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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

I am assuming that you have an hdmi cable attached directly to an hdmi input of you televison. Try this:
http://www.cisco.com/web/consumer/support/userguides2/4026881_A.pdf
Page 12
Important Notes Regarding the HDMI Interface on the Set-Top
The HDMI interface automatically confi gures the audio output for a format supported by the television. Because not all
TVs support the Dolby Digital input, the HDMI interface may automatically select a 2-channel stereo audio confi guration
instead of Dolby Digital, which it carries over to the other digital audio outputs of the set-top. This prevents your home
theater system or Dolby Digital decoder from providing the full Dolby Digital surround-sound effect.
You can override this confi guration by completing the following steps.
1. Press SETTINGS twice on the remote control to open the General Settings menu.
2. Press MOVE UP or MOVE DOWN to select the option Audio: Digital Out.
3. Press MOVE RIGHT to select Dolby Digital. This setting will send Dolby Digital audio to the HDMI, DIGITAL AUDIO
OUT, and OPTICAL AUDIO OUT connectors on the set-top.
Thanks, myoda. Yes, I read that on the Cisco manual. I can get analog audio from the left/right outputs of the box and connect them to the single audio input on the Sharp associated with HDMI 1 and then selecting “HDMI + Analog” in the Sharp, but I was looking for a working digital audio input. There is no other digital input in the SHARP 80 but the HDMI Linear PCM. Maybe passing the signal through an AVR will be different. The odd thing is that the TV plays audio right for a few seconds through the HDMI connection and then goes silent permanently with the message of incompatibility…
post #2702 of 3146
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Re: “An incompatible audio signal has been received. Change the output device audio settings to PCM” message......
My 80-632U does this a couple of times a week also. It never lasts more than a few seconds and doesn't affect anything. I assume it's just an HDMI handshake issue that resolves itself. I have an Onkyo 609 receiver and a DVDO iScan Duo hooked up between the DVR and TV so it is kind of to be expected. My previous Vizio 55" did it once in a while also.
In my case the TV's reaction to the signal is permanent. No audio and the message. I think it would also be annoying getting it " a few times a week" though...
post #2703 of 3146
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Originally Posted by rpBbisSIB View Post

In my case the TV's reaction to the signal is permanent. No audio and the message. I think it would also be annoying getting it " a few times a week" though...

I think it is a handshake issue w/ onkyo's. i get this as well w/ my 709.
post #2704 of 3146
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

Greenish tint around sides and bottom of the screen on 80LE633. Folks, I noticed some greenish tint on the sides of the screen and at the bottom across the screen. I put white and grey patterns from the calibration DVDs and sure enough, greenish tinting is obvious. middle of the screen looks white. Any thoughts on what can be causing it? I am still within my 90 days with Costco but certainly do not want this green cast... Let me know if I need to be asking for another TV or simply this is a Sharp panel and this is how they all are. Green tint is not wild green but it is very faint greenish please check yours and let me know if you see it. Many thanks.
It surely sounds like a panel defect. I see nothing but a uniform black screen on my 633. I think that your only option is a replacement. Good luck dealing with Home Direct USA again nevertheless. eek.gif
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I do not see it on the black screen, only on the light grey or white patterns. I do think this is a panel issue and I am so not looking forward to deal with Home Direct USA delivery company, that I am seriously contemplating not to re-purchase this Sharp, delivery was difficult but pick and re-delivery... scary

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Originally Posted by rpBbisSIB View Post

It surely sounds like a panel defect. I see nothing but a uniform black screen on my 633. I think that your only option is a replacement. Good luck dealing with Home Direct USA again nevertheless. eek.gif
post #2706 of 3146
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

I do not see it on the black screen, only on the light grey or white patterns. I do think this is a panel issue and I am so not looking forward to deal with Home Direct USA delivery company, that I am seriously contemplating not to re-purchase this Sharp, delivery was difficult but pick and re-delivery... scary
If you go thru Sharp on the warranty service then they handle the pick-up & delivery of a replacement . You would not have to deal with Home Direct at all .

