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post #4021 of 4428
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Originally Posted by kthejoker20 View Post

Would all the people who sent their PJ in for warranty repair and received the upgraded firmware, PLEASE POST IF THE UPGRADE FIXES THE GHOSTING.....

I just got my projector back from warranty repair this week but the packing slip just said they replaced my bulb to fix the flickering issue. I didn't know there was a firmware update available too.
post #4022 of 4428
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Originally Posted by dmoneyman2323 View Post

I just got my projector back from warranty repair this week but the packing slip just said they replaced my bulb to fix the flickering issue. I didn't know there was a firmware update available too.

Exactly what I thought -- most of the time, in the whole service shebang all they do is just replace the bulb. This is what I did to to my projector and everything's been fine since (even though the first few hours of the lamp got me worried, as it was flickering again, then it stopped).
Have you noticed any change in image quality/color, improvement in the grey scale adjustments with the new lamp?
post #4023 of 4428
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Originally Posted by helcio.carvalho View Post

Exactly what I thought -- most of the time, in the whole service shebang all they do is just replace the bulb. This is what I did to to my projector and everything's been fine since (even though the first few hours of the lamp got me worried, as it was flickering again, then it stopped).
Have you noticed any change in image quality/color, improvement in the grey scale adjustments with the new lamp?

For me the image quality improved but it was probably because of getting the Darbee. I bought one when my projector was in the shop, and I downloaded a 44GB Avengers 3D full blu-ray torrent (i'm going to buy it next week but i couldn't wait, still going to get it). I watched the avengers tonight and I never seen a better looking picture, it was extra sharp on HD 70% 3d. There were some close up scenes in the movie of Tony Stark and I could literally see every individual strand of facial hair.
post #4024 of 4428
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Originally Posted by dmoneyman2323 View Post

For me the image quality improved but it was probably because of getting the Darbee. I bought one when my projector was in the shop, and I downloaded a 44GB Avengers 3D full blu-ray torrent (i'm going to buy it next week but i couldn't wait, still going to get it). I watched the avengers tonight and I never seen a better looking picture, it was extra sharp on HD 70% 3d. There were some close up scenes in the movie of Tony Stark and I could literally see every individual strand of facial hair.

"Darbee"? Never heard of it. I know what you talking about when you say The Avengers is incredible -- I downloaded the ISO 3D (which I play in my Oppo) and it IS outstanding! If you want to see another real great 3D movie (image-wise), you've gotta see LEGENDS OF THE GUARDIANS.
As for my new bulb, I saw a great improvement compared to the old one.
post #4025 of 4428
Just pulled the trigger on one of these to replace my Mitsu HC5500.

It was between this, Sony 30ES, and Epson 5010. The reviews on this projector were fantastic on every review site, so hopefully no issues like the last couple pages frown.gif
post #4026 of 4428
I'd wait for the soon to be released Panasonic PT-AE8000U with its 20% brighter lamp (which is needed for 3D) and manual parallax setup (instead using the vague screen-size setup to minimize parallax as currently used by the 7000)
post #4027 of 4428
A whole lot of replies have built up since I last kept up with this thread. I just read through quite a bit of them but I know I didn't cover them all. Has anyone that had the "frame dropping" issue found a resolution besides changing the refresh rate of the source? I still can't watch movies on my Xbox 360 without seeing the framerate drop every few minutes and it is incredibly annoying. I gave up calling Panasonic after it was obvious I was getting nowhere. I'm about ready to start pursuing a solution to this again. I paid way too much for this projector to not have this issue resolved. If anyone knows of anything that has changed related to this problem I would greatly appreciate you filling me in. Thanks.
post #4028 of 4428
All these people posting about flickering issues... I had a Panny AE-900U for 6.5 years & it intermittently flickered, then got better, then got worse, etc. I never bothered to send it in & just put up with it. It wasn't terrible but it was annoying.

And people still have these lamp issues w/ the AE-7000U?

Any idea what the source of this is?

I feel like the Sony doesn't have this issue... if I Google 'Sony VPL-HW30AES flickering', I get nothing.

Guess I'm just trying to feel better about my pre-order of the HW-50ES... was a toss btwn that & the AE8000U & to be honest I went for the Sony mainly b/c convergence on my 900U got really bad over the years & I want a way to correct for that even if it's at the software level.
post #4029 of 4428
Its been so long, and whole lot people have flicker issues. Before this problem, this projector is absolutely stunning with the PQ.

