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post #3901 of 4344
good discussions here guys.

intrigued to say the least at the prospect of a "new" projector on the horizon.
Found a "Russian" site that seems to be on the surface....ligit.
A little google translate and presto.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.tos.by/proekt_panasonic/ae8000ea.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dptae8000u%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DTox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=5OYnUOOkKaOSiAKQ94GQCg&ved=0CDgQ7gEwAg

hopefully the link works.
post #3902 of 4344
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Originally Posted by Bumper View Post

OK, not called Flicker Fixer (old Commodore Amiga device I once owned) but called Flicker Adjust. With the cursor buttons the primary colors, ceiling vs normal mount and some numbers can be changed. No idea what the numbers mean.

This is not lamp flicker adjust, it's a flicker adjust for the LCD panels. Once your PJ is warmed up you enter this menu and, using the desk or ceiling screens (blue, red and green), select the number (up or down) that makes the flicker less visible (precaution: take a note of the numbers prior to change anything because they are different in each PJ).

Hidden Menu: there is a second hidden menu in the AE4000 that could be the same for the AE7000
With the AE4000 you can access the menu pressing from remote:
Power, right arrow, up arrow, down arrow, up arrow, down arrow and enter.
post #3903 of 4344
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Originally Posted by ferbal View Post

This is not lamp flicker adjust, it's a flicker adjust for the LCD panels. Once your PJ is warmed up you enter this menu and, using the desk or ceiling screens (blue, red and green), select the number (up or down) that makes the flicker less visible (precaution: take a note of the numbers prior to change anything because they are different in each PJ).
Hidden Menu: there is a second hidden menu in the AE4000 that could be the same for the AE7000
With the AE4000 you can access the menu pressing from remote:
Power, right arrow, up arrow, down arrow, up arrow, down arrow and enter.

all of this is reminiscent of cheat codes for Sega Genesis. LOL
post #3904 of 4344
Help!

When certain scenes come on while I'm watching a movie or Cable the red in the scene starts shuttering. It's kinda hard to explain, but when watching a scene with certain shades of red it looks like the red is shifting back and fourth pretty fast even though it might no other type of movement in a particular scene. Imagine a checker floor with white and red tiles. The red looks like it shutters up a few pixels then back down a few pixels quickly.

It's really really weird. I don't know what it is or what it's called much less how to fix it...
post #3905 of 4344
Read two posts back and it almost sound like a (flicker) fix for your problem..
post #3906 of 4344
The other hidden menu code also works on the PT-AT5000. Shows some of the same menu's but another status display, a Full Fan on/off mode etc. Nice to know because the status displays shows the amount of lamp resets.
post #3907 of 4344
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Originally Posted by seaterman99 View Post

intrigued to say the least at the prospect of a "new" projector on the horizon.

Vaporware.

Discussed on this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422718/panasonic-pt-ae8000u-us-version-pt-ae6000e-european-version-ifa-berlin-2012-new-lcd-1080p-3d-projector

The visualapex link now points to the PT-AE7000. At the time, the yet to be announced 8000's "specifications" were exactly the same as the 7000's.

...wIth the exception of 1073741824 flowers rolleyes.gif



The only semi-credible information regarding any future Panasonic projector may be found here: http://www.projectorreviews.com/projector-technical-blog/cedia-expo-2012-preview.html
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Panasonic has already provided their dealers with some information about their new PT-AE8000 projector. This is assumed to be the replacement for the PT-AE7000 model and is expected to be a modest update from that previous model. The new projector will be a 1080p model using 3LCD technology and will support 3D. Also the new projector is expected have a 2X zoom lens with lens memory, like its predecessor. The new model is expected to perhaps begin shipping perhaps as soon as September.

So, expect only a "modest update"... if any.
post #3908 of 4344
Up. Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left Right, B, A, select, start.
post #3909 of 4344
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Originally Posted by Bumper View Post

Read two posts back and it almost sound like a (flicker) fix for your problem..

Thanks, this is my first experience with flicker, so though I've read some things about it, seeing it in person wasn't what I was expecting.
post #3910 of 4344
With Pan AE7000 PJ, can i change aspect ratio (say to full screen) irrespective of the sources (BluRay/DVD/PC/Cable receiver etc) as long as my PJ is connected via HDMI to good reputable receiver. I am running to the below issue with EPSON 5010 and looking for answers How it works in Panasonic before i decide whether to return Epson and go with AE 7000 PJ.