Home Direct handled my delivery quite nicely ,
2 guys , liftgate truck , they waited while I checked the screen ,even helped me un-pack the 80" biggrin.gif
post #2707 of 3146
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

Greenish tint around sides and bottom of the screen on 80LE633. Folks, I noticed some greenish tint on the sides of the screen and at the bottom across the screen. I put white and grey patterns from the calibration DVDs and sure enough, greenish tinting is obvious. middle of the screen looks white. Any thoughts on what can be causing it? I am still within my 90 days with Costco but certainly do not want this green cast... Let me know if I need to be asking for another TV or simply this is a Sharp panel and this is how they all are. Green tint is not wild green but it is very faint greenish please check yours and let me know if you see it. Many thanks.
Get a new one. You paid enough money for it.
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Yes, I agree, I love 80" thus I will give it another try. Hope it was just this unit...
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

Get a new one. You paid enough money for it.
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I am torn now between 80" of LE633 and 70" of Elite. I worked out a stellar deal with Best Buy on 70" Elite but 80" does matter. I know Elite is just a totally different class of TV, not even close to 632/633 quality-wise but if anyone had a chance to compare them please share your thoughts. 80" does have fair amount of red push even with Kevin/Suzook's settings. ChadB does say that you cannot remove red on 632 without pushing down reds. Elite is phenomenal from what I read but 10" of difference may make movie viewing less immersive.

Open to your thoughts and suggestions.
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I've been playing with my 632 for about a week or so. Setup was a breeze, but I tend to take some time to dial in the settings.

I started with the settings posted (and praised) in this thread and modified to fit my viewing preferences. I like a picture with pop and accurate skin tones.

I have reached this elusive combination, with most HD material.

I use DIsh as a sat provider and find that the channels do vary in HD quality.

Overall, I could not be more pleased with the Sharp 632. An 80" screen is awesome for tv viewing, sports and Blu Ray. Most surprising is the quality of the HD movies on Netflix. I have a basic 3mbs DSL connection, and the Netflix content has been very good to excellent.

I opted for screen size over the smaller Elite series sets. While this may not be the right answer for everyone, it was for me. Now that I have the set dialed in to my liking, I would not give up the additional screen size for a minimal improvement in quality on a smaller screen.
post #2711 of 3146
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Originally Posted by dvzzz View Post

I am torn now between 80" of LE633 and 70" of Elite. I worked out a stellar deal with Best Buy on 70" Elite but 80" does matter. I know Elite is just a totally different class of TV, not even close to 632/633 quality-wise but if anyone had a chance to compare them please share your thoughts. 80" does have fair amount of red push even with Kevin/Suzook's settings. ChadB does say that you cannot remove red on 632 without pushing down reds. Elite is phenomenal from what I read but 10" of difference may make movie viewing less immersive.
Open to your thoughts and suggestions.
I do not own either, having Sonys but i can give you an objective opinion since I have compared both at Magnolia. If you can go down to 70," the Elite is the winner for picture hands down. If size is of greater importance than picture, then the 80" will be the best choice.
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Thanks folks, yes, I did that mental test... If I didn't have green shadowing issue, would I keep my 80le633, despite red push issue, the answer is yes, I love the size, I did notice that with BD player, DVD player, ATV3 red push is minimal, with PopcornHour A300 it is strictly dependent on materials being played, it is amazing how much variability is there when you play non BD-specs files, like RIps that I made for my NAS.
I know my panel is defective, green shadows on the side and bottom is ruining color balance in those areas. Costco is taking time to replace, but Elites are not issue-free either, thus my limbo. Best Buy gave me heck of deal on Elite but... 70 vs 80 eek.gif
post #2713 of 3146
Just want to say thanks for all who have posted the great info on this thread. i have been lurking for quite some time. I have read most of this thread and finally pulled out the credit card this AM. I purchased the 80" 632 from BB and they priced matched Amazon @ $3699.


I am so damn excited I can barely think straight. I am finally updating my home theater. The 632 will replace my Pio 503-CMX plasma. If you are not familiar with the 503-CMX check my AVS join date and realize it is time for an upgrade.

Also, FWIW, I did spring for the Geek Squad installation. It is $260 to deliver, carry upstairs, mount (mount included), and hook up. Now, all these things I can do myself but, if it is dropped, cracked, or any screen issues then it is on them. Plus I think just the mount is $150.

