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Originally Posted by rjruby View Post

Not sure if either of these will work:
http://3dnow.com/
http://www.hdfury.com/

Checkin out 3dNow looks pretty cool.. I've been looking for something like this for years. Thanks!
Edited by bradford1 - 10/28/12 at 8:20pm
post #2612 of 3272
Costco is showing a $500 manufacturers discount that is only valid 10/28 through 11/3. I wonder if this will filter to other retailer's like Best Buy.
post #2613 of 3272
Has anyone tried Suzook's settings on 80le633 set? I know they are not that different but they are, 120hz vs 240hz speaks to a different panel, or maybe I am wrong. I just want to find the best settings for 633 set from Costco. Thank you.
post #2614 of 3272
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

Has anyone tried Suzook's settings on 80le633 set? I know they are not that different but they are, 120hz vs 240hz speaks to a different panel, or maybe I am wrong. I just want to find the best settings for 633 set from Costco. Thank you.
The setting will be the same ,
the 633 is only 240 thru a software setting the flashes the back strobe twice as fast .
Suzook's setting are the gold standard for user settings , you can get better setting but you would have hire a calibrator
IF you go back in this thread there are a few tweaks of the Suzook settings that some have found works in their room .
Suzooks setting are Not a random setting that was happened upon they were done by a Very renowned Calibrator .
post #2615 of 3272
How long do you think Sharp will continue making the 632?
post #2616 of 3272
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

How long do you think Sharp will continue making the 632?
Until the "Moth Eye " models get released would be my guess . BUT they will cease production months before that .
post #2617 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

The setting will be the same ,
the 633 is only 240 thru a software setting the flashes the back strobe twice as fast .
Suzook's setting are the gold standard for user settings , you can get better setting but you would have hire a calibrator
IF you go back in this thread there are a few tweaks of the Suzook settings that some have found works in their room .
Suzooks setting are Not a random setting that was happened upon they were done by a Very renowned Calibrator .

im feeling the love with this post smile.gif
post #2618 of 3272
Terrific to know that Suzook's settings are working on 633. I just ordered this set from Costco and waiting on delivery. Looks like I will need these settings ASAP. I have been playing with calibration settings on many TV's over the years but Sharps were tougher than others to get calibrated. My current 55LG is just simple to get to decent grays once you are in ISF-modes. Looks like what Suzook's did is quite an achievement. Can't wait to try those settings.
Thanks, folks, for the quick responses.
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

The setting will be the same ,
the 633 is only 240 thru a software setting the flashes the back strobe twice as fast .
Suzook's setting are the gold standard for user settings , you can get better setting but you would have hire a calibrator
IF you go back in this thread there are a few tweaks of the Suzook settings that some have found works in their room .
Suzooks setting are Not a random setting that was happened upon they were done by a Very renowned Calibrator .


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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

im feeling the love with this post smile.gif
post #2619 of 3272
Suzook's settings
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OPC Off
Backlight +1
Contrast +28
Brightness +1
Color 0
Tint 0
Sharpness 0

Advanced Value
C.M.S. - Hue
R 0
Y +2
G -10
C -9
B 0
M +2

C.M.S. - Saturation
R 0
Y -10
G -5
C 0
B 0
M 0
C.M.S. - Value
R -2
Y -2
G +3
C -18
B +10
M -12
Color Temp. Low
R Gain (LO) +1
G Gain (LO) 0
B Gain (LO) +1
R Gain (HI) 0
G Gain (HI) 0
B Gain (HI) -8
Motion Enhancement 120Hz Lo
Active Contrast Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
DNR Off
Monochrome Off
Range of OPC NA
post #2620 of 3272
We should all at least give the proper credit where it is due... to the calibrator that did the work. I believe in this case the settings mentioned originated from Kevin Miller, who also happens to be one of the best calibrators out there.

That said I did work on a 633 a bit and they are indeed almost identical to the 632 (other than the faked 240hz addition).

Jason
post #2621 of 3272
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

We should all at least give the proper credit where it is due... to the calibrator that did the work. I believe in this case the settings mentioned originated from Kevin Miller, who also happens to be one of the best calibrators out there.
That said I did work on a 633 a bit and they are indeed almost identical to the 632 (other than the faked 240hz addition).
Jason
hey Jason there's a guy on the 844 thread who thinks the 240 rate is truly native , I figured you be the best person to explain what the 240 really means ...
post #2622 of 3272
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Originally Posted by John600rr View Post

I quoted my previous post below in case in anyone is wondering how I ended up with is set. I just got my 80632 a couple days ago and got it up onto the wall and I had to come post. This tv is amazing!
It is so much better than my 70-847 set that I can't believe they are made by the same company. Every aspect is better than my old (actually newer model) 70 inch set. I could not be happier the difference is dramatic enough for even the wife unit to be impressed.
If anyone reading this is even thinking about going from this TV to any of the 2012 model Sharp edge lit sets, FORGET IT NOW and get one of these before they are gone.