Have a question with Epson 5010 (recently bought a week ago) related to changing Aspect ratio. I read from the manual with HDMI connection, the aspect ratio cannot be changed manually and PJ selects it automatically. With my limited testing so far, i see it was set to "Normal" mode. Here is my Q - Say i have a 16:9 ratio 100 inch screen/ Playing one of the latest Hollywood movie from my Blueray player (regular DVD or Bluray DVD) what should i be expecting here? Will i see a full image in my 100 inch screen or not? I see similar posts in this thread where people asking the same Q.(http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/official-epson-powerlite-home-cinema-5010-6010-thread/1020#post_21655309) It sounds silly to me aspect ratio cannot be changed when connected to HDMI. Same question i have for other sources like PC or cable receiver etc. Note i am not going to use 2:35.1 and i just need to understand with 16:9 screen whether i can view full screen possibly all sources (Bluray/PC/Cable etc).. With a normal HDTV i do not see this issue at all and i am surprised to see this with EPson. The final Q i have whether anyone knows Panasonic AE7000 has the same limitation with 16:9 screen..
post #3911 of 4344
I am looking at user manual of Pany 7000 PJ - . https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/projector/extranet/main/products/ae7000at5000/manual/ae7000ENGLISH_U.pdf
Review page # 58 and 59 in the above PDF doc where it explains about changing aspect ratio for various sources like HDMI.

Question - Assume i have 100 inch 16:9 type screen and connect my Pany 7000 with HDMI / Play Cinemascope type movie (2.35:1) i know by default i will get black bars in top/bottom.
Can i go to Aspect setting (that manual is talking about as mentioned in the page 58 and 59) and expand the image to fit my screen (H-fit / full screen etc) I understand the image may be streched and lose some quality.
Real Q i have - Can i change it manually? Can someone answer this? I know Pany lens memory can be used for displaying 16:9 image in scope type screen. My scenario here is just reverse. I need to know whether i can change the aspect ratio with HDMI connection. I cannot do this in Epson 5010. This is whay i wm asking whether it is possible in Pany world.
post #3912 of 4344
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Originally Posted by kvsub View Post

I am looking at user manual of Pany 7000 PJ - . https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/projector/extranet/main/products/ae7000at5000/manual/ae7000ENGLISH_U.pdf
Review page # 58 and 59 in the above PDF doc where it explains about changing aspect ratio for various sources like HDMI.
Question - Assume i have 100 inch 16:9 type screen and connect my Pany 7000 with HDMI / Play Cinemascope type movie (2.35:1) i know by default i will get black bars in top/bottom.
Can i go to Aspect setting (that manual is talking about as mentioned in the page 58 and 59) and expand the image to fit my screen (H-fit / full screen etc) I understand the image may be streched and lose some quality.
Real Q i have - Can i change it manually? Can someone answer this? I know Pany lens memory can be used for displaying 16:9 image in scope type screen. My scenario here is just reverse. I need to know whether i can change the aspect ratio with HDMI connection. I cannot do this in Epson 5010. This is whay i wm asking whether it is possible in Pany world.


Simple answer, yes. The Panny can be changed manually or automatically according to the aspect ratio of the movie that you are watching. For instance, if you have a 16:9 movie on a 16:9 screen, the image will fill the screen. The only problem is that if you zoom a 235 image on a 16:9 screen, a large portion of the picture will be missing from the left and right sides, however it can be done if that's what you like. If you want a 235 image to accurately fill the whole screen, you would either have to mask the top and bottom of your existing 16:9 screen or buy a 235 width screen.
post #3913 of 4344
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Originally Posted by kthejoker20 View Post

Up. Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left Right, B, A, select, start.



It's a damn shame that I still remember this too. lol
post #3914 of 4344
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Originally Posted by azula View Post

Simple answer, yes. The Panny can be changed manually or automatically according to the aspect ratio of the movie that you are watching. For instance, if you have a 16:9 movie on a 16:9 screen, the image will fill the screen. The only problem is that if you zoom a 235 image on a 16:9 screen, a large portion of the picture will be missing from the left and right sides, however it can be done if that's what you like. If you want a 235 image to accurately fill the whole screen, you would either have to mask the top and bottom of your existing 16:9 screen or buy a 235 width screen.

I am assuming 4:3 format can also stretched. RIght? What ever you are stating above, i am assuming the it can be done when PJ is connected via HDMI. Correct? Epson does not allow you to do this when connected via HDMI.
post #3915 of 4344
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

That is not the rule of home theatre, it's the law of physics. You said it yourself. You're using velvet wall (absorbs light reflections) and high gain screen (very low angle of reflection). Those two things allow you to have the screen next to the wall without any problem. You don't need to talk down to me. I've been designing home theatres for almost 20 years.

You had stated how big the screen should be based ONLY on the size of the room. Why do I get accused of talking down to you, because my room is set up for a larger screen?
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Once again you stated the obvious like your velvet and high-gain statement. PS3 glasses is "better" than the Panny. If you set the Panny Glasses to "darker" (the darkness is very similar to PS3 glasses in "normal")they both will yield a very similar results. The darkening of the overall brightness of the glasses hides the cross-talk. Once again it's the law of physics, not one being better than the other.