Mine has flicker issue now, after 500 hrs lamp usage.
So, I just placed an order for the new lamp. Hopefully, this will "FIX" this damn issue.



I am really surprised there is no one knows what causes the flickering issue.

And there is absolutely no answer from Panasonic support as well.

What is going on with Panasonic Support ??? are they afraid of facing this issue ??? something that they don't want to let consumer know ? Its like Panasonic is trying to hide something from consumers.
I really think as a consumer, we have the right to know whats causing it. Otherwise, I will never ever buy another Panasonic Projector again.
Edited by ime2008 - 9/19/12 at 8:29pm
post #4030 of 4428
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post


I may be wrong, but this just sounds like the "normal" arc shifting that these mercury vapor lamps go through from time to time. I've had two Panny projectors with a total of four lamps, ran them on eco, and in all cases once or twice during the lamp life I've had to switch from eco to normal for a few days to burn through a "bad" spot on the electrodes. I've read lengthy articles by knowledgeable industry insiders explaining this as a normal operating characteristic of the types of lamps used in all our projectors. Perhaps others would like to weigh in.
post #4031 of 4428
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

Perhaps others would like to weigh in.

I did a few pages ago. Sounds like that's what it is.
post #4032 of 4428
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Originally Posted by helcio.carvalho View Post

"Darbee"? Never heard of it. I

http://darbeevision.com

I'm very skeptical it can result in any improvement that I would notice, but it does have its advocates (and detractors):

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/0_100

It seems to me that if Panasonic could have improved upon the image quality of the 7000, they would have done so. It's hard for me not to consider it snake oil, like one of those magical gas mileage increasing gadgets you see in Popluar Mechanics.

I have never had an opportunity to evaluate one though, so I will keep an open mind about it.
post #4033 of 4428
Hi all,

I'm very new to projectors, and am setting up my first dedicated home theater. I should have probably budgeted for someone to set things up for me, but I didn't. Oh well, will learn more this way.

I've got my AE-7000U mounted on the ceiling (boy was that a lot of work), and all is well on that front. I'm still just projecting onto a bare wall, and am very eager to buy a screen. I was leaning towards a cinemascope screen, and as such, have taped off those dimensions onto the wall, but I can't seem to get both cinemascope movies and 16x9 content to project onto the same height.

Let me describe what I've done. When viewing a cinemascope movie (I've been using Casino Royale on Blu-Ray for testing cinemascope content), I can get the image to fill the taped dimensions. I did so by standing on a stool, and using the manual lens shifting mechanism. Next up, I tried some 16x9 content (Planet Earth Blu-Ray). For this, I thought it would be a simple matter of adjusting the zoom on the remote to shrink the 16x9 content down until it fit within the height of my taped dimensions (leaving screen real estate on the left and right unused of course). But what happens as I zoom, the picture also rises upward (and off the would be screen).

I must be missing something, as this was one of the prime features of a projector in this price range (not to mention a major factor in my choice to purchase this projector). Am I not understanding aspect ratios? I thought I had a firm grasp on them.

Thanks for any help!
Ryan
post #4034 of 4428
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

I may be wrong, but this just sounds like the "normal" arc shifting that these mercury vapor lamps go through from time to time. I've had two Panny projectors with a total of four lamps, ran them on eco, and in all cases once or twice during the lamp life I've had to switch from eco to normal for a few days to burn through a "bad" spot on the electrodes. I've read lengthy articles by knowledgeable industry insiders explaining this as a normal operating characteristic of the types of lamps used in all our projectors. Perhaps others would like to weigh in.

Interesting. Guess that would explain why it was intermittent, and why it would return, and go, and return, and go...

I'm curious why people don't mention it wrt to other projectors like the Sony. Unless it's simply b/c Panasonic has a greater market share?
post #4035 of 4428
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Originally Posted by ime2008 View Post

Its been so long, and whole lot people have flicker issues. Before this problem, this projector is absolutely stunning with the PQ.
Mine has flicker issue now, after 500 hrs lamp usage.
So, I just placed an order for the new lamp. Hopefully, this will "FIX" this damn issue.
I am really surprised there is no one knows what causes the flickering issue.
And there is absolutely no answer from Panasonic support as well.
What is going on with Panasonic Support ??? are they afraid of facing this issue ??? something that they don't want to let consumer know ? Its like Panasonic is trying to hide something from consumers.
I really think as a consumer, we have the right to know whats causing it. Otherwise, I will never ever buy another Panasonic Projector again.

