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post #2941 of 3146
Looks like Best Buy has one of the biggest sales so far on this set. I don't think I've seen them have it this low before.
post #2942 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Pacbellguy View Post

Looks like Best Buy has one of the biggest sales so far on this set. I don't think I've seen them have it this low before.

Thank you, purchased from Best Buy on Dec 29, called, receive $200+ credit for price match.
post #2943 of 3146
@billdag, thanks for posting the settings. CNET's settings are not bad, yours is better though!!! smile.gif
post #2944 of 3146
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

I was surfing around on my laptop yesterday and came across an older C-Net review of this set. I'm shaking my head at Ty Pendlebury's repeated comments about the 80-632U's poor black level. What has he been smoking? I watch my set with subdued lighting in Standard mode with back-lighting at -5 and to my eyes, the blacks are VERY satisfying, certainly, by far, the best of any of my previous 9 non-local dimming sets. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Anyway, they posted their settings (using Spectra-Cal and professional equipment) in MOVIE mode so I printed them out and set my TV to the same settings. Thusly, I was able to quickly switch between my custom Standard mode and C-Net's Movie mode. Bouncing back and forth for about 1/2 Hour, I finally decided that there was no contest. C-Net's settings looked pale and washed out compared to mine. Despite my much lower back-light level, my settings had far more POP and more saturated color than C-Net's. I have to check with my watt meter whether they are comparable in different modes. They are. I just checked.
My settings Standard Mode @ -5 BL=112W
C-Net's Movie Mode @ +5=167W
If I reduced the Movie Mode to -5 then it also showed 112W. Makes sense. Fixed Dynamic, by the way = 240W. There is a price to be paid for all that brightness!

I am curious how close C-Net's settings are to those of you who had their sets professionally calibrated? Without giving away too much detail (unless you want to - I know it's a sensitive subject), your feedback would be appreciated.
Other 80-632U owners - You may want to try these yourself and form your own opinion. These settings will NOT affect your settings in other MODES like Game or Standard etc.
Here are C-Nets settings:

AV MODE: MOVIE
OPC: Off
Backlight: +6
Contrast: +28
Brightness: +1
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

--Advanced sub-menu

C.M.S. -Hue
R: -5
Y: 0+2
G: 0
C: -8
B: 0
M: +2

C.M.S. -Saturation
R: 0
Y: 0
G: 0
C: -4
B: -2
M: 0

C.M.S. -Value
R: 0
Y: 0
G: +8
C: -15
B: +14
M: -14

Color Temp: Low
R Gain (LO): +4
G Gain (LO): -7
B Gain (LO): -10
R Gain (HI): -10
G Gain (HI): -14
B Gain (HI): -22

Motion Enhancement: Off
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma Adjustment: +2
Black Level: [grayed out]
Film Mode: Off
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
Range of OPC: [any]

I tried these last night and they are the best I have seen so far.....
post #2945 of 3146
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Originally Posted by Pacbellguy View Post

Looks like Best Buy has one of the biggest sales so far on this set. I don't think I've seen them have it this low before.

I just rushed out to Best Buy and they matched me... you just saved me a few hundred dollars. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
post #2946 of 3146
This is really odd, but for some reason the power button on my remote control randomly stopped working. Every other button seems to work okay, but just not the power. Anyone have any clue what happened??
post #2947 of 3146
This is really odd, but for some reason the power button on my remote control randomly stopped working. Every other button seems to work okay, but just not the power. Anyone have any clue what happened??
post #2948 of 3146
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Originally Posted by usr5000 View Post

