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post #2971 of 3146
1/30/13 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Sure - happy to oblige. Please keep in mind the following:
(1) I tend to like a brighter cooler picture than the standard 6500K Movie mode. I have tried calibrating my set with Spectra-Cal, iScan Duo CMS, and X-Rite i1 sensor but didn't like the muted display much.
(2) I am purposely allowing a slight bit of white crush by raising the contrast over +31 (which seldom, if ever, shows up in actual content) to allow me to lower the Back-light a couple of clicks further while maintaining desired brightness and reducing the black floor level. I'm just experimenting with this now but the Black level is VERY satisfying with this setting.
(3) I'm a tinkerer so I play with my settings quite a bit.
(4) Don't use Cable Programming to judge your settings. I find they are all over the map depending on content/channel/type.

billdag settings:

AV MODE: STANDARD
OPC: Off
Backlight: -5 (WAS -2)
Contrast: +34 (WAS +31)
Brightness: +1
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1

--Advanced sub-menu

C.M.S. -Hue
R: +4
Y: 0
G: 0
C: 0
B: 0
M: 0

C.M.S. -Saturation
R: -6
Y: -6
G: 0
C: 0
B: 0
M: 0

C.M.S. -Value
R: 0
Y: 0
G: 0
C: -0
B: 0
M: 0

Color Temp: MID-Low
R Gain (LO): 0
G Gain (LO):0
B Gain (LO): 0
R Gain (HI): -2
G Gain (HI): 0
B Gain (HI): 0

Motion Enhancement: 120HZ HIGH OR OFF (I TURN IT OFF FOR SPORTS)
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma Adjustment: +1
Black Level: [grayed out]
Film Mode: STD (AVOIDS IRREGULAR 3/2 JUDDER WHILE MAINTAINING 24 FPS) OR ADV. HIGH - DEPENDING ON FILM TYPE. I like smoothing but Sharp's interpolated frames can sometimes make a real mess of it.
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
Range of OPC: [any]

Thanks for the setting Billdag. I've got to say, I've tried about a dozen different settings and I prefer yours the best. You also mentioned you use Game mode for your HTPC. Do you every stream movies from your HTPC? And would be willing to post your Game mode settings as well? Thanks!
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post #2972 of 3146
1/30/13 at 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by BodegaBay View Post

12" x 49" x 80"

The one at Costco is the newer 633U and is the same dimensions. If you're not in a hurry to get it for this weekend, why not buy it from Costco's online store. It's free shipping, afterall. Remember, the $1,000 instant rebate sale ends this Sunday on 2/3 so you better move on it. Already my local warehouse had none left when I came back in today. YMMV

633u.jpg 1467k .jpg file

Thanks for the dimensions.

I'm not in a hurry other than wanting to get the lower price. I would rather not deal with shipping, I'll be paying the same price regardless so I'd rather just pick it up myself. If my local warehouse is out (there are actually two within 10-15 mins of my house.) I will go the shipping route.

--wes
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post #2973 of 3146
1/30/13 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by kasm View Post

Thanks for the setting Billdag. I've got to say, I've tried about a dozen different settings and I prefer yours the best. You also mentioned you use Game mode for your HTPC. Do you every stream movies from your HTPC? And would be willing to post your Game mode settings as well? Thanks!
The Game Mode Settings I haven't bothered to play much with outside of the backlight/contrast/brightness settings. I would say that the settings I use for Standard should work about the same for game mode (except for the grayed out ones, of course). No I haven't been streaming movies on it so far. I'm using Netflix quite a bit these days. I also have a little WDTV Live Plus media player with about 200 Hi-Def movies on it, most of them converted and shrunk by me using AnyDVD-HD and BDRebuilder.smile.gif
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post #2974 of 3146
1/30/13 at 10:33pm
Here's what I think is best (with DirecTV), but I have a slight out of sync issue :/

