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post #3661 of 4344
6/15/12 at 8:31pm
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For those of you that have this projector and have it mounted either above or below your screens, do you have problems using the lens memory function? I understand that with the Panny 4000, the projector had to be positioned within the parameters of the screen to property utilize the lens memory function. Is that the same with the Panny 7000? I cannot find reference to positioning restrictions for lens memory in the user manual. Thanks.
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post #3662 of 4344
6/15/12 at 9:10pm
Is anybody here using this projector with a Da-Lite High Power screen? It is advertised as a 2.4 Gain screen. It sounds like, from reading the last few posts, that 1.3 would be good enough for 3D, but I am a real 3D enthusiast. I want the best 3D available. I'm thinking that I can always lower the brightness and enter eco mode if it is too bright.

I'd love to hear the thoughts from anyone that is actually using the 7000U and Da-Lite High Power screen combo.
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post #3663 of 4344
6/16/12 at 5:46am
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

What happened with the flickering issue? Has this been solved for everyone who's had this problem? I haven't seen anything on this in some time.

We had the flickering issue since almost the beginning of use which was back in December 2011. A few weeks ago we returned the projector to the Panasonic repair facility. I was told by the folks there that they have seen several returns and that its because of a bad batch of some of the bulbs used in the earlier made ae7000's. They replaced my bulb and I have had no additional flickering problems. I am a heavy user of the projector BTW.

I would also like to point out that I shipped my projector on a Thursday and they fixed the issue and had it back on my doorstep a few days later on Tuesday. They have a great turn around and i am very pleased with the service. They even put the projector in a additional box and bubble rap (I sent it packaged in 2 boxes already for protection). they also didnt mess with many of my settings which I was happy to see.

My husband and I are very happy with our Panasonic purchase and that says a lot since we are very picky when it comes to HT. My husband is picky about the sound system and Im hard to please when it comes to the video side of things (I guess thats a good partner pairing smile.gif )
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post #3664 of 4344
6/16/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by TowerGrove View Post

We had the flickering issue since almost the beginning of use which was back in December 2011. A few weeks ago we returned the projector to the Panasonic repair facility. I was told by the folks there that they have seen several returns and that its because of a bad batch of some of the bulbs used in the earlier made ae7000's. They replaced my bulb and I have had no additional flickering problems. I am a heavy user of the projector BTW.
I would also like to point out that I shipped my projector on a Thursday and they fixed the issue and had it back on my doorstep a few days later on Tuesday. They have a great turn around and i am very pleased with the service. They even put the projector in a additional box and bubble rap (I sent it packaged in 2 boxes already for protection). they also didnt mess with many of my settings which I was happy to see.
My husband and I are very happy with our Panasonic purchase and that says a lot since we are very picky when it comes to HT. My husband is picky about the sound system and Im hard to please when it comes to the video side of things (I guess thats a good partner pairing smile.gif )

Thanks for the information. I'm glad to hear it worked out for you.
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post #3665 of 4344
6/16/12 at 9:49am
So I've had this pt-ae7000u since december last year. Everything is ran through an Integra Receiver DTR70.2 then to the panny. When I try to play a video via Powerdvd and my HTPC I will get an odd a noticable stutter at a constant interval. I'm thinking it's a frame rate issue of some kind. Is the HTPC and panny suppose to be auto adjusting for the frame rate? Sometimes it will cause the audio to be out of sync. Just wondering what the settings should be or what I need to do to make this work.
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D.
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post #3666 of 4344
6/16/12 at 10:22am
Read back through the last 10's of pages and you will see me and a number of other people discussing this issue along with details of the ongoing support interaction I am having on it. I tend to call it "frame dropping" so search for that and see if one of my descriptions of it matches what you are seeing.
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post #3667 of 4344
6/16/12 at 3:41pm
I've got about 10 hours on the ae7000 and am finding the image a bit soft. I am running in cinema1 picture mod with default settings. Any suggestions for sharpening the picture a bit? Anyone care to share their settings?
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post #3668 of 4344
6/16/12 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by xnaron View Post

I've got about 10 hours on the ae7000 and am finding the image a bit soft. I am running in cinema1 picture mod with default settings. Any suggestions for sharpening the picture a bit? Anyone care to share their settings?