So I'm a PQ fanatic. I've had 3 65es8000 TV's and a Sharp 845u. I exchanged my 65es8000 due to extreme banding for a Sharp. While the banding is gone, the PQ was pretty bad. Sports were blurry, colors were off, etc. I've exchanged for a Sony 65HX950 however, it too has banding.

Is the PQ dramatically improved? Would you compare the PQ with Samsung or Sony/
post #2623 of 3272
Yes, I am all for fair credits for hard work. I am new to this thread and did not know that there was a ISF calibrator who started the settings. Much appreciate the open and collaborative sharing on this thread. I will most likely will get ISF calibrator in a month or so but until then these settings are intriguing.

What do you guys think of colors on your calibrated TV's especially those that are true ISF or THX, some people refer to them as dull, the ones that I have seen at Magnolia are truly "Warm" to the point where whites are not white but kind of yellowish/reddish and that set was fully ISF-calibrated. I understand that equipment is used to measure thus very little room for bias, but what do you guys think of the brightness, colors and etc. especially with BluRay color space.



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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

We should all at least give the proper credit where it is due... to the calibrator that did the work. I believe in this case the settings mentioned originated from Kevin Miller, who also happens to be one of the best calibrators out there.
That said I did work on a 633 a bit and they are indeed almost identical to the 632 (other than the faked 240hz addition).
Jason
post #2624 of 3272
The processing engine and all of the firmware is completely different. The screen is just the "end state" - all of the the 3D stuff happens elsewhere.
post #2625 of 3272
Looking at today's LED back-lit LCD's is there any way a edge lit non local dimming display can provide as good a picture a total array non local dimming display ? And is the 632/732/735 the only Sharp full array non local dimming models?
post #2626 of 3272
I've been happy with my 70LE845 edge-lit 3D model. The backlight is uniform and there is no clouding. I've heard of flashlighting on these sets, but mine is ok.
Without local dimming, it's best to run the set at about 40% backlight, which is great for dim viewing and good for daylight as well. I've heard complaints of halos
and uneven lighting on the full-array sets, so they are not without their own problems. As long as you keep in mind the technology of LCD filtering, you will find
the edge-lit satisfactory. The new 90" model at BestBuy is edge-lit and looks spectacular as well. My calibrations for the 70" are here:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1417923/sharp-lc-70le845u-overcoming-the-blues-on-the-70-edge-lit-3d-quattron
post #2627 of 3272
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Originally Posted by johnfull View Post

The new 90" model at BestBuy is edge-lit and looks spectacular as well.
You are wrong the new 90" Sharp LC-90LE745U is Not Edge lighted , that display is a Full Array Rear Back Lighted LED . smile.gif
post #2628 of 3272
So, about to pull the trigger on one and was wondering what the best price is. I can't find the 632/633 on Eastcoast TV, they only list the 844 for $4136.00. I got an email from Amazon, one of their resellers Electronix Depot has the 632U for $3859.99 shipped, no tax since I'm in Tx. Also saw that Costco is selling the 633 for $3899, but there would be tax on that purchase of $321.

What are the main differences of the 632- 633 - 844 ?

Do we think there will be a price drop for Black Friday later in Nov?

--wes
post #2629 of 3272
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Originally Posted by wesmanz View Post

So, about to pull the trigger on one and was wondering what the best price is. I can't find the 632/633 on Eastcoast TV, they only list the 844 for $4136.00. I got an email from Amazon, one of their resellers Electronix Depot has the 632U for $3859.99 shipped, no tax since I'm in Tx. Also saw that Costco is selling the 633 for $3899, but there would be tax on that purchase of $321.
What are the main differences of the 632- 633 - 844 ?
Do we think there will be a price drop for Black Friday later in Nov?
--wes


Just searched a different way and found the 632U on Eastcoast and it pulled up without a pic, added it to my cart and it's $3446, that seems hard to beat. Just wondering if the extra cash is worth it for either the 633 or 844

--wes
post #2630 of 3272
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Originally Posted by wesmanz View Post

Just searched a different way and found the 632U on Eastcoast and it pulled up without a pic, added it to my cart and it's $3446, that seems hard to beat. Just wondering if the extra cash is worth it for either the 633 or 844
--wes
633 is nearly the same as a 632 only difference is the 633 has a 240 motion setting I M H O not something to really care about
as most here on the thread have the displays set @ 120 low anyway
the 844 is a Quad pixel , 3D & 240 motion setting .. that display has some issues with random re-boots rolleyes.gif

the 632 & the 633 have no Issues at all smile.gif

I've had my 632 since last Spring ,

biggrin.gif 49er football has been stunning biggrin.gif
post #2631 of 3272
New version of the firmware from Sharp on the network today.
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Do I understand this correctly that the 632, 732, 733, 734, and 735 are all 2011 models and are the only 70" Sharp LEDs with full array backlights? I'm trying desperately to try and find the 632 (since it has the best value of the 5) somewhere under 2k. I saw that Fry's had the 70" 632 at Black Friday last year for $1500!? What a steal.