Thanks again to all who share their experience and knowledge.
post #2714 of 3146
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

I do not own either, having Sonys but i can give you an objective opinion since I have compared both at Magnolia. If you can go down to 70," the Elite is the winner for picture hands down. If size is of greater importance than picture, then the 80" will be the best choice.

and coming from someone who has owned an elite 70 and now has a 632 and 844 its a close horse race in a number of areas. I wont profess to say the 632 or 844 beat the Elite in black reproduction, but a calibrated unit comes close in many other categories. Plus for me, the extra 10 inches (and lower cost) make the immersion factor great.

At the end of the day, buy what your eye tells you is the best
post #2715 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

and coming from someone who has owned an elite 70 and now has a 632 and 844 its a close horse race in a number of areas. I wont profess to say the 632 or 844 beat the Elite in black reproduction, but a calibrated unit comes close in many other categories. Plus for me, the extra 10 inches (and lower cost) make the immersion factor great.
At the end of the day, buy what your eye tells you is the best

What do you think of the 90 inch compared to the 844? I have your settings in hand for when (if) I pull the trigger.... I'd like the 90 inch set.
post #2716 of 3146
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Originally Posted by rpBbisSIB View Post

In my case the TV's reaction to the signal is permanent. No audio and the message. I think it would also be annoying getting it " a few times a week" though...
Not really. My experience has been that HDMI has always been slightly buggy mostly due to the Security Protocols to prevent illegal copying. I should also qualify my original comments by mentioning that the warning always came when I switched components when they were all switched on....NEVER when I first turned on my components (giving HDMI time to do its security handshake properly).smile.gif.
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Originally Posted by nebari View Post

Just want to say thanks for all who have posted the great info on this thread. i have been lurking for quite some time. I have read most of this thread and finally pulled out the credit card this AM. I purchased the 80" 632 from BB and they priced matched Amazon @ $3699.
I am so damn excited I can barely think straight. I am finally updating my home theater. The 632 will replace my Pio 503-CMX plasma. If you are not familiar with the 503-CMX check my AVS join date and realize it is time for an upgrade.
Also, FWIW, I did spring for the Geek Squad installation. It is $260 to deliver, carry upstairs, mount (mount included), and hook up. Now, all these things I can do myself but, if it is dropped, cracked, or any screen issues then it is on them. Plus I think just the mount is $150.
Thanks again to all who share their experience and knowledge.
On a slightly humorous note, I wonder if I am the only person to mount my 80-632U single handed on my Sanus wall mount? It CAN be done with essentially zero risk of damaging the TV. The trick is to slowly lever the set (with its own stand attached!) up to the height you want it mounted at (I used LOTS of pieces of plywood and 2x4's as well as a very strong end table. When you get there, you gently slide the set up to the already mounted wall mount (it's already really close), which already has the 2 arms mounted on it. Lifting one end slightly, and then the other until the 4 mounting screws are started, snug them up, slide the table and wood pieces out, and finally removed the OEM stand and you're done.
The only caveat is that this probably worked well for me as the bottom frame of the TV is 23" from the floor. Obviously if you go much higher , it will be increasingly difficult and risky.
Took me no more than an hour and I was giggling to myself when it was done.
Why did I do it? I was too impatient to wait for my brother to come over and help in a day or two...
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Haha...that's awesome billdag. Might actually be a lot safer than having the Mrs. help lift the set up (depending on her stature of course)!
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Not really. My experience has been that HDMI has always been slightly buggy mostly due to the Security Protocols to prevent illegal copying. I should also qualify my original comments by mentioning that the warning always came when I switched components when they were all switched on....NEVER when I first turned on my components (giving HDMI time to do its security handshake properly).smile.gif.
There! Now it makes more sense. I couldn't imagine you, billdag, settling for less after reading all of your very informative posts here: when changing components you are open to surprises where HDMI connections are involved. So, thanks for clearing that out. Nevertheless, I am happy to report that my problems with the audio to the TV speakers from the Cisco 8652HDC box have been solved. The solution comes not from the manual of this box, but from the one of a previous Cisco box, the 8300, where a few additional sentences they left out in the new manual, make all the difference. Sometimes, when setting things out, an intelligently written clarification paragraph saves the day. I can't find this paragraph right now, but what worked was disconnecting everything, resetting the box without HDMI connections, then reconnecting HDMI, and letting the box reset again with the "new found" HDMI connection. The box automatically recognizes that the Sharp80 does not accept Dolby Digital and then it sends audio as Linear PCM, the wonders of HDMI protocols... But for this to happen, the box needs deletion of the previous setup. No more incompatibility message. Of course, I am still waiting for the Home Theater Sound System I ordered, but I don't think I'll have any major problems. The 632/633 have an impressive picture quality, so I am eager to match it with good audio.
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post


