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post #2671 of 3272
A big truck pulled up to my house this afternoon and left my new 80 632. All I can say at this point is "wow".

This is what a TV is supposed to be - big, bold, and beautiful.

I started looking at the big Sharp sets last year when the 70" models came out. I was frankly unimpressed with these offerings, primarily due to each store display I saw having dark corners. I figured that if this was Sharp's idea of full array back lighting, they had a way to go.

They certainly have fixed this issue with the 80" models.

Unboxing and assembly was uneventful, although I never did figure out how I was supposed to place the packing blocks into the top of the box to make the table. I decided that I really didn't need the tabs on the box to line up with the blocks for the few minutes I needed to attach the stand. I was right. Blocks at the top and bottom of the box did the job just fine.

This set replaced a 65" DLP which throws a good picture to this day. No comparison in the sharpness and brightness. Really makes you feel like you are looking out a window.
post #2672 of 3272
Why didn't you go directly to Sharp for the EW? The quoted me a very low price (like $188 for adding 3 or 4 years).
post #2673 of 3272
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Originally Posted by ChrisWright33 View Post

Why didn't you go directly to Sharp for the EW? The quoted me a very low price (like $188 for adding 3 or 4 years).

I agree with you...I paid $179 for 4 years...
post #2674 of 3272
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Originally Posted by usr5000 View Post

I am surprised how all you guys go crazy with price matches and online when all you need do is watch Sears website each week and they have beat every price you have all paid on 5 occasions since April. They put it on sale and then they will have a special 1 day or 2 day TV sale to drop another 15-20 per cent off and then you use a Sears card to get another 5% off and then you pick it up at Sears. I paid $3219 out the door.
I have done the same with refrigerators there. Watched their site and ended up paying $849 for a $2000 French door refrigerator.

I would certainly like to find it at that price. The lowest I've seen from Sears since I've been looking is $3999, plus tax of course which is another 8.75% to the tune of $300+ so it's close to 1k higher than you paid out the door.

--wes
post #2675 of 3272
Just got home from my local best buy. Printed out an ad from ECTV like everyone is talking about for $3444.00. They price matched it no questions asked! Free delivery this Saturday.

In store price was $4999.99

On line price was $3999.99

BTW, the price for the same set at ECTV is now $3578.02 with paycheck code.

Thanks everyone!!!!
post #2676 of 3272
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Originally Posted by ChrisWright33 View Post

Why didn't you go directly to Sharp for the EW? The quoted me a very low price (like $188 for adding 3 or 4 years).

What does the Sharp EW cover? I planned on giving them a call today.
post #2677 of 3272
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Originally Posted by Illegal Machine View Post

What does the Sharp EW cover? I planned on giving them a call today.

Sharp's terms and conditions from their website are attached.

SharpTerms And Conditions.pdf 87k .pdf file
post #2678 of 3272
Thanks IM - yes Sharp's EW is just like the one you get from BB or any other place, but it's about 1/3 the cost.
post #2679 of 3272
Given the disconcerting speculation about Sharp's future, what would happen to the EW from Sharp?
post #2680 of 3272
I'd be curious to see how people with this set feel about cnet's review:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sharp-lc-80le632u/4505-6482_7-35029961.html

I was looking at the many posts on this site that seem to like the set, until I saw the review on cnet. Your thoughts?

Thanks.
post #2681 of 3272
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Originally Posted by propman07 View Post

I'd be curious to see how people with this set feel about cnet's review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sharp-lc-80le632u/4505-6482_7-35029961.html
I was looking at the many posts on this site that seem to like the set, until I saw the review on cnet. Your thoughts?
Thanks.
That review has been discussed extensively on this thread & owners of the 632 like me have widely agreed that the review is totally bogus & fully off base , to the degree that it seems to most of us here on the thread agree that the reviewer did the review in a Best Buy store with the 632 80" on torch mode & never had the 80" 632 in a test lab &/OR in the reviewers home at all rolleyes.gif

As with most if not all modern reviews of audio & display electronics done on these webs sites like CNET . . . ad payola is heavily involved in the slant of any of these reviews done on these sites . ad dollars spent will get a MFGer a glowing review & no payola will get a MFGer a scathing review .
CNET used to be the web review site that really mattered BUT that was before CNET was bought out by corporate interests . To me CNET is just a Huge advertizement site . CNET never did before the corporate take over have links in a review on where to buy the item that was being reviewed .