Because of my "batcave" room plus high gain screen, shouldn't I see crosstalk with the PS3 glasses, as well? The picture is very bright, even in 3D.

Since what I wrote was the truth, I don't appreciate your condescending, and confrontational, replies. I hope you use more tact with your customers.

Art
post #3916 of 4344
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

You had stated how big the screen should be based ONLY on the size of the room. Why do I get accused of talking down to you, because my room is set up for a larger screen?
Because of my "batcave" room plus high gain screen, shouldn't I see crosstalk with the PS3 glasses, as well? The picture is very bright, even in 3D.
Since what I wrote was the truth, I don't appreciate your condescending, and confrontational, replies. I hope you use more tact with your customers.
Art


*eating popcorn, watching...* biggrin.gif
post #3917 of 4344
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Originally Posted by Bumper View Post

The other hidden menu code also works on the PT-AT5000. Shows some of the same menu's but another status display, a Full Fan on/off mode etc. Nice to know because the status displays shows the amount of lamp resets.

For those that want proof that crosstalk has much to do with lamp cooling, try the hidden menu's Full Fan On mode. The Fan will be at full speed thus cooling @ max no matter the lamp setting in ECO or Normal or even High Altitude. Just a thought because I still need to try it myself..
post #3918 of 4344
Guys, can you believe my bulb started to flicker at 137 hrs, stopped after 50 hours and now started again at 687 hours, only much worse? Now even the colors are affected and I can't calibrate it anymore? It's as if the bulb is about to die! At 687 hrs!! Any o' yous know whether or not the most recent bulb batches for sale are OK? I plan to buy a new one. I really lucked out on my 7000 -- loved the image but this bulb was a real killjoy.
Thanks for your feedback.
Helcio
post #3919 of 4344
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Originally Posted by helcio.carvalho View Post

Guys, can you believe my bulb started to flicker at 137 hrs, stopped after 50 hours and now started again at 687 hours, only much worse?
Helcio, I do not know if this is your problem but my previous Panasonic projector started to flicker at about 150 hours or so. The cure was to run the lamp in "normal" mode for a few hours, after which you could return to "eco" mode.

Apparently operating in "eco" mode caused the electric arc within the lamp to deteriorate specific areas of its electrodes. Returning to "normal" mode would "move" the area that the arc would contact to a different spot on the electrodes and equalize wear. At least that is what I imagined happening.

I don't know if the PT-AE7000 is susceptible to this phenomenon but the above technique solved my problem. If you have been running in "eco" mode try changing it to "normal". If it goes away leave it in "normal" for a while.
post #3920 of 4344
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Originally Posted by 6sj7gt View Post

Helcio, I do not know if this is your problem but my previous Panasonic projector started to flicker at about 150 hours or so. The cure was to run the lamp in "normal" mode for a few hours, after which you could return to "eco" mode.
Apparently operating in "eco" mode caused the electric arc within the lamp to deteriorate specific areas of its electrodes. Returning to "normal" mode would "move" the area that the arc would contact to a different spot on the electrodes and equalize wear. At least that is what I imagined happening.
I don't know if the PT-AE7000 is susceptible to this phenomenon but the above technique solved my problem. If you have been running in "eco" mode try changing it to "normal". If it goes away leave it in "normal" for a while.

Thanks a whole lot for your reply, but I did try to run it in both modes, to no avail. As a matter of fact, I spent a good 400 hrs in Eco as the flicked would start in Normal. But you can't watch 3D in Eco so I recently took the chance and changed to Normal -- that's when the blasted flicker started. I returned to Eco, no good. Went back to Normal, no good. As I said, now even the colors are weird, as if the lamp was bumming out. Real strange. I bought a new bulb (should be delivered next week). I just hope and pray I didn't get a bad lamp again.
Best --
Helcio
post #3921 of 4344
It's not the bulb, it's the projector. Yours needs to be sent on for service. That's what I did and my problems went away.

What is your build date?
post #3922 of 4344
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Originally Posted by helcio.carvalho View Post

I bought a new bulb (should be delivered next week). I just hope and pray I didn't get a bad lamp again.
Best --
Helcio

Why buy a new bulb? It should be under warranty..
post #3923 of 4344
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner View Post

It's not the bulb, it's the projector. Yours needs to be sent on for service. That's what I did and my problems went away.
What is your build date?

I think it's more likely to be the bulb, as the flicker disappeared for a good 400 hrs. Or is it?!?!? Well, the new lamp is about to arrive. If the problem shows up again, then I'll definitely send the PJ for service. Build date Nov 2011.
post #3924 of 4344
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Originally Posted by Bumper View Post

Why buy a new bulb? It should be under warranty..