I tried these last night and they are the best I have seen so far.....
Thanks to all the people who tried my settings and were kind enough to respond. I've been a videophile/hobbyist/enthusiast for about 30 Yrs. since I bought my first 4 head RCA VCR, a $700 enhancer, and a 19" RCA monitor with composite inputs!!!
During that time I formed a lot of opinions based on my own experience, reading a couple of thousand magazines, and spending far too much time on the Internet Googling for the latest and greatest.
Too me, the most critical thing when setting up a TV is to have overall brightness at a comfortable level, set contrast, brightness, and gamma so that you get an even gradation across the board and avoid black and white crush. Equally important is to have the color set so that you don't have obvious color tinging the display. I find most sets are adequate there. I'm still a bit dubious about having the color track absolutely true across the board. So long as nothing is seriously wrong - like fluorescent greens E.g. and grays look gray then I really don't see much visual improvement or enjoyment by getting it much closer with color sensors and 10 stage CMS, or whatever.
The sad truth is that most of us watch mostly cable programming and the consistency there is atrocious so what's the point?
I do have to chuckle whenever I read a review and the reviewer gives his preliminary impression of the picture. More often than not, it is quite favorable. It's not until equipment is hooked up and the set is tested that, oh my, this set has a decided Red push and the temp is way off at 6800K.
My favorite tester/reviewer of all time is the late great Julian Hirsch of Stereo Review (now Sound&Vision). He used to piss of all the golden ears and ultra-reviewers of his time with his views. They would typically oooh and ahhh over the latest high-end amp and super deluxe speaker cables and lots of other equipment.
Mr. Hirsch said, "Fine - let's test it but a double blind test!"
Over 10 Yrs. of reading him, I don't recall him ever being wrong. He actually proved that a 10W/channel amp sounded identical to a 300W monster provided neither was over-driven, they were equalized the same and volume was the same level (and, of course, the same speakers and content).
So, here's my point. I want the next 'Julian Hirsch' to set up the same 2 TV's. One by eye by someone who understands well, how to set up a TV and the other one as an ISF calibrated set.
Then, have a number of people come in to a room and watch one set only. Leave the room and 5 minutes later go into another room and watch the same content on another set. Then form their comments. I think the outcome would surprise many people.
The reason for the 5 minute delay is that I found that if I watch a monitor with a reddish push then I immediately look at a neutrally colored monitor, it will look like it has a GREENISH cast. I know this because I have twin 24" Dell monitors in my office and have tried this. The converse is also true. Set up one monitor with a decided Green push. Look at it for a minute or so and then look back at the neutral one - Now you would swear everything is pinkish!
Our eyes are just like our ears - they adapt fairly quickly to what they are looking at.
Sorry for the length of my rant but like I said, I've been passionate about this stuff for many many years.
post #2949 of 3146
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Originally Posted by War Eagle CT View Post

I just rushed out to Best Buy and they matched me... you just saved me a few hundred dollars. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

I just wish they were offering the 3 year financing deal. They stopped offering it several months ago and I've always bought my high ticket items with that deal.
post #2950 of 3146
"the most critical thing when setting up a TV is to have overall brightness at a comfortable level, set contrast, brightness, and gamma so that you get an even gradation across the board and avoid black and white crush" Bill, easier said than done. I am having a hell of a problem setting up my projector to avoid black crush.

I just popped in my Planet Earth and Life BD to test your settings again (using the lower contrast and backlight) and the pictures are outstanding. CNET used a gamma of 2 so I lowered to 1, and fouled around with Br, Cn to get a decent picture. thanks again for sharing your settings. My set is a 844, but the only difference to the 632 is the 3D chip so your settings seem to work fine..
Edited by chanc - 1/29/13 at 7:05am
post #2951 of 3146
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Originally Posted by chanc View Post

"the most critical thing when setting up a TV is to have overall brightness at a comfortable level, set contrast, brightness, and gamma so that you get an even gradation across the board and avoid black and white crush" Bill, easier said than done. I am having a hell of a problem setting up my projector to avoid black crush.

I just popped in my Planet Earth and Life BD to test your settings again (using the lower contrast and backlight) and the pictures are outstanding. CNET used a gamma of 2 so I lowered to 1, and fouled around with Br, Cn to get a decent picture. thanks again for sharing your settings. My set is a 844, but the only difference to the 632 is the 3D chip so your settings seem to work fine..

Madison! I'm in Hamden... got my set at Best Buy in North Haven! smile.gif
post #2952 of 3146
War Eagle CT, Wondered where you were smile.gif I did not get the fantastic deal you got. Bought mine before the price went down. There was no problem with my RC Power button. Try Billdag settings, the best so far for me.
post #2953 of 3146
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

The conversation went very well, but....

There is an insurance fee that you will be charged. He said between 1.5% and 2%.

He swore that the unit was in stock and that it would ship immediately. I've read of people being told that and it not happening.

He was very polite, but was certainly trying to get me to purchase right then. He told me the price was ready to jump up. It has since gone down.

I told him that I wanted to know everything up front before I purchased.

I am not afraid to take a chance. If I buy from them, I will document the conversations and expect there to be hassles.

They don't want bad reviews on Reseller Ratings. I think they manufacture some of those ratings themselves BTW.

Best of luck. Expect a call from them.

Jack

I actually got a call this morning after playing phone tag yesterday and attempting to leave a message but his mailbox was full. As soon as I answered the phone I should have know it was going to be bad. He was arguing and cussing with one of his co-workers about DSL routers being down, I was literally on the phone for 10 seconds and said hello 3 times while he was going back and forth with this guy. He finally answered me and I could still hear the other guy going off in the background.......very unprofessional. He then began upselling me on shipping as well as warranty and everything else. He was super pushy and I just didn't feel comfortable with him. He literally started getting mad at me on the phone when I didn't want his upselling. I basically told him to cancel my order and I would order it from someone with a little more respect and professionalism. I definitely will not be doing business with them now or in the future!