The 632 80" is Sharp's Best bang 4 yer buck in PQ of it's current displays (even the Elites have had issues with color, pulsing , IR remote receivers failing ) even thou the 632 is not the full feature 3D display as the 844 display is , it does not have the issues that the 844 has with power reboots , difficulty with calibration.
the 632 80" has a ZERO reporting of any issues. That can't be said of other displays that have various problems ( clouding, banding, image burn in , humming, artifacts ) that plague every other display now sold across all brands .
post #2682 of 3272
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Originally Posted by propman07 View Post

I'd be curious to see how people with this set feel about cnet's review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sharp-lc-80le632u/4505-6482_7-35029961.html
I was looking at the many posts on this site that seem to like the set, until I saw the review on cnet. Your thoughts?
Thanks.

It's possible he might have received a bad sample. Compare the reviews of actual users of the lc-80le632u: http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-AQUOS-Class-120Hz-LED-LCD/product-reviews/B005LYRYNG/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

If you would like to have 3D - check these reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-LC80LE844U-80-inch-3D-LED/product-reviews/B0076LY88Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_helpful?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0

I'd take the cnet review with a grain of salt.
post #2683 of 3272
I agree with the comments about the CNET reviews.

I've looked at the sets they seem to rate highest, and they look fine but don't seem to outshine others.

The common denominator seems to be brand. A set has to have the right brand name on the front to be considered one of the worthy contenders on the CNET site.

One factor that reviewers seem to comment about briefly is the massive size of an 80" set. They then go on to their regular review comments.

Size is a big deal - not just a footnote. It takes the viewing experience from the norm to a truly engaging one.
post #2684 of 3272
Fastslappy, myoda, and aydu:

Thanks for the replies. I kind of had a feeling that the number of people on this thread all couldn't be wrong about the set. I also found it hard to believe that they would have shelled out ~$4k for the set, didn't like it, and were trying to mislead others. I'm off to start looking around for the best price on the set.

Thanks again for your comments.
post #2685 of 3272
I've spent a couple of days with my 632 and have come away extremely pleased with my purchase.

The set fit well on the stand for my old set, which was very important. I had a 65" Toshiba DLP with the matching Toshiba stand. While the stand is the typical black pressed board deal, it has 9" shelving spacing. This fits my 8 3/4" center channel perfectly, and is the only stand I have found that offers this generous space on the shelves.Height is also fine, as out heads are very close to center screen while viewing.

I agree with the comments here on AVS that the energy savings features need to be disabled to get a decent picture, as does the OPC light sensor.

I found that the out of the box settings need some adjustment to get anywhere near a watchable picture. My old Toshiba was better in this respecct, in that the picture quality of the preset modes was much more usable.

The CMS on the Sharp is quite detailed. I copied settings from here on AVS and used them as a starting place. With a few adjustment for personal preference, I was very pleased with the results.

I use DISH, Blu-ray, and a PC as sources. Dish looked very good. Blu-ray excellent (depending on the disc). I popped in Super Troopers as a test and it had the best image I had ever seen on a screen. Literally like looking out a window.

I did not have any devices that used on-line content providers, so I tried Netflix's 30 day free trial via the 632. I had always stayed away from these type services as the area I live in only has DSL up to a 3 mb speed. I thought the quality at that speed would be terrible and that there would be lots of stop and starts in a movie. I was wrong.

I picked one of my favorite old movies to check out first - Slaughterhouse V. It was made in the 70's. The HD Netflix version was the best looking copy of the movie I had ever seen. Newer offerings are also excellent, except for those modern films where the Director intentionally messes with the color scheme used in the film, or de-saturates the colors for some misguided emotional intent.

I had ordered a Darbee for use with this set, based on the discussion here on AVS. It arrived a couple of days after I installed the set. Hooking the Darbee unit up took all of 5 minutes, including selecting the HD setting and reducing the effect to 50%.

