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post #91 of 975
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post


Good point. Maybe we should raise the ceiling another $50.00 or so for sealed subs which typically run higher then ported ones.

Ian

Another 50 and then another 50...... slippery slope.
post #92 of 975
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Another 50 and then another 50...... slippery slope.

Precisely why I'm reluctant to raise the price ceiling.

Based upon the research I had done before creating this thread it seemed as though $300 and below was what most people considered a budget subwoofer (at least among those who posted asking for specific recommendations). I oscillated back and forth between several dollar amounts, but ultimately $300 won out.

I did strongly consider making another thread for subs between $300 and $600 -- and spent a great deal of time investigating the market -- but it became painfully obvious how daunting a task it would be to maintain something like that. The sheer number of products available would dwarf this list by an order of magnitude, and I simply do not have that kind of free time available to me.
post #93 of 975
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

Another 50 and then another 50...... slippery slope.


I was referring to a new thread for less expensive sealed subs, which are good option for those whose priority is music or are have space limitations and still want decent bass.


Ian
post #94 of 975
great thread, thanks a lot everyone!
post #95 of 975
Nice Thread!

Why don't you list the Mirage MM-6 & MM-8?
Both can be had for under $300.00.
post #96 of 975
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Nice Thread!

Why don't you list the Mirage MM-6 & MM-8?
Both can be had for under $300.00.

The MM-6's driver is only 6.5". To be included on this list it has to be 8" minimum, so that one isn't large enough. I've looked into the MM-8 from time to time, but the lowest I can find it for on a consistent basis is between $350-$400. Where are you seeing it for under $300?
post #97 of 975
The Dayton is on sale for 100 bucks right now making it nearly irresistable, but I'm guessing somewhere during BF, someone is gonna have the PSW 505 for sale ~200 and the V1220 can be had for 160 right now. 1/3 music, 1/3 gaming, 1/3 movies

Which of these is the best for a budget 5.1 setup. I'm gonna be starting off with a 2.1 for now till i make more money and i wiould be using either the DTA 100A amp or the Lepai 2020 for my bookshelves. that being said which of these would be the best bang for the buck.

I would consider the energy but I hear it has amp problems.
post #98 of 975
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Originally Posted by edo101 View Post

The Dayton is on sale for 100 bucks right now making it nearly irresistable, but I'm guessing somewhere during BF, someone is gonna have the PSW 505 for sale ~200 and the V1220 can be had for 160 right now. 1/3 music, 1/3 gaming, 1/3 movies

Which of these is the best for a budget 5.1 setup. I'm gonna be starting off with a 2.1 for now till i make more money and i wiould be using either the DTA 100A amp or the Lepai 2020 for my bookshelves. that being said which of these would be the best bang for the buck.

I would consider the energy but I hear it has amp problems.

I think it depends on what your budget is. I just received the BIC Acoustech PL-200 last week. I paid $249 shipped from Acoustic Sound Design (authorized dealer). I just finished hooking it up, but haven't had time to really test it out.

Obviously what sounds good is very subjective, but the PSW505 is supposedly better suited for music, while the V1220 and F-12 are better suited for movies/gaming.

BTW - Amazon had the PSW505 for $180 not long ago, so you'll probably be able to find that again.
post #99 of 975
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I think it depends on what your budget is. I just received the BIC Acoustech PL-200 last week. I paid $249 shipped from Acoustic Sound Design (authorized dealer). I just finished hooking it up, but haven't had time to really test it out.

Obviously what sounds good is very subjective, but the PSW505 is supposedly better suited for music, while the V1220 and F-12 are better suited for movies/gaming.

BTW - Amazon had the PSW505 for $180 not long ago, so you'll probably be able to find that again.

yeah thats what I'm waiting for now. I don't need the POWAH of the PL-200
post #100 of 975
this should be made a sticky and then have price updates! awesome and helpful thread!
post #101 of 975
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this should be made a sticky and then have price updates! awesome and helpful thread!

Done. How's that for service?
post #102 of 975
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Cerwin Vega VE28S
Definitive Technology Pro Sub 60
Jamo SUB 210
KEF C4
Klipsch KW-100
Mordaunt Short Carnival 7
Pioneer SW-8
Wharfdale SW150
post #103 of 975
Fantastic job, Jim. This thread definitely deserved to be a sticky since this is a question that pops up so often. Now we are waiting for you to do the under $650 sub thread
post #104 of 975
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Originally Posted by capablanca View Post

Fantastic job, Jim. This thread definitely deserved to be a sticky since this is a question that pops up so often. Now we are waiting for you to do the under $650 sub thread

Thanks. It's a lot of work to maintain this beast but it seems to have helped a bunch of people, so it's worth the effort.