--wes
post #2954 of 3146
For those that got Best Buy to price match. What price did they match? Will they match the lowest price you find and then add tax? or will they do it all inclusive since shipping is free from most online retailers?


I'd prefer to just go local at this point.

--wes
post #2955 of 3146
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Originally Posted by chanc View Post

War Eagle CT, Wondered where you were smile.gif I did not get the fantastic deal you got. Bought mine before the price went down. There was no problem with my RC Power button. Try Billdag settings, the best so far for me.
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Originally Posted by wesmanz View Post

For those that got Best Buy to price match. What price did they match? Will they match the lowest price you find and then add tax? or will they do it all inclusive since shipping is free from most online retailers?


I'd prefer to just go local at this point.

--wes

Yes they added tax. They originally matched J&R's price for me for $3699.99 plus tax. Then yesterday I went in there and asked them to match it to their new sale price of $3499.99 plus tax.

Chanc, how long have you had your set? I am using ska916jedi's settings from post 2954 with a few tweaks... everyone in my house seems to like these better. No one in the house is a videophile, though, so most people on here would not prefer my settings as they're probably too bright.
post #2956 of 3146
For Costco members, they have the 80in 633U for $3339.99 from 1/26 to 2/3. Add applicable taxes and you also have 2nd additional year warranty. I saw a couple at my warehouse but you can have it shipped free online as well.
post #2957 of 3146
don't forget costco 5 yr extended warrenty for $99 and an additional year if you use their american express card


jrgo43
post #2958 of 3146
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Originally Posted by jrgo43 View Post

don't forget costco 5 yr extended warrenty for $99 and an additional year if you use their american express card

jrgo43

Ah yes, good one. I'll also add that you also get 1% cash back using the Costco Amex card. In addition, you will also get 2% reward for Executive Membership. Right there it's $100 CB between the two rewards.
post #2959 of 3146
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Originally Posted by wesmanz View Post

I actually got a call this morning after playing phone tag yesterday and attempting to leave a message but his mailbox was full. As soon as I answered the phone I should have know it was going to be bad. He was arguing and cussing with one of his co-workers about DSL routers being down, I was literally on the phone for 10 seconds and said hello 3 times while he was going back and forth with this guy. He finally answered me and I could still hear the other guy going off in the background.......very unprofessional. He then began upselling me on shipping as well as warranty and everything else. He was super pushy and I just didn't feel comfortable with him. He literally started getting mad at me on the phone when I didn't want his upselling. I basically told him to cancel my order and I would order it from someone with a little more respect and professionalism. I definitely will not be doing business with them now or in the future!

--wes

Wes,

I fully expected that if I used East Coast, there would be a hassle.

This is based on other reviews I heard.

I am willing to pay more to not have the hassle, but at least for the 90" TV (which I'm considering) Best Buy cannot price match.

I DID find an internet dealer that I truse. I purchased about $5K of other goods from him over the last few weeks (TV will be the last).

So far, he is 100%.

I will be buying my TV through him.
post #2960 of 3146
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

Wes,

I fully expected that if I used East Coast, there would be a hassle.

This is based on other reviews I heard.

I am willing to pay more to not have the hassle, but at least for the 90" TV (which I'm considering) Best Buy cannot price match.

I DID find an internet dealer that I truse. I purchased about $5K of other goods from him over the last few weeks (TV will be the last).

So far, he is 100%.

I will be buying my TV through him.

That's the feeling I got from him as well....very used car salesmanish. It just turned me off as soon as he actually started talking to me(once he was done with his arguing)

I may just get Best Buy to price match J&R or I might go the Costco route. The local sales tax option sucks tho.....almost 10% more eek.gif

--wes
post #2961 of 3146
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Originally Posted by BodegaBay View Post

Ah yes, good one. I'll also add that you also get 1% cash back using the Costco Amex card. In addition, you will also get 2% reward for Executive Membership. Right there it's $100 CB between the two rewards.

New here, btw I just got the display from a costco in NC for 2800 (+99 for the warranty and taxes). Hooked it up last night and impressed. I need to try the settings above, but really excited to move away from my 3 year old DLP. So if you are new a Costco and you don't see any boxed up, but you see a display, if you might want to check to see if they will sell the display.
post #2962 of 3146
Does anyone know the box dimensions? I'm looking to pick one up from my local Costco but don't know if it will fit into the back of my truck or if I'd need to remove the lid on the bed.