The only caveat is that this probably worked well for me as the bottom frame of the TV is 23" from the floor. Obviously if you go much higher , it will be increasingly difficult and risky.
Took me no more than an hour and I was giggling to myself when it was done.
Why did I do it? I was too impatient to wait for my brother to come over and help in a day or two...

I can't believe that you opted to hang such a huge display solo....but then again, if I were in your shoes with the display, mount, and tools all in the same room....I probably would have tried the same thing.....

I was curious....you mentioned that the bottom frame of the TV is 23" from the floor. How did that height work out for you? I'm planning on wall mounting the set, once I pick it up, above a media stand that is 30" tall. I was going to mount the bottom edge of the frame around 6-8 inches above that. Do you think that would be too high?

Thanks.
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What do you guys do with your older LCD's. I had brought a Samsung 52" LCD two years back for 1900 dollars. Now i really want to upgrade to the sharp 80". But only if i could sell this one off.. i have LCD's in other rooms, so i cannot move it elsewhere.
This was the best model in this size range at that time.
LN52B750U1F
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/595765-REG/Samsung_LN52B750U1FXZA_LN52B750_52_1080p_LCD.html

Where do u sell your old LCD's? Anyway i can getsomething back of this, so i can finance my new LCD.
post #2722 of 3146
My set is stand mounted. Oddly enough, the bottom of the frame on mine is also exactly 23" up from the floor. Seems to be the perfect height as it puts our eye level right at mid screen when seated.

If you go higher, you might consider using a tilting wall mount, so you can adjust the set slightly downward - just in case.

I have my set on the factory stand that was made for my old DLP set. Holds all my components (8 3/4" tall center channel speaker) and was made to put eyes at the center of the DLP's image.

Our seating area is a non reclining sofa, so we sit pretty straight up when viewing the set. If you sit in a recliner, your viewing angle may make a slightly higher mounting point comfortable for the set, without straining your neck.

Both my wife and I wear bifocal glasses, so viewing out of the top (distance) part of the lenses of the glasses is important. I can see that reclining with bifocals on would benefit from the screen being higher, so as to not have to crane your neck to be able to see the screen clearly.
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I sent an email to people I work with to sell my Sharp 65 before I got the 80. I've talked so much about the 80 I now have 4 or 5 people waiting to buy it when I upgrade next!
post #2724 of 3146
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post

My set is stand mounted. Oddly enough, the bottom of the frame on mine is also exactly 23" up from the floor. Seems to be the perfect height as it puts our eye level right at mid screen when seated.
If you go higher, you might consider using a tilting wall mount, so you can adjust the set slightly downward - just in case.
I have my set on the factory stand that was made for my old DLP set. Holds all my components (8 3/4" tall center channel speaker) and was made to put eyes at the center of the DLP's image.
Our seating area is a non reclining sofa, so we sit pretty straight up when viewing the set. If you sit in a recliner, your viewing angle may make a slightly higher mounting point comfortable for the set, without straining your neck.
Both my wife and I wear bifocal glasses, so viewing out of the top (distance) part of the lenses of the glasses is important. I can see that reclining with bifocals on would benefit from the screen being higher, so as to not have to crane your neck to be able to see the screen clearly.

