my picture at noon on a sunny day? Some of you guys posted nice pictures...
- I noticed a green pixel on the screen when the picture is black. I have to be right next to the TV to see it, but it's there. I plan on connecting a laptop to the screen tonight and looking at black, white, red, green and blue solids to see if I can find any other ones. Is this a deal-breaker?
- I haven't connected my set-top box yet (HD PVR, on Rogers in Canada), but when I do (in HDMI), should I let the set-top box upscale everything to 1080i (as I did on my previous TV), or should I tell it to output the picture as-is, and let the TV upscale? Which device would typically give me the best results? Common sense tells me the TV would do a better job at it (it's got more recent hardware), but people seem to have mixed opinions about that.
- The PS3 has a setting that lets bluray movies output in 24P when they use a 24 frames per second format. I turned that on. Should I? Is it better for the TV to get its signal at 24P, or for the source to send it at 60P? Could it be the cause of that lip-sync issue I was having? (the movie I was playing was a 24P movie, being output by my PS3 in 24P).
- Instead of having my sources send audio to my receiver directly (the way they are setup today), should I have all my sources send audio to the TV on HDMI, and pass-through audio from my TV to the receiver using the optical out? The documentation was confusing, it made me feel like it would be outputting a stereo signal... is it really the case? PS: my receiver doesn't have HDMI inputs.
Lots of questions! Let me know if I could provide any more info. Again, I only played with the set for an hour (I was sleepy!), I definitely plan on giving it a proper go (TV, bluray, gaming) before making a decision. But in a nutshell, the outcome of my first hour playing with it was: "I've made a Huge Mistake: it's too big!", "I have a faulty set! Everyone on the set said their TV was perfect, mine's got clouding / a dead pixel!", and "I need to get a new receiver if I want to use this set, because it's slower at displaying the picture than my receiver is at playing the sounds!"... not a great feeling. smile.gif
Thank you!

I am 11-12 from mine and I was thinking of moving the recliners forward a foot.....
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post #2541 of 3149
9/19/12 at 5:31pm
If you think you have buyer's remorse now, just wait until you've returned your set, replaced it with that 70" set, and you'll spend a long time regretting that move.

If you took a poll on this thread, I'm betting that everyone who owns one of these (myself included) is so pleased that they could easily adjust to the new 90", or even something larger in the future. When it comes to flat panels, bigger is better. It just is.

The one legitimate issue you raise is the lip-synch issue, though so many receivers have the delay feature that fixes it completely. It appears on different sources differently. The absolute worst is when you are watching, say, the evening news, and they take you to some remote newscaster, with a picture in picture view. The lip synch of the newscaster in the picture in picture is horrible. Less horrible with your primary programming.

But look at it like this. You need to spend about another $20,000 to get a different flat panel of comparable size (the 84" LG, and the 85" Panasonic plasma), so use about $500 of that $20,000 you've saved, and consider yourself the beneficiary of a tremendous bargain.

Stick with your set. Yes, it will grow smaller, but there was almost never anything that was ever "too big" in the first place.

Thanks,

Nick cool.gif
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post #2542 of 3149
9/20/12 at 2:00am
I ended up mounting mine on the wall. It looks incredible when off. I mean absolutely impressive. Why anyone would think of downsizing is beyond me.

My four seating positions are now all within 10'2" and 9' 11". Amazing PQ. Added a Darbie Darblet and my mind is truly blown smile.gif

I love this stuff smile.gif
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post #2543 of 3149
9/20/12 at 7:08am
just how bad is the audio delay i see people posting about? i tested the tv with my computer speakers (logitech z-5450 5.1 w/ wireless rears) and it looked ok. i had put it on the user defined mode and turned all dnr and motion enhancements off. looking to get a proper receiver. there's a cheap sony one i was eyeing Sony's STRDH720. it has a 60ms auto delay that can't be adjusted when turned on.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/sony-sony-735-watt-7-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-strdh720-strdh720/10167723.aspx?path=64279106c1adbcf9576a360234068630en02

also, there's a denon, adjustable from 0-200ms. but it doesn't have audio return, which actually looks to be a good feature for me. will be using netflix direct from tv. worse come to worse, i'll just have to buy an extra optical cable for the tv sound.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-5-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-avr-1513-avr-1513/10199397.aspx?path=39b4362b020c943ea01ca47ec597bb73en02
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post #2544 of 3149
9/20/12 at 12:55pm
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just how bad is the audio delay i see people posting about? i tested the tv with my computer speakers (logitech z-5450 5.1 w/ wireless rears) and it looked ok. i had put it on the user defined mode and turned all dnr and motion enhancements off. looking to get a proper receiver. there's a cheap sony one i was eyeing Sony's STRDH720. it has a 60ms auto delay that can't be adjusted when turned on.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/sony-sony-735-watt-7-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-strdh720-strdh720/10167723.aspx?path=64279106c1adbcf9576a360234068630en02
also, there's a denon, adjustable from 0-200ms. but it doesn't have audio return, which actually looks to be a good feature for me. will be using netflix direct from tv. worse come to worse, i'll just have to buy an extra optical cable for the tv sound.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-5-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-avr-1513-avr-1513/10199397.aspx?path=39b4362b020c943ea01ca47ec597bb73en02

Passing audio/video through HDMI to my receiver and then to the panel produces zero audio lag with cable or PS3/Xbox360.

Introducing an optical cable or a coaxial digital cable introduces some lag depending on the source/channel.
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post #2545 of 3149
9/20/12 at 1:30pm
I have a Onkyo TX-NR1009 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
I get NO audio lag & I don't use pass-thru as I have the Onk do the processing up @ 1080P smile.gif
HDMI cables only in my system , MonoPrice cables thru out ... wink.gif

DirecTV , Sony Blu-Ray , HTPC all without audio lag
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post #2546 of 3149
9/20/12 at 2:58pm
No audio lag here either....I pass audio through my Denon AVR 4308ci via HDMI. I can adjust audio delay on my receiver to match tv. I set the delay when i first connected the tv and have had zero problems with audio sync.
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post #2547 of 3149
9/20/12 at 3:07pm
What did you set the delay at? 60ms? 200ms?
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post #2548 of 3149
9/20/12 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by vassili View Post

What did you set the delay at? 60ms? 200ms?
Well, I checked the setting on my Denon AVR 4308ci and I was surprised to find that I hadnt adjusted it at all! It reads 0 ms. Sorry if this didnt help much. I just havent had any of the problems with sync people have mentioned. This tv has been flawless.smile.gif
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post #2549 of 3149
9/21/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by techjunky2 View Post

Well, I checked the setting on my Denon AVR 4308ci and I was surprised to find that I hadnt adjusted it at all! It reads 0 ms. Sorry if this didnt help much. I just havent had any of the problems with sync people have mentioned. This tv has been flawless.smile.gif

nice, this puts some stress off of finding a cheap receiver. my 632 is still sitting in the box after testing it after delivery, waiting to be mounted. can't wait!
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post #2550 of 3149
9/22/12 at 1:00pm
I'm three months out from the receipt of my 632U, and I couldn't be happier! All the advice and recommendations here were spectacular. At $3,697, delivery included, I got what I still believe was an EXCELLENT price and perfect delivery from US Appliance. The guys who delivered it were more than happy to help me unbox it and turn it on. I moved it into place later that day with the help of a neighbor.

Ciarán...
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