At first I was able to see the effect. Demo mode helped show it off, but I could see it with regular viewing. Within 15 minutes of viewing, switching the Darbee off made the image I had been watching happiy before nearly unwatchable. It was like I had taken my glasses off.

My conclusion was that although the improvement in the image that you see is minor, your brain adapts to this and makes it more apparent when the image is present without the Darbee effect. Wierd.


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post #2686 of 3272
Hooked up my set and inputed some well known settings from here. The setting I have right now has me in user mode and I notice some lag with the tv and the sound. Is there something I can do to fix this?

This is what I have.

Direct TV HD
Denon AVR-3808CI everything is run through this
Play station 3

Everything is hooked up via HDMI. Thanks!

P.S. I did notice the lag went away when I went to game mode, but the PQ is not as good. I have two different settings in game and user modes.
post #2687 of 3272
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Originally Posted by r8rs4lf View Post

Hooked up my set and inputed some well known settings from here. The setting I have right now has me in user mode and I notice some lag with the tv and the sound. Is there something I can do to fix this?
This is what I have.
Direct TV HD
Denon AVR-3808CI everything is run through this
Play station 3
Everything is hooked up via HDMI. Thanks!
P.S. I did notice the lag went away when I went to game mode, but the PQ is not as good. I have two different settings in game and user modes.
I have direcTV & a 1009 Onkyo that AVR has a audio sync setting on audio but I rarely use it seems with my setup I only get the lag on off channels , try turning off all motion processing=> 120 low is what I use , use movie mode with suzooks settings have the AVr processing off as well
post #2688 of 3272
So whats worse when getting this TV delivered. I understand we should turn it on before signing off on it to make sure the screen is ok but at the same time the TV will probably be extremely cold since it is getting really cold. DO I still turn TV on if it is cold to check or do I wait untill it has reached room temperature. Kind of a lose lose situation. Thoughts?
post #2689 of 3272
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Originally Posted by mpivovar View Post

So whats worse when getting this TV delivered. I understand we should turn it on before signing off on it to make sure the screen is ok but at the same time the TV will probably be extremely cold since it is getting really cold. DO I still turn TV on if it is cold to check or do I wait untill it has reached room temperature. Kind of a lose lose situation. Thoughts?
turn it on BUT be ready to quickly look for a cracked screen & then just as quick turn it off before it warms up . LED's do not produce any real amount of heat , the heat comes from the PCB's (printed circuit boards) & mostly from the power supplies & those will take a few minutes to warm up before they would start warming the cold glass on the screen . The issue with the cold glass is the power supplies & PCB's are located in one small area of the display so as they warm they only warm a small area of glass while most of the screen is ice cold
the different areas between cold & warm fracture the glass due to uneven warming by expansion of the glass at uneven rates .
the screen has 2 panel of glass so you have to turn it on to check if the inner screen is cracked
post #2690 of 3272
I just took delivery of an 80" Sharp and the company I bought it from sent me directions on what to do before signing off with the delivery person.

First, check the shock sticker that was added by the vendor to ensure that the set had not incurred rough treatment during transit.

Second, remove the top of the box and plug the set into an outlet. Power on to make sure it works.

Check the set for any dents or other marks.

I had a flashlight handy and gave the screen a good check.

All was good with my delivery. The driver had instructions to wait for inspection on his paperwork, so he knew he's be there for a few minutes.

About the only things I made sure I had on-hand before the delivery were the flashlight, scissors to cut the straps off the box, and an extension cord to be able to connect power to the set.