Mode: Game
OPC : Off
Backlight: -3
Contrast: +30
Brightness: +2
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
-Advanced-
HueR: +4
Y: 0
G: 0
C: 0
B: 0
M: 0
Saturation
R: +1
Y: 0
G: 0
C: 0
B: +6
M: 0
Value All 0's
Color Temp: Mid-Low
All 0's
Motion Enhancement: Off
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Film: Off
DNR: Off
Monochrome: Off
Range of OPC: N/A

I don't think I can use this mode for blurays for some reason.
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post #2975 of 3146
1/31/13 at 5:38am
@ska916jedi, dare I suggest you try movie or standard mode for BD smile.gif. I actually heard good feedback about your settings but have not tried them because of the game mode.
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post #2976 of 3146
1/31/13 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by chanc View Post

@ska916jedi, dare I suggest you try movie or standard mode for BD smile.gif. I actually heard good feedback about your settings but have not tried them because of the game mode.

What do you suggest for settings then for Movie or Standard?
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post #2977 of 3146
1/31/13 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by ska916jedi View Post

Here's what I think is best (with DirecTV), but I have a slight out of sync issue :/

I don't think I can use this mode for blurays for some reason.
Chad B and other professional calibrators have warned us that you cannot use ANY POSITIVE SETTINGS under the saturation settings as they will not track properly.
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post #2978 of 3146
1/31/13 at 12:35pm
Well, 4 of the cms sat settings he did for me were positive. Same for cms val.
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post #2979 of 3146
1/31/13 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Chad B and other professional calibrators have warned us that you cannot use ANY POSITIVE SETTINGS under the saturation settings as they will not track properly.

So... put them at 0?
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post #2980 of 3146
1/31/13 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Chad B and other professional calibrators have warned us that you cannot use ANY POSITIVE SETTINGS under the saturation settings as they will not track properly.

well billdag i put your settings in, and i must say not bad..... not bad at all.
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post #2981 of 3146
1/31/13 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Chad B and other professional calibrators have warned us that you cannot use ANY POSITIVE SETTINGS under the saturation settings as they will not track properly.
That's not exactly what I said. I was talking about the red value adjustment, not all the others. Even that control can be adjusted with care. It does not automatically ruin the calibration to turn Red value to +3, for example. It just has some odd characteristics you have to be aware of. Best results are obtained calibrating at 75% sat / 75% levels.
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post #2982 of 3146
2/1/13 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Chad B View Post

That's not exactly what I said. I was talking about the red value adjustment, not all the others. Even that control can be adjusted with care. It does not automatically ruin the calibration to turn Red value to +3, for example. It just has some odd characteristics you have to be aware of. Best results are obtained calibrating at 75% sat / 75% levels.
Thanks for the clarification Chad.
You may want to update Post # 46 where you stated: "There were no peculiarities or hiccups in the 632U's calibration, other than some slightly finicky CMS adjustments. I found that raising the CMS Saturation adjustment of any color caused color nonlinearities, even with the contrast lowered, so I avoided positive Saturation adjustments."
I assume Sharp made some changes in their initial setups - not unusual for a product that has been around for an astounding 1-1/2 Yrs and is still a current model.smile.gif
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post #2983 of 3146
2/1/13 at 1:30pm
Picked my 633 up from Costco a few minutes ago....pretty good deal @$3399 + $99 for the 3yr extended warranty. I'll be leaving town on Sunday so it'll have to wait until the following week to get mounted up and calibrated!eek.gif

--wes
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post #2984 of 3146
2/1/13 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