The information below is from wmccann in the AE8000 thread. I have the 8000 on order, but have never had a Pany before so can't speak to the issue myself.


"Also, has the flickering issue so many had been fixed?"


for anyone who is interested, the "flickering" has been resolved (I had a long discussion with panasonic technical support). Essentially it was due to Sky 3D not sending the 3D signal identifier. this meant that you had to manually select 3D which is a pain but not a real problem.

What was then happening was the projector continued checking for the 3d signal identifier, and, depending on the image, the processor would "reset" thus inserting a white frame into the picture.

There is a firmware update that fixes this issue (for the 5000/70000) - you need to send your projector back to panasonic though.

(There is also a rumour that Sky are going to send the signal soon anyway!).
post #4036 of 4428
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Originally Posted by manning99 View Post

The information below is from wmccann in the AE8000 thread. I have the 8000 on order, but have never had a Pany before so can't speak to the issue myself.
"Also, has the flickering issue so many had been fixed?"
for anyone who is interested, the "flickering" has been resolved (I had a long discussion with panasonic technical support). Essentially it was due to Sky 3D not sending the 3D signal identifier. this meant that you had to manually select 3D which is a pain but not a real problem.
What was then happening was the projector continued checking for the 3d signal identifier, and, depending on the image, the processor would "reset" thus inserting a white frame into the picture.
There is a firmware update that fixes this issue (for the 5000/70000) - you need to send your projector back to panasonic though.
(There is also a rumour that Sky are going to send the signal soon anyway!).

You're talking about TV signal, right? What about bluray, mkv, and other files? To my knowledge, the flickering problem has nothing to do with 3D or TV, but the blub or ballast. I changed my bulb, the flickering resumed with the new lamp after 10 hours then up and disappeared after 20 hours or so. Could be the arc shifting thing. I hope it never returns. It is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo freakin' annoying!!
post #4037 of 4428
I just hit 700 hours on mine, had a bit of a flickering issue for about 5 hours at 650 hours. Has been perfect since. I switched between eco and normal every so often and it just stopped at one point and never came back.

Also the darbee is wonderful. I understand the guys who are skeptical but you have to take the plunge, it's really great, especially for the price.
post #4038 of 4428
Yeah the flickering I was talking about had nothing to do with TV (which I don't watch) or 3D (which the Panny AE900U was not capable of). Seemed like a bulb issue to me that, by the looks of it on these forum threads, still persists in newer units.
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Quick question for somebody using the panasonic 3rd gen 3D glasses with their AE7000. I just received a set of the 3rd gen panasonic glasses but won't have my 3D projector for a week or two. The manual says that sliding the 2D/3D switch will put them in 2D mode and the LED will flash twice every four seconds (instead of the once every two seconds when in 3D mode). Do the glasses have to be receiving an IR 3D signal for this switch to occur? Mine just keep flashing the LED once every two seconds no matter how many times I slide the switch. Thanks.
post #4040 of 4428
Damn you guys. I am feeling bad about installing my AE7000U tomorrow now mad.gif


Dunno if I should pray for the best on the flickering issue or exchange it for an Epson 3010...... I hope these flickering issues are isolated incidents as online reviews(Amazon, Projector People, etc) all seem positive.
post #4041 of 4428
I doubt the AE7000U & the 3010 are in the same league... I was not impressed by the black levels on the lower end Epsons at all, nor the obvious grid structure since they don't have Smooth Screen like technology & are not LCOS.
post #4042 of 4428
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

Quick question for somebody using the panasonic 3rd gen 3D glasses with their AE7000. I just received a set of the 3rd gen panasonic glasses but won't have my 3D projector for a week or two. The manual says that sliding the 2D/3D switch will put them in 2D mode and the LED will flash twice every four seconds (instead of the once every two seconds when in 3D mode). Do the glasses have to be receiving an IR 3D signal for this switch to occur? Mine just keep flashing the LED once every two seconds no matter how many times I slide the switch. Thanks.