I also had a cotton blanket handy for later when I attached the stand to the set. Laid it on the box the set came in while attaching the screws. Also needed a phillips head screw driver to assemble the base and attach the set to it.
post #2691 of 3272
Hi guys. I’ve been reading all posts in this forum for the past 10 days –all 90 pages of it- and I am impressed with all the information I have obtained. Then, I got my 80 from Costco yesterday morning. Everything turned out as I expected: great picture, amazing presence in my living room this TV! BTW, stressful, awful delivery experience by Home Direct USA. Never again...mad.gif Now there is something that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere in this forum. I get this message on my silent screen connected to a Cisco 8652HDC through HDMI: “An incompatible audio signal has been received. Change the output device audio settings to PCM”. Then, I read in the manual that “This message is displayed when an audio format other than PCM is input. (Dolby Digital and DTS audio formats are not supported.) - Set the audio output format of connected external HDMI equipment to PCM. - Refer to the operation manual of the external equipment for setting details.” My Cisco box, of course, does have any option of PCM; it's either Dolby Digital or Other, which also triggers the message. I am an absolute ignorant in audio technology so forgive if I am making dumb questions and here they are: How is it possible that such a high end set does not support Dolby Digital and DTS Audio, when everything I look at supports them? Will I have the same situation with the Sound System I ordered (Yamaha YHT-397), which doesn’t say anywhere that it outputs in or converts to PCM…Thanks in advance for any help in this.
post #2692 of 3272
I'm not familiar with the Cisco cable box.

I do have my 632 connected to a Dish 722 DVR (via a Denon receiver) and the audio works fine. My DVR is outputting DD for audio. The audio is available on the TV's speakers if I turn the volume up on the TV.

I have also played Blu Rays with DTS Master audio tracks and they work fine. Audio is being decoded by the receiver, but no messages on the tv.

This is the first I've heard about an incompatibility with sound formats. ????
post #2693 of 3272
Yes, with a HDTV it has been the first time for me too. Before getting the 80LE633U, I had and returned (flashlighting, clouding, bleeding) a LG, a Sony and a Panasonic. I also own a 60’’ Samsung 2012. None had an audio issue of incompatibility in spite of being fed the same signal. But it’s in the manual: pages 13, 15 and 71.
post #2694 of 3272
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Originally Posted by rpBbisSIB View Post

Yes, with a HDTV it has been the first time for me too. Before getting the 80LE633U, I had and returned (flashlighting, clouding, bleeding) a LG, a Sony and a Panasonic. I also own a 60’’ Samsung 2012. None had an audio issue of incompatibility in spite of being fed the same signal. But it’s in the manual: pages 13, 15 and 71.

I am assuming that you have an hdmi cable attached directly to an hdmi input of you televison. Try this:

http://www.cisco.com/web/consumer/support/userguides2/4026881_A.pdf
Page 12

Important Notes Regarding the HDMI Interface on the Set-Top
The HDMI interface automatically confi gures the audio output for a format supported by the television. Because not all
TVs support the Dolby Digital input, the HDMI interface may automatically select a 2-channel stereo audio confi guration
instead of Dolby Digital, which it carries over to the other digital audio outputs of the set-top. This prevents your home
theater system or Dolby Digital decoder from providing the full Dolby Digital surround-sound effect.
You can override this confi guration by completing the following steps.
1. Press SETTINGS twice on the remote control to open the General Settings menu.
2. Press MOVE UP or MOVE DOWN to select the option Audio: Digital Out.
3. Press MOVE RIGHT to select Dolby Digital. This setting will send Dolby Digital audio to the HDMI, DIGITAL AUDIO
OUT, and OPTICAL AUDIO OUT connectors on the set-top.
post #2695 of 3272
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Originally Posted by rpBbisSIB View Post