Thanks for the clarification Chad.
You may want to update Post # 46 where you stated: "There were no peculiarities or hiccups in the 632U's calibration, other than some slightly finicky CMS adjustments. I found that raising the CMS Saturation adjustment of any color caused color nonlinearities, even with the contrast lowered, so I avoided positive Saturation adjustments."
I assume Sharp made some changes in their initial setups - not unusual for a product that has been around for an astounding 1-1/2 Yrs and is still a current model.smile.gif
Sure enough, thanks for the refresher. I will look into that further.
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post #2985 of 3146
2/1/13 at 8:59pm
One of the free once a year services of Best Buy Premier Silver status is a TV Calibration. Should one try it? If not happy one can always set back to factory, right?
Comments please.
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post #2986 of 3146
2/2/13 at 12:18am
Dacbeth, do yourself a favor and get a real calibrator that is local or grab one from this site that tours. Everybody has there own opinion but usually BB people don't know much. I go to a Magnolia in a BB in Chicago(Armitage) and I am usually surprised about how much I know as a casual "nerd" compared to what they know for a job. One guy told me they could no calibrate a Pro-141 as the TV is too old and they don't have the equipment anymore, then the next guy told me it would be no problem then called the calibrator while I was talking to him to make sure... The point is the people are hit and miss. Go independent local if you can.
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post #2987 of 3146
2/2/13 at 3:45pm
Does anyone happen to have the code for the DirecTV remote ?

--wes
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post #2988 of 3146
2/2/13 at 4:12pm
Dose reflections from the glossy black plastic bezel bother anyone?
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post #2989 of 3146
2/2/13 at 7:35pm
Will I notice any real difference in the 632 vs 633? Of course I don't even see the 633 on Costco website anymore.
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post #2990 of 3146
2/5/13 at 4:10pm
costco often gets a different model #, i suspect the 633 is costco's model # for the 632 anyone know?


jrgo43
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post #2991 of 3146
2/5/13 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by jrgo43 View Post

costco often gets a different model #, i suspect the 633 is costco's model # for the 632 anyone know?


jrgo43

Yes in some instances mfgs relabel their model numbers on electronic devices for Costco. This is done mainly so that the mfg retail sales channels doesn't have to price match club warehouse prices. I see it mostly on Panasonic Blu-ray/DVD players and plasma sets. However, in this case the 633U is indeed a Sharp retail model. It succeeds the 632 by adding new features such as the new Smart TV interface and Aquamotion 240. Costco online no longer has stock and therefore removed from their website.
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post #2992 of 3146
2/5/13 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by BodegaBay View Post

Yes in some instances mfgs relabel their model numbers on electronic devices for Costco. This is done mainly so that the mfg retail sales channels doesn't have to price match club warehouse prices. I see it mostly on Panasonic Blu-ray/DVD players and plasma sets. However, in this case the 633U is indeed a Sharp retail model. It succeeds the 632 by adding new features such as the new Smart TV interface and Aquamotion 240. Costco online no longer has stock and therefore removed from their website.
Costco regularly adds / removes the 633 from it's website , rather than show outta stock , So it's a keep check back thing.
I asked the store TV rep/clerk last summer if they were getting in anymore 633's (the Novato Ca. local store stock ) & the guy goes no , not gonna stock them anymore , 2 weeks later they had pallets of them .
I find this a lot on various items @ Costco the local stores never know what's comming on the next Semi , so I take what a clerk even a manager has to say with a grain of salt .
one item they had Seagate 3 TB Hard Drives on a MFGers closeout special price ,even listed a newer model coming out as the reason for the deep discount , 2 months later again pallets of them
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post #2993 of 3146
2/5/13 at 4:59pm
Agreed that it might comeback but it may be a few months -if ever again- will you see that steep of a discount for the 80in. It keeps their "treasure hunt" mystique wink.gif
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post #2994 of 3146
2/5/13 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by BodegaBay View Post

Agreed that it might comeback but it may be a few months -if ever again- will you see that steep of a discount for the 80in. It keeps their "treasure hunt" mystique wink.gif
Nah , I'd be willing to bet it's a matter of weeks , the new 80"ers for 2013 are not to hit until late spring/early summer . They're outta stock now due to the Super Bowl . Next production cycle , they will be back but it will be one last time thou .
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post #2995 of 3146
2/6/13 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by BodegaBay View Post

in this case the 633U is indeed a Sharp retail model. It succeeds the 632 by adding new features such as the new Smart TV interface and Aquamotion 240. Costco online no longer has stock and therefore removed from their website.