As far as the under $650 thread goes... I already created that - it's this thread. After all, every one of these subs is under $650.
post #105 of 975
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Done. How's that for service?

haha, awesome!!!!
post #106 of 975
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Thanks. It's a lot of work to maintain this beast but it seems to have helped a bunch of people, so it's worth the effort.

As far as the under $650 thread goes... I already created that - it's this thread. After all, every one of these subs is under $650.

Unfortunately that leaves out a great many subs between $300 and $650.
Not knocking your effort.
1 suggestion, if a pro review exists on any of the subs, a link to it with the info/purchase would come in handy.
Thanks.
post #107 of 975
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Originally Posted by jackbuzz View Post

Unfortunately that leaves out a great many subs between $300 and $650.

Agreed. I actually discuss that very thing in post #92 above.


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Originally Posted by jackbuzz View Post

1 suggestion, if a pro review exists on any of the subs, a link to it with the info/purchase would come in handy.

This, or something similar, has been asked by several people. I've actually debated how to do it myself. There does seem to be a need for another reference, be it an "official" owners thread, a discussion thread or a professional review. But every time I think I know which direction to go in something changes my mind.

For example, which review site is considered the best to use? I know of several good ones, but I have neither the time nor the desire to scour all of them for each of the subs listed in post #1. avsforum has a ton of threads, but a lot of those are tailored to a particular manufacturer more so then an individual subwoofer.

And when you really thing about it a lot of the subs listed here are pretty generic and don't have much, if any, following. That's one of the primary reasons why I took it upon myself to evaluate those fringe players; they simply had no information about them available. So far I've done Theater Solutions and XTZ (although the latter is not a $300 sub). I now have a Technical Pro SW1201 that I'm about half way done putting through it's paces, and then I'll probably get an NXG or OSD sub after that (probably OSD, since they're an advertiser on this forum).

The bottom line is your suggestion has merit, and it's certainly something I've thought about frequently. I just haven't figured out how best to handle it yet.
post #108 of 975
^^^^

Nah, I think that the thread is fine the way it is. I wouldn't worry about reviews. We are talking about sub $300 subwoofers. And I'm pretty sure we can use a search engine and do our own research.

I appreciate the work you've already put in and I'm a regular follower of this thread. Good work

Cheers
post #109 of 975
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Who's rating system though? I'm certainly not able to listen to all of those subwoofers, so it can't be mine, and if I solicit other peoples opinion we'll simply get into arguing back and forth. That's precisely why I said in the first post this thread is not intended for any of that. I'm simply trying to create a reference to show people what's available. From there each person should do whatever research they feel necessary, because there are no two circumstances alike.

If you have any questions then by all means start a new thread specific to what you need. I'm sure there will be plenty of people who can assist.

Jim:

This is great. Tonight, my "top of line, best buy, low-budget sub bit the dust after it was sitting idle for six months awaiting it's new home. Well, I need to procur another sub and this list is a godsend. Thank you

Dom

P.S. I guess the old adage "you get what you pay for" was true in this case. As for ratings at this price, well, it's up on my list but as long as it throw out some "thump thump thump" to tick off the little woman, then I'm happy.
post #110 of 975
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Originally Posted by jproy13 View Post

^^^^

Nah, I think that the thread is fine the way it is. I wouldn't worry about reviews. We are talking about sub $300 subwoofers. And I'm pretty sure we can use a search engine and do our own research.

I appreciate the work you've already put in and I'm a regular follower of this thread. Good work

Cheers

Here, here. I agree wholeheartedly.
post #111 of 975
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Thanks Dom. I'm glad it's been of value to you.

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As for ratings at this price, well, it's up on my list but as long as it throw out some "thump thump thump" to tick off the little woman, then I'm happy.

I'm still toying around with what I want to do here, because I think there's some merit to at least linking the subs to something. I'm leaning toward it being a forum thread though, and since I've been reviewing a few of these subs myself I at least know where to start.

BTW... you're probably the first person who openly admits to pissing off the wife. Most of the other guys seem to have WAF as a big deciding factor for their HT. You're the alpha male!
post #112 of 975
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BTW... you're probably the first person who openly admits to pissing off the wife. Most of the other guys seem to have WAF as a big deciding factor for their HT. You're the alpha male!


Then I guess you haven't read my posts on this subject.


Ian
post #113 of 975
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Then I guess you haven't read my posts on this subject.

Nope, I haven't. But perhaps I may have to hunt some of them down and see for myself. Do we have two Hugh Hefner's now?
post #114 of 975
Does the "my wife just don't give a %^&*" good enough to be in that club?
post #115 of 975
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Originally Posted by jproy13 View Post

Does the "my wife just don't give a %^&*" good enough to be in that club?