Aydu-

Thanks for your comments. I'm planning on using the wall mount by Sanus that others in this thread have recommended. It has the capability to tilt, so hopefully, that will let me mount it a little higher on the wall to clear the media stand that will be in front of it.
post #2725 of 3146
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post

My set is stand mounted. Oddly enough, the bottom of the frame on mine is also exactly 23" up from the floor. Seems to be the perfect height as it puts our eye level right at mid screen when seated.
If you go higher, you might consider using a tilting wall mount, so you can adjust the set slightly downward - just in case.
I have my set on the factory stand that was made for my old DLP set. Holds all my components (8 3/4" tall center channel speaker) and was made to put eyes at the center of the DLP's image.
Our seating area is a non reclining sofa, so we sit pretty straight up when viewing the set. If you sit in a recliner, your viewing angle may make a slightly higher mounting point comfortable for the set, without straining your neck.
Both my wife and I wear bifocal glasses, so viewing out of the top (distance) part of the lenses of the glasses is important. I can see that reclining with bifocals on would benefit from the screen being higher, so as to not have to crane your neck to be able to see the screen clearly.
Yes, my TV height was arrived at by my previous experience with a 1080P projector. I made the mistake of mounting the screen much too high. It became uncomfortable after a short while of viewing.
I basically found a low 2 shelf 60" table at Ikea and allowed a further 8" for equipment mounted on the table top. My JBL center speaker JUST grazes the bottom of the screen so I wish I had given it 1" more height. My Sanus mount does provide for tilt and I do have it slightly angled downward - maybe a couple of degrees or so...........Other than that, I find the screen height perfect for prolonged stress free viewing.
Having the set mounted over the fireplace may please the wife's aesthetics but I would personally find it much too high for me.
post #2726 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

and coming from someone who has owned an elite 70 and now has a 632 and 844 its a close horse race in a number of areas. I wont profess to say the 632 or 844 beat the Elite in black reproduction, but a calibrated unit comes close in many other categories. Plus for me, the extra 10 inches (and lower cost) make the immersion factor great.
At the end of the day, buy what your eye tells you is the best
i can concur as well. i have owned/own both as well. what suzook has said, is in fact accurate. what i have observed over the past year or so is it's a closer race than many people believe. once you have the 632/844 correctly calibrated it's a very good pq with the right source. if you desire almost picture perfect black levels as your #1 priority you probably should go the Elite route. if "overall pq" and size is than the 632. be careful with the Elite as it has a local dimming "flaw" in which is the reason i gave it up, and i believe Suzook did as well.
post #2727 of 3146
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Originally Posted by propman07 View Post

I can't believe that you opted to hang such a huge display solo....but then again, if I were in your shoes with the display, mount, and tools all in the same room....I probably would have tried the same thing.....
I was curious....you mentioned that the bottom frame of the TV is 23" from the floor. How did that height work out for you? I'm planning on wall mounting the set, once I pick it up, above a media stand that is 30" tall. I was going to mount the bottom edge of the frame around 6-8 inches above that. Do you think that would be too high?
Thanks.

My display is 42 inches from the floor to the bottom and when on the recliner there is less neck craining like you get when the set is down lower.
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Mine is 23" from the floor as well and it is absolutely perfect.
post #2729 of 3146
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Originally Posted by usr5000 View Post

My display is 42 inches from the floor to the bottom and when on the recliner there is less neck craining like you get when the set is down lower.

usr5000-

Thanks for your reply. I will have a recliner about 13' away from the display, so hopefully, there won't be any neck strain.
post #2730 of 3146
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On a slightly humorous note, I wonder if I am the only person to mount my 80-632U single handed on my Sanus wall mount? It CAN be done with essentially zero risk of damaging the TV. The trick is to slowly lever the set (with its own stand attached!) up to the height you want it mounted at (I used LOTS of pieces of plywood and 2x4's as well as a very strong end table. When you get there, you gently slide the set up to the already mounted wall mount (it's already really close), which already has the 2 arms mounted on it. Lifting one end slightly, and then the other until the 4 mounting screws are started, snug them up, slide the table and wood pieces out, and finally removed the OEM stand and you're done.
The only caveat is that this probably worked well for me as the bottom frame of the TV is 23" from the floor. Obviously if you go much higher , it will be increasingly difficult and risky.
Took me no more than an hour and I was giggling to myself when it was done.
Why did I do it? I was too impatient to wait for my brother to come over and help in a day or two...

And here I thought I was the only one. I did almost the exact same thing to mount my set when I got it. Too funny!
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