I very much doubt it's under warranty. Warranty for bulbs is 3 months. Mine is almost a year old...
post #3925 of 4344
PANASONIC PT-AE7000U CIH SETUP HELP.

I received my AE7000U yesterday, fired it up and the 16:9 setup worked great. My problem is that I am trying to do 2.35:1 CIH setup. When I use the ZOOM option, the screen fills up but sliding towards lower right of the screen. When I adjust the 2.35:1 correctly, save it; then go back to 16:9; it has moved towards top left.

If anyone has done this please assist with a detailed instruction how you made it work. I've tried all the V-POSITION, H-POSITION,V-AREA POSITION, H-AREA.
Bottom line, I think I'm confused. I have an anamorphic lens that I can even use if necessary, but I read that I would not need that with this projector.

HELP !!!!

Thanks
post #3926 of 4344
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Originally Posted by nosdude View Post

PANASONIC PT-AE7000U CIH SETUP HELP.
I received my AE7000U yesterday, fired it up and the 16:9 setup worked great. My problem is that I am trying to do 2.35:1 CIH setup. When I use the ZOOM option, the screen fills up but sliding towards lower right of the screen. When I adjust the 2.35:1 correctly, save it; then go back to 16:9; it has moved towards top left.
If anyone has done this please assist with a detailed instruction how you made it work. I've tried all the V-POSITION, H-POSITION,V-AREA POSITION, H-AREA.
Bottom line, I think I'm confused. I have an anamorphic lens that I can even use if necessary, but I read that I would not need that with this projector.
HELP !!!!
Thanks

Celina TX! Bobcat football!!! Man you guys whooped our a$$ back in the day.

So, if you have an A-Lens why did you get the Panny? A lot of Panny owners (myself included) didn't want to go through the fuss of setting up (and spending money on) an A-Lens, but if you already had one...

Anyway, to your question. Let's start with the obvious. Is your projector mounted to where the top of the 16:9 image is no lower than the center of your projector lens? If your projector is ceiling mounted and is higher than the image, then that's your problem.
post #3927 of 4344
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

Celina TX! Bobcat football!!! Man you guys whooped our a$$ back in the day.
So, if you have an A-Lens why did you get the Panny? A lot of Panny owners (myself included) didn't want to go through the fuss of setting up (and spending money on) an A-Lens, but if you already had one...
Anyway, to your question. Let's start with the obvious. Is your projector mounted to where the top of the 16:9 image is no lower than the center of your projector lens? If your projector is ceiling mounted and is higher than the image, then that's your problem.


Sorry about that popalock... those Bobcats are furious.
Yes, my projector is ceiling mounted and a little above the screen. i tilted the projector downwards a little, bit still no luck. i installed my HTB lens (since I already have it) and use the ASPECT to switch between V-FIt, and 4:3 that seems to be working.

What would you suggest I do if I still want to use the Panny without the lens? Seems like my options are limited at this point.

Thanks
post #3928 of 4344
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Originally Posted by nosdude View Post

Sorry about that popalock... those Bobcats are furious.
Yes, my projector is ceiling mounted and a little above the screen. i tilted the projector downwards a little, bit still no luck. i installed my HTB lens (since I already have it) and use the ASPECT to switch between V-FIt, and 4:3 that seems to be working.
What would you suggest I do if I still want to use the Panny without the lens? Seems like my options are limited at this point.
Thanks

You wern't using the manual nobs on the projector to go from 16:9 to 2.35 were you?
post #3929 of 4344
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

You wern't using the manual nobs on the projector to go from 16:9 to 2.35 were you?

Not at first. i set it up with 16:9 using an image from a DirecTV program and it centered properly, then perform a memory SAVE. Then, I put in a 2.35:1 movie, and push the ZOOM button to fill my 2.35:1 screen, that is when I noticed that the zoomed image starts deviating to the bottom right corner. By the time it fills the screen, i have a third of the image off the screen at the bottom and a black space at the top.

Then when i switch back to 16:9, the image has moved up. When i use the joystick to move it back down, and try to zoom, same result.

I have a 2.35:1 scope screen.

My ceiling setup look like the ceiling mount in this picture, with the middle of the lens at the top of my screen


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HELP !!!!
Edited by nosdude - 8/21/12 at 3:20pm
post #3930 of 4344
Once you set the 16:9 image using the joystick you CAN NOT use the joy stick to move the 2.35 image. The joy stick is a manual adjustment and is not saved with the memeory. Once you zoom your 2.35 image you need to adjust the vertical and horizontal position in the lense menu to center the image, then save the 2.35 image.
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