Not if you don't piss her off.


Ian
post #116 of 975
Thank you SO much for this. Reps and thumbs up to you! (Wait, this isn't slickdeals? My bad).

Anyway, I'm in this range myself, to complete my bedroom 2.1 setup with my Arx A1s. And while I'd be in the camp -- selfishly! -- that'd love reviews, I can see how they'd complicate things and make this thread messy (It's too bad we don't have some sort of metacritic-like review aggregator!)

That being said, what about categories? You really only a few...music, HT, etc.

Because then I'd know what I'm looking for, which is the best "around" $300 subwoofer for music in a 2.1 setup for a bedroom. (Hint hint! Anyone wanna give me a suggestion?)

Thanks again.

<------ Also, check this out: I joined August 2006. And this is my first post. Holy lurker, Batman! Kudos to you for pulling me from the rafters.
post #117 of 975
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Originally Posted by jeremola View Post

Thank you SO much for this. Reps and thumbs up to you! (Wait, this isn't slickdeals? My bad).

You're welcome. I'm glad you've been able to get some value from this.


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Originally Posted by jeremola View Post

That being said, what about categories? You really only a few...music, HT, etc.

Because then I'd know what I'm looking for, which is the best "around" $300 subwoofer for music in a 2.1 setup for a bedroom. (Hint hint! Anyone wanna give me a suggestion?)

For the same reason I discourage any debates about value/quality I fear the same contentious situation would occur over ability; what constitutes musical for one person would be considered sloppy by someone else. That would also lead to endless arguments, which would diminish the value of this thread. That being said... perhaps I can at least give you some guidelines on what to look for, and then you can choose a couple of potential candidates from the list. Once you've done that you can start a thread asking about those subwoofers in specific, at which point you'll get a lot of assistance from the forum members.

Generally speaking, when a person is looking for a musical subwoofer they choose acoustic suspension (sealed). Those are often described as tight, fast, detailed, etc. They don't usually have the deep extension of bass reflex (ported), but with most styles of music that's not a drawback because the frequencies don't extend much below 30Hz. Music, by it's very nature, is better suited to a subwoofer that's articulate, because tiny nuances are part of the source material. Watching TV and movies is more satisfing when things are presented with very low frequencies, but for the most part you don't need as much detail as you would when listening to music.

Because budget subwoofers use commensurate parts -- with their inherent drawbacks -- they most often augment the output using a bass reflex design. It's just the nature of the beast really; in order to produce high output (volume) and deep extension from an acoustic suspension design you need to throw in a bunch of quality (read: expensive) parts. That's not feasible for a budget product.

That's not to say some of the subs listed in the first post can't be used for a music system, it's just you aren't likely to get all the definition a typical musical sub can provide. But the fact you're looking for a non-HT subwoofer might be to your advantage in this case. If you do opt to look at just acoustic suspension you won't have a tremendous number of products to consider. So I guess the sword cuts both ways; fewer to choose from, but less daunting a task because of it.


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<------ Also, check this out: I joined August 2006. And this is my first post. Holy lurker, Batman! Kudos to you for pulling me from the rafters.

65 months of lurking and my thread gets you to post for the first time??? I'm honored. Welcome to the sunlight my friend...
post #118 of 975
Not sure if this has been covered, and I know nothing about this sub, but this was brought up (and seconded) in another thread:

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Originally Posted by kesando View Post

May I suggest the Cadence CSX-12 mk II? It can currently be had for $299 shipped during the holiday sale and according to owners is great for the money. I would personally choose it over the BIC and Lava subs at this point.

http://www.cadencehometheaterspeaker...6&idcategory=2

Just enter the code CA100 at checkout

Seems like it'd qualify, no?
post #119 of 975
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Originally Posted by jeremola View Post

Not sure if this has been covered, and I know nothing about this sub, but this was brought up (and seconded) in another thread:

Seems like it'd qualify, no?

The CSX-12 is $399, but the cutoff for this thread is $300. From what I understand it's not a bad sub, but from a price standpoint it doesn't qualify for this thread.
post #120 of 975
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

The CSX-12 is $399, but the cutoff for this thread is $300. From what I understand it's not a bad sub, but from a price standpoint it doesn't qualify for this thread.

Oh, there's a coupon code dropping the price to $299, shipped. I guess maybe that doesn't qualify because it's not "always" available at that price, but experience tells me when a company is willing to drop the price of a product 25%, it's not usually a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

I just wish there were more reviews for it. Seems like a decent candidate.
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