--wes
post #2963 of 3146
Anyone else when you are off to the side, and I mean walking a few feet from the screen, does it have a red tint to it until you walk by the center?
post #2964 of 3146
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Check page 32 of your manual:

You can output digital audio to an AV amplifier or
similar device whose DIGITAL AUDIO INPUT terminal
is connected to the DIGITAL AUDIO OUTPUT terminal
on the TV. Please select an audio output format
compatible with the audio format of the program you
are watching and the equipment connected.
PCM: The optical output terminal outputs audio signal
in PCM form. If your digital audio system does not
support Dolby Digital, select "PCM".
Dolby Digital: The optical output terminal outputs audio
signal in Dolby Digital form. It reproduces sound from
surround program of digital.

Did they move this option? Manual says it should be under System Options > Input Terminal Setting > Audio Setup. But that menu isn't there on my TV. I've checked for updates and it says I've got the latest software. I've tried different HDMI inputs, same results. I only get 2 channel sound from the Digital Optical Output, which is a bummer because my surround receiver doesn't have the option to correct for sync issues. So going through the TV to the receiver is the only way to make it work. Any ideas?
post #2965 of 3146
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Originally Posted by War Eagle CT View Post


Yes they added tax. They originally matched J&R's price for me for $3699.99 plus tax. Then yesterday I went in there and asked them to match it to their new sale price of $3499.99 plus tax.

Lol I originally went to BB to match J&R at $3599 and the manager wouldn't do it and I kept on her and said they are an authorized dealer and i know that for fact because I entered their zip code on Sharp's web site. She finally said ok and then said nope. J&R shows out of stock. I said ok no problem I know it's coming down anyway for the Super Bowl and sure it enough I caught it at BB for $3499 and went for it last night at a different BB store as they were out of stock on a monitor i was also shopping for.
post #2966 of 3146
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Originally Posted by wesmanz View Post

Does anyone know the box dimensions? I'm looking to pick one up from my local Costco but don't know if it will fit into the back of my truck or if I'd need to remove the lid on the bed.

--wes


12" x 49" x 80"

The one at Costco is the newer 633U and is the same dimensions. If you're not in a hurry to get it for this weekend, why not buy it from Costco's online store. It's free shipping, afterall. Remember, the $1,000 instant rebate sale ends this Sunday on 2/3 so you better move on it. Already my local warehouse had none left when I came back in today. YMMV

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post #2967 of 3146
I got mine from BB for $3444.00. They priced matched an online ad I printed out no questions asked. Maybe it's because I look a little intimidating.
post #2968 of 3146
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Originally Posted by jcantanixon View Post

Did they move this option? Manual says it should be under System Options > Input Terminal Setting > Audio Setup. But that menu isn't there on my TV. I've checked for updates and it says I've got the latest software. I've tried different HDMI inputs, same results. I only get 2 channel sound from the Digital Optical Output, which is a bummer because my surround receiver doesn't have the option to correct for sync issues. So going through the TV to the receiver is the only way to make it work. Any ideas?

Okay, I found the option. It's only there when you're on the TV Input. It allows you to choose between PCM and Dolby Digital. So now it works for OTA (which I don't use) and Apps, but not for HDMI. I found a note in the manual that says the TV will only output two channel PCM if you're using an HDMI source. That's just ridiculous. So now I have to choose between the picture and audio being out of sync or being satisfied with 2 ch sound. ARGH.

Any suggestions for a decent receiver that does sync delays? My Onkyo HTIB doesn't have that option.
post #2969 of 3146
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Originally Posted by jcantanixon View Post

Did they move this option? Manual says it should be under System Options > Input Terminal Setting > Audio Setup. But that menu isn't there on my TV. I've checked for updates and it says I've got the latest software. I've tried different HDMI inputs, same results. I only get 2 channel sound from the Digital Optical Output, which is a bummer because my surround receiver doesn't have the option to correct for sync issues. So going through the TV to the receiver is the only way to make it work. Any ideas?

Posted after you found problem
Edited by dacbeth - 1/30/13 at 6:11pm
post #2970 of 3146
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Originally Posted by jcantanixon View Post

Okay, I found the option. It's only there when you're on the TV Input. It allows you to choose between PCM and Dolby Digital. So now it works for OTA (which I don't use) and Apps, but not for HDMI. I found a note in the manual that says the TV will only output two channel PCM if you're using an HDMI source. That's just ridiculous. So now I have to choose between the picture and audio being out of sync or being satisfied with 2 ch sound. ARGH.

Any suggestions for a decent receiver that does sync delays? My Onkyo HTIB doesn't have that option.

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