Sharpness -advanced, H +1 V+2


And then my personal preference under picture, adanced, detail clarity +7
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post #3669 of 4344
6/16/12 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by kthejoker20 View Post

Sharpness -advanced, H +1 V+2
And then my personal preference under picture, adanced, detail clarity +7

Thanks I will try that!
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post #3670 of 4344
6/16/12 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by ckenisell View Post

Is anybody here using this projector with a Da-Lite High Power screen? It is advertised as a 2.4 Gain screen. It sounds like, from reading the last few posts, that 1.3 would be good enough for 3D, but I am a real 3D enthusiast. I want the best 3D available. I'm thinking that I can always lower the brightness and enter eco mode if it is too bright.
I'd love to hear the thoughts from anyone that is actually using the 7000U and Da-Lite High Power screen combo.
The Panasonic on a 100" High Power screen, projector set to Normal picture mode which is it's best bright mode looks pretty good in 3D, brightness is good and the picture is dynamic. There's no doubt the High Power screen is ideal for active shutter 3D and I highly recommend it nor is it expensive, but if you're looking for the best 3D projecotor in the Pana price range than you should be looking at the Epson 5010 or Benqw7000 they can do it better.
Edited by nirvy111 - 6/16/12 at 7:15pm
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post #3671 of 4344
6/16/12 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by nirvy111 View Post


Unless you're a gamer(the Pana has low lag) and or you need motorised zoom then the Epson 5010 is the better projector. It's definately better for 3D as it has more lumens and less ghosting and some will say it's better in 2D aswell but that's more subjective I think.


The bottom line is both the Epson and Pana are very good 2D projectors within their price range and will light up 120" screen no problem in 2D, you would be happy with either but the Epson has the better 3D, so if that is important to you and you're not a gamer or require motorised zoom then buy the Epson.

Definitely better?
I heard it was horrific for ghosting and of course you can't use frame interpolation during 3D playback.
And why would 2D opinion be subjective and 3D opinion is something that is sworn on the bible? They're both opinions therefore they are both subjective.
Anyone wanting to compare them should simply organise a comparison at their nearest store, I wouldn't take notice of half the garbage you read on forums.

Every single 3D TV/projector I've seen has had ghosting to some degree, DLP has the least but they're not free from other issues like rainbow effect. I went to see Avengers at IMAX and there was obvious ghosting, I saw Prometheus at a non IMAX cinema last week and there was plenty of ghosting. It's inherent to the technology.
Edited by inefekt - 6/16/12 at 9:49pm
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post #3672 of 4344
6/16/12 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by Hyper_Eye View Post

Read back through the last 10's of pages and you will see me and a number of other people discussing this issue along with details of the ongoing support interaction I am having on it. I tend to call it "frame dropping" so search for that and see if one of my descriptions of it matches what you are seeing.

So I've done some more research and when I play a blu ray movie via powerdvd "play folder" it will come up stating that the current frame rate is not the same as the display would I like powerdvd to adjust to it. If I say no it has frame rate drop out issue. If I tell it to adjust, then the friggin audio is totally out of sync.
I'm lost on this and it getting really annoying. The integra is set to pass through.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
D.
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post #3673 of 4344
6/16/12 at 11:31pm
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Originally Posted by inefekt View Post

Definitely better?
I heard it was horrific for ghosting and of course you can't use frame interpolation during 3D playback.
And why would 2D opinion be subjective and 3D opinion is something that is sworn on the bible? They're both opinions therefore they are both subjective.
Anyone wanting to compare them should simply organise a comparison at their nearest store, I wouldn't take notice of half the garbage you read on forums.
Every single 3D TV/projector I've seen has had ghosting to some degree, DLP has the least but they're not free from other issues like rainbow effect. I went to see Avengers at IMAX and there was obvious ghosting, I saw Prometheus at a non IMAX cinema last week and there was plenty of ghosting. It's inherent to the technology.

How about 'maybe better'. 'Definitely' is too strong a word isn't it?
Edited by nirvy111 - 6/19/12 at 6:30am
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post #3674 of 4344
6/17/12 at 6:49am
Hello Panny 7000 owners - I am looking at this projector for an upgrade to the Epson 8350. I really don't care about 3D, just trying to get a good 2D image on a big screen. Will this projector have any issues with a 140" wide 2:35 screen? MLP & throw distance will be at 14', light controlled room, unity gain screen (Seymour AT XD screen hopefully). Concerned about the brightness on that size of screen. Thanks for the input.

David
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post #3675 of 4344
6/17/12 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Riker0007 View Post

So I've done some more research and when I play a blu ray movie via powerdvd "play folder" it will come up stating that the current frame rate is not the same as the display would I like powerdvd to adjust to it. If I say no it has frame rate drop out issue. If I tell it to adjust, then the friggin audio is totally out of sync.
I'm lost on this and it getting really annoying. The integra is set to pass through.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
D.