Hi guys. I’ve been reading all posts in this forum for the past 10 days –all 90 pages of it- and I am impressed with all the information I have obtained. Then, I got my 80 from Costco yesterday morning. Everything turned out as I expected: great picture, amazing presence in my living room this TV! BTW, stressful, awful delivery experience by Home Direct USA. Never again...mad.gif Now there is something that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere in this forum. I get this message on my silent screen connected to a Cisco 8652HDC through HDMI: “An incompatible audio signal has been received. Change the output device audio settings to PCM”. Then, I read in the manual that “This message is displayed when an audio format other than PCM is input. (Dolby Digital and DTS audio formats are not supported.) - Set the audio output format of connected external HDMI equipment to PCM. - Refer to the operation manual of the external equipment for setting details.” My Cisco box, of course, does have any option of PCM; it's either Dolby Digital or Other, which also triggers the message. I am an absolute ignorant in audio technology so forgive if I am making dumb questions and here they are: How is it possible that such a high end set does not support Dolby Digital and DTS Audio, when everything I look at supports them? Will I have the same situation with the Sound System I ordered (Yamaha YHT-397), which doesn’t say anywhere that it outputs in or converts to PCM…Thanks in advance for any help in this.
Re: “An incompatible audio signal has been received. Change the output device audio settings to PCM” message......
My 80-632U does this a couple of times a week also. It never lasts more than a few seconds and doesn't affect anything. I assume it's just an HDMI handshake issue that resolves itself. I have an Onkyo 609 receiver and a DVDO iScan Duo hooked up between the DVR and TV so it is kind of to be expected. My previous Vizio 55" did it once in a while also.
post #2696 of 3272
Do the famous Suzook settings also work on the 844?
post #2697 of 3272
Greenish tint around sides and bottom of the screen on 80LE633. Folks, I noticed some greenish tint on the sides of the screen and at the bottom across the screen. I put white and grey patterns from the calibration DVDs and sure enough, greenish tinting is obvious. middle of the screen looks white. Any thoughts on what can be causing it? I am still within my 90 days with Costco but certainly do not want this green cast... Let me know if I need to be asking for another TV or simply this is a Sharp panel and this is how they all are. Green tint is not wild green but it is very faint greenish please check yours and let me know if you see it. Many thanks.
post #2698 of 3272
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

Greenish tint around sides and bottom of the screen on 80LE633. Folks, I noticed some greenish tint on the sides of the screen and at the bottom across the screen. I put white and grey patterns from the calibration DVDs and sure enough, greenish tinting is obvious. middle of the screen looks white. Any thoughts on what can be causing it? I am still within my 90 days with Costco but certainly do not want this green cast... Let me know if I need to be asking for another TV or simply this is a Sharp panel and this is how they all are. Green tint is not wild green but it is very faint greenish please check yours and let me know if you see it. Many thanks.
Nope, No green ever reported on a 632 or a 633 on this thread like that . .. replace the display
post #2699 of 3272
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

I am assuming that you have an hdmi cable attached directly to an hdmi input of you televison. Try this:
http://www.cisco.com/web/consumer/support/userguides2/4026881_A.pdf
Page 12
Important Notes Regarding the HDMI Interface on the Set-Top
The HDMI interface automatically confi gures the audio output for a format supported by the television. Because not all
TVs support the Dolby Digital input, the HDMI interface may automatically select a 2-channel stereo audio confi guration
instead of Dolby Digital, which it carries over to the other digital audio outputs of the set-top. This prevents your home
theater system or Dolby Digital decoder from providing the full Dolby Digital surround-sound effect.
You can override this confi guration by completing the following steps.
1. Press SETTINGS twice on the remote control to open the General Settings menu.
2. Press MOVE UP or MOVE DOWN to select the option Audio: Digital Out.
3. Press MOVE RIGHT to select Dolby Digital. This setting will send Dolby Digital audio to the HDMI, DIGITAL AUDIO
OUT, and OPTICAL AUDIO OUT connectors on the set-top.
Thanks, myoda. Yes, I read that on the Cisco manual. I can get analog audio from the left/right outputs of the box and connect them to the single audio input on the Sharp associated with HDMI 1 and then selecting “HDMI + Analog” in the Sharp, but I was looking for a working digital audio input. There is no other digital input in the SHARP 80 but the HDMI Linear PCM. Maybe passing the signal through an AVR will be different. The odd thing is that the TV plays audio right for a few seconds through the HDMI connection and then goes silent permanently with the message of incompatibility…
post #2700 of 3272
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Re: “An incompatible audio signal has been received. Change the output device audio settings to PCM” message......
My 80-632U does this a couple of times a week also. It never lasts more than a few seconds and doesn't affect anything. I assume it's just an HDMI handshake issue that resolves itself. I have an Onkyo 609 receiver and a DVDO iScan Duo hooked up between the DVR and TV so it is kind of to be expected. My previous Vizio 55" did it once in a while also.
In my case the TV's reaction to the signal is permanent. No audio and the message. I think it would also be annoying getting it " a few times a week" though...
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