The glasses won't work without the ir transmitter, so I wouldn't worry about it unti then. Moving the switch to the right will immediately show the 3d image to be 2d, and pushing it again will restore the 3d....as long as the ir signal is hitting the glasses, that is...kf
post #4043 of 4428
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

Damn you guys. I am feeling bad about installing my AE7000U tomorrow now mad.gif
Dunno if I should pray for the best on the flickering issue or exchange it for an Epson 3010...... I hope these flickering issues are isolated incidents as online reviews(Amazon, Projector People, etc) all seem positive.

The flickering issue usually wont happen at the beginning. Mine happened after 500 hrs lamp usage. Online review will not have that issue for sure.
And I heard this issue happens on very first shippment of AE7000. (I could be wrong.)
I also just ordered a new lamp for it. I will have it by next Thursday.

Oh and....
PQ on AE7000 is way better than 3010.........
You should compare AE7000 with 5010.
post #4044 of 4428
I have not noticed any flickering on my AE7000U as of yet. I've had it since March. The Epson 3010 doesn't hold a candle to the AE7000U. Also someone asked earlier about gaming on the AE7000U... I use mine for gaming >90% of the time and it is a fantastic projector for gaming. I had an Epson 8700UB before it and I had to sell it because it just wasn't working for me when it comes to gaming. The 3010 and 5010 are even worse than the 8700UB from the figures I have seen. Before the Epson I had an Infocus IN76 and it was pretty good for gaming as well but I don't think it was as good as the Panny in this regard. If it weren't for the framerate issues I have when watching movies on the Xbox 360 I would be 100% satisfied with this pj.
post #4045 of 4428
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I just hit 700 hours on mine, had a bit of a flickering issue for about 5 hours at 650 hours. Has been perfect since. I switched between eco and normal every so often and it just stopped at one point and never came back.
Also the darbee is wonderful. I understand the guys who are skeptical but you have to take the plunge, it's really great, especially for the price.

REally? Could you see a significant image difference or is it just a gimmick to bump sharpness? The 7000 comes with the Detail Clarity thing, but you just can't use too much of it. Isn't it the same thing? I'm sick and tired of believing (and spending) in hypes -- been a victim to some myself till I became a skeptic.
post #4046 of 4428
Not a gimmick. I reviewed the unit and liked it so much I bought another three. One for each display in my house.

http://www.quebecaudio.com/actualite/darbee-darblet-video-processor/
post #4047 of 4428
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Not a gimmick. I reviewed the unit and liked it so much I bought another three. One for each display in my house.
http://www.quebecaudio.com/actualite/darbee-darblet-video-processor/

WOW! Nice review. Guess I'll give it a shot... is it easy to connect? Should I recalibrate my PJ?
Edited by helcio.carvalho - 9/22/12 at 2:33pm
post #4048 of 4428
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

... I hope these flickering issues are isolated incidents as online reviews(Amazon, Projector People, etc) all seem positive.
I think they are isolated incidents. Of course that doesn't matter when it happens to you.

I had one incidence of flickering on my PT-AE3000U, but since I already heard of the phenomenon I switched from "eco" to "normal" mode for a few hours, then returned to "eco" where it remained flicker-free for another 2000 hours.

I have not experienced it on my 7000, about 300 hours on it now. I certainly would not let this dissuade you from buying one. If I knew of a better projector I would have bought it.

Flickering is a potential irritant for any arc light source. We may just have to cope with it until better light sources become available.
post #4049 of 4428
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Originally Posted by helcio.carvalho View Post

WOW! Nice review. Guess I'll give it a shot... is it easy to connect? Should I recalibrate my PJ?

Just connect the unit before your projector. No recalibration needed because it produces no colour shift (according to my colorimeter)
post #4050 of 4428
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Originally Posted by 6sj7gt View Post

I think they are isolated incidents. Of course that doesn't matter when it happens to you.
I had one incidence of flickering on my PT-AE3000U, but since I already heard of the phenomenon I switched from "eco" to "normal" mode for a few hours, then returned to "eco" where it remained flicker-free for another 2000 hours.
I have not experienced it on my 7000, about 300 hours on it now. I certainly would not let this dissuade you from buying one. If I knew of a better projector I would have bought it.
Flickering is a potential irritant for any arc light source. We may just have to cope with it until better light sources become available.

My flicker problem happens under Normal Mode. I never use ECO mode.

So, in this case, What should i do ?? change it to ECO for couple hrs then switch to Normal again for couple hrs until the flicker gone ??

Please, advise ~ thanks
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