Some others that have experienced this issue have stated that setting the source to 50hz resolved it. This is obviously not difficult to do with an HTPC but I can't do that with the devices I am using. I would assume that you have some lip sync value set on your audio receiver as that is necessary no matter what. With the different settings that value is going to change. Out of curiosity, when the software automatically changes the frame rate what does it set it to?
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post #3676 of 4344
6/19/12 at 3:40am
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Originally Posted by Riker0007 View Post

So I've done some more research and when I play a blu ray movie via powerdvd "play folder" it will come up stating that the current frame rate is not the same as the display would I like powerdvd to adjust to it. If I say no it has frame rate drop out issue. If I tell it to adjust, then the friggin audio is totally out of sync.
I'm lost on this and it getting really annoying. The integra is set to pass through.

Just wanted to report I have the same issue mad.gif I drive the projector directly from Nvidia G...something 570 card, 23.98 Hz for most movies.

I have a theory that the issue may be caused by ASIC chip that Panasonic uses for frame interpolation. Since it's ASIC, they can't reprogram it, and it would be very expensive to replace motherboards on all sold projectors, if new versions of the chip are even fixed. So they may claim that they can't reproduce the problem...
(This is just a guess, totally unconfirmed and may be completely wrong.)
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post #3677 of 4344
6/19/12 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by Hyper_Eye View Post

Some others that have experienced this issue have stated that setting the source to 50hz resolved it. This is obviously not difficult to do with an HTPC but I can't do that with the devices I am using. I would assume that you have some lip sync value set on your audio receiver as that is necessary no matter what. With the different settings that value is going to change. Out of curiosity, when the software automatically changes the frame rate what does it set it to?

It sets it to 24p. Audio then becomes correctly synced but it will loose frames. If I tell it no, it will then be totally out of audio sync.
D.
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post #3678 of 4344
6/19/12 at 11:02pm
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I just received my 3rd gen panny 3D glasses and watched my first 3D movie. John carter. The 3d look ok, but the picture is incredibly dark. Some scenes were very difficult to see. My room is very dark and I use a neutral gain screen (1.0). I tried messing with the 3D options to no avail. Setting the 3D brightness from normal to light, make no difference at all. From normal to dark makes it real dark.

For now I have the brightness all boosted up and my contrast. I use cinema 2 and focu lens ON

I know that 3D looks darker than normal but this dark? I can't imagine enjoying this for too long.... Hope there is something I can do to get this brighter. As a matter or fact, all my movies could be a bit brighter.

Thanks

Ray
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post #3679 of 4344
6/19/12 at 11:03pm
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I just received my 3rd gen panny 3D glasses and watched my first 3D movie. John carter. The 3d look ok, but the picture is incredibly dark. Some scenes were very difficult to see. My room is very dark and I use a neutral gain screen (1.0). I tried messing with the 3D options to no avail. Setting the 3D brightness from normal to light, make no difference at all. From normal to dark makes it real dark.

For now I have the brightness all boosted up and my contrast. I use cinema 2 and focu lens ON

I know that 3D looks darker than normal but this dark? I can't imagine enjoying this for too long.... Hope there is something I can do to get this brighter. As a matter or fact, all my movies could be a bit brighter.

Thanks

Ray
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post #3680 of 4344
6/19/12 at 11:08pm
^It's pretty dim, which is why I returned my 3D glasses, well that and the image looked bad.

Try Normal Lamp mode.
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post #3681 of 4344
6/20/12 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by raehza View Post

Hi
I just received my 3rd gen panny 3D glasses and watched my first 3D movie. John carter. The 3d look ok, but the picture is incredibly dark. Some scenes were very difficult to see. My room is very dark and I use a neutral gain screen (1.0). I tried messing with the 3D options to no avail. Setting the 3D brightness from normal to light, make no difference at all. From normal to dark makes it real dark.
For now I have the brightness all boosted up and my contrast. I use cinema 2 and focu lens ON
I know that 3D looks darker than normal but this dark? I can't imagine enjoying this for too long.... Hope there is something I can do to get this brighter. As a matter or fact, all my movies could be a bit brighter.
Thanks
Ray

Hi,

I haven't purchased my 7000 yet (still on my 2000), but try this calculator to see if your setup is optimal for 3D at this point. Its the only one I've found that has provisions for 3D brightness based on projector, throw, screen gain, screen size etc. It looks like i'd have to go with at least a 1.3 Gain to get enough brightness from approximately 18-20' throw.

I'll get the 7000 regardless of the 3D performance (mostly for the kids) as I'd like to step up to a 150" 2.35:1 screen setup with the Zoom method .