I'm in Michigan so there is no Frys here but is there a chance there will be black friday deals for a 70" LED sub $1900?

I'm focusing on full array LEDs since I don't think there are any comparative edge-lit LEDs. I'm just trying to find a very good 70"+ LED under 2k and the 632 and 73x series seem to fit the bill, if only I can find one at the price. I'm not opposed to refurbs/second hand.
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Edge lit is the name of the game this year.
The 90" model is edge-lit, at least as sold by BestBuy.
My 70" is edge-lit and I have no issues at all with uneven light.
The full array sets from Sharp are not locally dimmed, so there is no advantage there.
The only backlit set this year is the 80" model and it is NOT under $2,000...
post #2634 of 3272
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Originally Posted by johnfull View Post

Edge lit is the name of the game this year.
The 90" model is edge-lit, at least as sold by BestBuy.
My 70" is edge-lit and I have no issues at all with uneven light.
The full array sets from Sharp are not locally dimmed, so there is no advantage there.
The only backlit set this year is the 80" model and it is NOT under $2,000...

The 90" is full array. I'm worried about the light spotting on the edge-lit TVs. You may be happy with yours, and even I might be fine with it too, but the general consensus is that full array is superior. I realize local dimming is far beyond my budget.
post #2635 of 3272
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Originally Posted by dctrombly View Post

The 90" is full array. I'm worried about the light spotting on the edge-lit TVs. You may be happy with yours, and even I might be fine with it too, but the general consensus is that full array is superior. I realize local dimming is far beyond my budget.
The 2011 732 and 735's are way more expensive than the 2012 edge lit counterparts. Why? Because it's cheaper to build an edge lit than a full array and profit is KING.
post #2636 of 3272
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Originally Posted by dctrombly View Post

The 90" is full array. I'm worried about the light spotting on the edge-lit TVs. You may be happy with yours, and even I might be fine with it too, but the general consensus is that full array is superior. I realize local dimming is far beyond my budget.
the 90" is full array . . BB is Wrong !
Rumor has it Sharp is returning to a full array in the 46",60",70" for next year , Sharp has a alot of returns due to clouding on the 2012's

this is the 2nd time that Sharp has had serious issues with edge lit issues . .
3 years ago Sharp had a whole line of edge lit displays & then the next year they went back to full array due to bad PQ / image issues that came with edge lighting .
post #2637 of 3272
Maybe BestBuy has a different model from the one you've seen.
The one in the Magnolia HiFi room has the same slim profile and bezel as the edge-lit 70" and not the
thicker bezel and fatter profile of the 80". I was told that the 90" is edge-lit and is also tri-color instead
of the Quattron. Just going by what I was told. My 70" shows no clouding or flashlighting.
I guess I should knock on the pedestal of fake wood...or fake brushed metal or whatever the heck it is.
I like the edge-lighting and I've heard of uneven light on the full-array backlights. Too much variation
among the hundreds of elements that serve as light sources and no local dimming anyhow...
post #2638 of 3272
The Sharp LC-90 has LED full-array backlight that does not offer local dimming and according to the test report at Home Theater Magazine it uses the same type of contrast enhancing that is available in LED edge lit models that lowers or raises contrast depending on content for the entire image onscreen, not localized contrast enhancing as performed by local dimming models.
post #2639 of 3272
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Originally Posted by johnfull View Post

Maybe BestBuy has a different model from the one you've seen.
The one in the Magnolia HiFi room has the same slim profile and bezel as the edge-lit 70" and not the
thicker bezel and fatter profile of the 80". I was told that the 90" is edge-lit and is also tri-color instead
of the Quattron. Just going by what I was told. My 70" shows no clouding or flashlighting.
I guess I should knock on the pedestal of fake wood...or fake brushed metal or whatever the heck it is.
I like the edge-lighting and I've heard of uneven light on the full-array backlights. Too much variation
among the hundreds of elements that serve as light sources and no local dimming anyhow...
The 90" Sharp is a Full Back Lighted LED Array

here's the spec page from the Sharp site .

Now will you PLZ stop saying it's edged lighted .

http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/HomeEntertainment/LCDTV/Models/LC90LE745U.aspx?tech_specs=1
Edited by Fastslappy - 11/1/12 at 10:59pm
post #2640 of 3272
You go boy :-)
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