It succeeds the 632? Sweet, so where can I buy a 633? Oh yeah, that's right..only at Costco and Sams Club.

AFAIK, the 633 is a warehouse only model. The only difference is the Aquomotion 240, and I am pretty sure that's software, not hardware. I'm not sure what you mean by the "new Smart TV interface" because I went back and forth (I have a Costco and Best Buy one block apart) before I bought a couple weeks ago, and the menus were all the same.

I bought from BB because they price matched the Costco, free delivery, and gave me 2 years no interest financing. The build date on my 632 is Dec 2012, so it doesn't get much newer than that.
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post #2996 of 3146
2/6/13 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by jcantanixon View Post

It succeeds the 632? Sweet, so where can I buy a 633? Oh yeah, that's right..only at Costco and Sams Club.

AFAIK, the 633 is a warehouse only model. The only difference is the Aquomotion 240, and I am pretty sure that's software, not hardware. I'm not sure what you mean by the "new Smart TV interface" because I went back and forth (I have a Costco and Best Buy one block apart) before I bought a couple weeks ago, and the menus were all the same.

I bought from BB because they price matched the Costco, free delivery, and gave me 2 years no interest financing. The build date on my 632 is Dec 2012, so it doesn't get much newer than that.
" The Smart TV Interface " is a firmware update on the 632 & yes 240 is about the only difference & that is a software Tweak .
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post #2997 of 3146
2/6/13 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by jcantanixon View Post

It succeeds the 632? Sweet, so where can I buy a 633? Oh yeah, that's right..only at Costco and Sams Club.

AFAIK, the 633 is a warehouse only model. The only difference is the Aquomotion 240, and I am pretty sure that's software, not hardware. I'm not sure what you mean by the "new Smart TV interface" because I went back and forth (I have a Costco and Best Buy one block apart) before I bought a couple weeks ago, and the menus were all the same.

I bought from BB because they price matched the Costco, free delivery, and gave me 2 years no interest financing. The build date on my 632 is Dec 2012, so it doesn't get much newer than that.

Hey I was trying to answer your question but evidently I was mistaken. I thought the 633 had the new Smart Central TV user interface and therefore the successor to the 632. My mistake. It's NOT newer and with only a software motion enhancement. Yep my bad. But hey next year if you have any REAL Sharp questions, go ahead and type it out here. I'll try to care enough to ask the Sharp reps at CES.

But the Costco info was for people here who don't mind the savings at their warehouse, actually have cash to pay for the unit up front and don't want to DICKer with twenty year olds in blue shirts.

And oh, that Onkyo HTIB of yours? Yeah, that's.......sweet.
Edited by BodegaBay - 2/6/13 at 8:17pm
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post #2998 of 3146
2/6/13 at 5:35pm
I was wrong as well there are different levels of Smart Central Interface neither the 633 632 have the top level , Sharp is very vague about them ;-)
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post #2999 of 3146
2/6/13 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

" The Smart TV Interface " is a firmware update on the 632 & yes 240 is about the only difference & that is a software Tweak .

The Remotes are different and operate differently. On the 633 remote the 632 Aquos Net button is the AAL button, Aquos Advantage Live. To get Aquos Net on the 633 you must go to apps. On the 632 it is the opposite, to get Aquos Advantage you must use the app button. I know because a 633 remote was in the box with my 632. Consequently, there was no way for me to get Aquos Net because Aquos Net is not available through the App button on the 632. Sharp sent me the correct remote.
Edited by dacbeth - 2/6/13 at 7:33pm
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post #3000 of 3146
2/6/13 at 6:24pm
Any more people with 33s post there tv settings? Game mode is the best, but has out of sync issues. Standard is what I use (the one posted on the top of this page), but I don't like the motion / choppy lag. I even turned off Film and motion. Game Mode doesn't have the motion problem, it's very smooth like it should be, but the audio is slighty off. >frown.gif
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