Good Luck!
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post #3682 of 4344
6/20/12 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner View Post

^It's pretty dim, which is why I returned my 3D glasses, well that and the image looked bad.
Try Normal Lamp mode.


Are you saying it's the glasses? Any other recommendations?

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Originally Posted by foraye View Post

Hi,
I haven't purchased my 7000 yet (still on my 2000), but try this calculator to see if your setup is optimal for 3D at this point. Its the only one I've found that has provisions for 3D brightness based on projector, throw, screen gain, screen size etc. It looks like i'd have to go with at least a 1.3 Gain to get enough brightness from approximately 18-20' throw.
I'll get the 7000 regardless of the 3D performance (mostly for the kids) as I'd like to step up to a 150" 2.35:1 screen setup with the Zoom method .
Good Luck!

Thanks for the link! But I think I don't understand it very much. My PJ is about 20ft from my screen. 8 feet ceiling. About 130 inch diagonal screen. I have no idea how much zoom I am using. There is no "number" shown when I zoom in or out.

This is what it says at absolute brightest mode: "3D = 8fL (7fL @200 hrs)" . What does this mean?


Ray
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post #3683 of 4344
6/20/12 at 5:54pm
Try and adjust Dynamic Mode, and Glasses on Normal. I've found going to Light on the glasses induces a lot of ghosting.
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post #3684 of 4344
6/21/12 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by Pterodactyl View Post

Just wanted to report I have the same issue mad.gif I drive the projector directly from Nvidia G...something 570 card, 23.98 Hz for most movies.
I have a theory that the issue may be caused by ASIC chip that Panasonic uses for frame interpolation. Since it's ASIC, they can't reprogram it, and it would be very expensive to replace motherboards on all sold projectors, if new versions of the chip are even fixed. So they may claim that they can't reproduce the problem...
(This is just a guess, totally unconfirmed and may be completely wrong.)

I have been encouraging people who have this issue to call Panasonic and get a support case opened. When I called they asserted that the projector is not the likely cause because they have not received other complaints about this issue. When I ask in here about this issue I get a lot of people saying they have it to but none of them have called Panasonic. If you have this issue call them! They are not taking this problem seriously.
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post #3685 of 4344
6/21/12 at 5:32pm
I just got my Panny in the mail... Chillin in the box until Monday when my general contractor comes in to make a few updates to my HT room.
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post #3686 of 4344
6/21/12 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by Hyper_Eye View Post

I have been encouraging people who have this issue to call Panasonic and get a support case opened. When I called they asserted that the projector is not the likely cause because they have not received other complaints about this issue. When I ask in here about this issue I get a lot of people saying they have it to but none of them have called Panasonic. If you have this issue call them! They are not taking this problem seriously.

I did call them a few weeks ago and reported it.
They just said I should send it in, but I wanted to see if others had a fix or similar experience.
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post #3687 of 4344
6/21/12 at 11:14pm
Hi guys. Read couple of random posts about the panny ae7000u and now I'm worried that I might have made a mistake buying this projector on last Monday from visual apex. I hope visual apex got new batch the one with no issues because I'm going to take it to back to middle east where I live now so it will be hard to send it back and there is no way I can test it here. So please give me some advice thanks.
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6/21/12 at 11:49pm
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Originally Posted by puri1 View Post

Hi guys. Read couple of random posts about the panny ae7000u and now I'm worried that I might have made a mistake buying this projector on last Monday from visual apex. I hope visual apex got new batch the one with no issues because I'm going to take it to back to middle east where I live now so it will be hard to send it back and there is no way I can test it here. So please give me some advice thanks.

Any projector can have problems, it's just the luck of the draw I'm afraid. My Pana was a Feburary unit which is stamped on the side of the case and has run flawlessly for 600 hours, maybe the later machines don't have the problems of the earlier ones I'm not sure but my advice is not to worry about it. If it has warranty you can just send it back if it's not working properly, I'm pretty sure visual apex will take care of it, although you might have to cover the cost of shipping.
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post #3689 of 4344
6/22/12 at 12:17am
Thanks for the advice. I hope the One I bought will not have any problems, by the way how is visual apex reputation now ? Any suggestions on cheaper aftermarket universal 3d glasses ? Thanks
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6/22/12 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by puri1 View Post

Thanks for the advice. I hope the One I bought will not have any problems, by the way how is visual apex reputation now ? Any suggestions on cheaper aftermarket universal 3d glasses ? Thanks

Sony playstation 3d glasses. $50 a pair ($30 on sale if you lucky) and they work and feel great. You can buy them anywhere usually.

I have 2 pair and they work wonderfully with this PJ.
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