OWNERS Thread for the Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector - Page 51

Ummm, what?
You need to read it a bit more carefully

"Let me put it this way, small or high gain screens notwithstanding, this Panasonic goes further to meeting my demands for 3D brightness, than the all more expensive JVC, Sony, Mitsubishi, and the Optoma HD8300. Basically, so far, only the the lower cost, more family room friendly 3D capable projectors like the Optoma HD33 and Epson HC3010 are even comparable, in terms of brightness, of the 3D projector to arrive so far."

E.g. "Stereoscopic player" and nVidia's "3D Vision player"

I didn't realize SP could now output frame-packed format. I'm still running 1.6.1. When did they add that? I need to upgrade.

Well, with Nvidias 3DTV installed and using the nVidia 3D vision output option in SP, it doesn't show a an upscaled 960 width image.

Is this correct ?

Interesting! It looks like it's the nVidia hardware and software performing the magic. The nVidia 3DTV User's Guide says:

"If you use other players such as the 3dtv Stereoscopic Player to watch 3D
movies, you must switch the mode from any other rendering type (such as
side/side) into NVIDIA 3D Vision mode. If you leave it in side/side mode, NVIDIA 3DTV Play software will not work."

So it looks like SP alone will not do the trick. You need the nVidia 3DTV Play package as well.

You're right, I was on the way out the door and didn't read very carefully. The quote I was looking at was..........

"Projecting a full 100" diagonal 16:9 image Studiotek 130 (gain 1.3), Medium still left, me wanting more brightness, but I found High setting to do the trick. On that sized, normal screen, it's hardly "Bright"! but it's also not "Dim". Plenty of brightness if you go with a smaller screen, or one with higher gain."

I am using a 16:9, 106" 1.1 gain screen and am satisfied with the brightness with the glasses on the medium setting and in ECO mode. I assume the High setting he refers to here is the glasses set to light. I would switch out of ECO before I would go to "light" on the glasses and I probably will do that as I get more hours on the bulb.

If I rip my 3D Blu-ray DVD's to the hard drive, can I play them with this software? Currently I rip my regular DVD via DVDFab and use XBMC to manage and play them. I'd love to start doing this with my Blu-rays.

Yes, that's what I do. There is a software and forum dedicated to it at biohemmet.se. I use a different set of command line tools I am more familiar with; disks usually need several hours to decode.

The quality can be said to be identical to blu-rays: left view and audio can be ripped to be identical, right view needs decoding and reencoding, but bitrate can be set higher than original to keep reencoding artifacts unnoticeable.

Eastporters.ca also has a really good price on the ae7000 for Canada.

I am using Epson TW2900 with 1:1 gain standart fixed frame screen.
If i buy AE7000 do i have to change the screen for 3D too?

I bought one from them for a friend who is "scared" to order anything off the net lol. I also got my last 2 projectors and multiple screen form them. Great customer service.

it is for Australia, the Avatar starter pack (movie + 2 pair glasses) is included with the projector for the first couple of months or thereabouts

most online retailers have the unit listed for around A$3200 (US$3230), it's US$280++ for the starter pack so it's one of the rare times we are not paying exorbitantly higher prices for our projectors here in Oz, in fact we're slightly cheaper

pretty much all active shutter projectors will suffer massive brightness loss once you turn the glasses on, it's just the nature of the technology
you should be able to adjust the levels with much more flexibility on this projector than you can for say a DLP. The much lower contrast ratio on a DLP, such as the Acer h5360 (3200:1) which I used to own, means you'll get a very washed out image if you bump up the levels even a moderate amount with white levels being glaringly bright compared to the blacks and losing heaps of detail as a result. This should not be the case with the 300,000:1 Panny but seeing that mine hasn't arrived yet I can't confirm.

We do feel privledged sometimes

The 300,000:1 quoted here is is the bs dynamic contrast. Native contrast will be a lot lower.

I stopped by my local electronics store on the way home from work yesterday. Through the curtained doorway of their demo room I could see a decent image projected onto a 106" screen. When I went in to have a better look I saw a second image projected right beside it that totally blew me away. The first projector was the AE4000...the second, to my amazement, was a brand new AE7000. Wow!!! I know; bulb hours, calibration, etc, etc. This was definately not a scientific comparison but even so, LCD just became a viable option for my next projector upgrade. I couldn't stop watching. I am looking forward to the completion of Art's review at Projector Reviews.

what is the 3D patch you are referring to?

What I mean is a full .iso rip of a bluray, this will offer the same experience as a bluray player as it stays in the native format.

SBS is typically used in downsampled rips only.

Sharks 3d is a prime example, I grabbed the .iso and it was night and day better than the SBS content I have seen ripped from Imax films.

I use Power DVD 10 for all my 3d PC needs.

Lots of 3d tweaking options, works quite well.

Well it is not 100% complete but it is up. It needs some editing though because I do not know why he refers to sub $2k projector. Quite sure he means sub $3k.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/pana...7000/index.php

here's the link to the review.

THANKS for the LINK

I find that Art's finalized reviews sometimes look like rough drafts but that doesn't detract from the value of his opinion. Though the AE7000 vs AE4000 section is blank, it seems as if he expects little difference between the two which is a bit disappointing. 3D has stalled, and in some cases reversed, the evolution of 2D performance.

I think the big thing is how much it outperforms the 4000 in 2D. 3D is good, everyone knows that

I disagree. Many of the technical innovations targeted at 3D performance, like increased brightness and faster panels, have positive benefits for 2D viewing.

Have to agree, 2D may be getting to he point of diminishing returns. Where 95% of the public will never noticed any improvements made in contrast or color. 3D on the other hand has room for noticable improvement and improvment in 3D should never hurt 2D, probably make it better. I think it is a pretty small percentage of people that are really obsessed with the tech nubmers and gaining that 1% improvment in contrast or brightness. The rest of us enjoy our projectors and watch lots of movies, not test screens

Hey everyone! Just got my unit and I'm pretty excited. A couple questions:

1) What is the best audio delay time is for the different frame creation modes?
2) Can I set my PC that's hooked up to the projector to run at 120hz?

2D Analysis:

I agree. I owned the 3000, 4000 and now the 7000. It was said there was little difference between the 3000 and 4000 but the blacks were better with the 4000 and it was sharper.

I have noticed a relevant increase in black levels with the 7000 - not earth shattering but see my previous comment about reaching the limits on black levels without other trade-offs. Projector Central said it was the equal of the Sony VPL-HW30ES or better:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/shoo...ony_hw30es.htm

What Art seems to have missed is the noticeable increase in sharpness/clarity no doubt due to new 240 panels. This is the first thing I noticed compared to my 4000. It is now very plasma like on live events, whether or not you think that his good or not. He also does not mention what I see as more balanced color and deeper saturation.

My view is the 7000 is about 30% better than the 4000 in overall image quality with more or less increases in specific areas.Perhaps having lived with the 4000 for 2 years, it's easier for me to see these things than Art who may not have seen a 4000 for awhile.

As to comparing it to the other projectors, the 4000 fared quite well with some of those mentioned so it is logical to say the 7000 is a step up overall, my opinion.

Like anything else, you can find a product that excels in one area or another but then there are products which are balanced in all areas and that is the 7000.

Okay I'm excited, finally going to install the 7000. What is your opinion on throw district for best display at 120diag. Min district is around 11, but I'm thinking 14 would be better. Thoughts?