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post #1051 of 2822
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Originally Posted by pinky58 View Post

when I looked Saturday, the price at newegg was the same as at amazon.... guess they posted a lower price.... possibly due to the problems you mentioned with the 3t drives..

Would love to get a 4 drive Synology, but atm, thats more of an outlay of cash then I can spare right now....... doing good to try for the 2 bay.

Bill

Well, 4-6 tb (2 drive config) is still alot of space, but I guess it depends on what all you have.

My Windows "Media File Server" currently has 8tb online, but about 4tb is a backup ... no way I'm ripping all my disks again. (due to HDD failure) I'll need to add another couple of drives soon.
post #1052 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Blackbird_CaD_ View Post

How can i get audio from this thing?
Because it doesn't have any analog audio connections whatsoever, and my receiver don't have any digital audio connections whatsoever, no HDMI, no optical, no coaxial, nada.

Sounds like you need a new receiver ... but I guess you know that.

It comes with a special cable that plugs into a 1/8" jack. It outputs analog (RCA jack) stereo and Composite video.
post #1053 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Sounds like you need a new receiver ... but I guess you know that.

It comes with a special cable that plugs into a 1/8" jack. It outputs analog (RCA jack) stereo and Composite video.

http://www.frontx.com/pro/c216_042p2.gif
It's such a cable right, or maybe it has more than 2 male connectors on the other end.
It looks kinda thin and cheap.. my other RCA cable is atleast 4 times thicker, with gold plated contacts and stuff, so how would the sound quality be with that cable..?

Yes i know my receiver sucks.
But i bought my receiver 2 years ago for 435 USD, doesn't people usually keep their receivers for more than 2 years..? lol
post #1054 of 2822
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

The Live SMP doesn't not have a built-in drive, so I assume you're talking about plugging a USB disk into it, in which case, yes, you can drag and drop to it.

so to play media files and such , you don't play them directly from the WD?
there is a nas, HDD or usb attached?
of even a PC ? so the SMP will access my pc , open the folder on my pc and play the files directly from that?
post #1055 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Blackbird_CaD_ View Post

It's such a cable right, or maybe it has more than 2 male connectors on the other end.
It looks kinda thin and cheap.. my other RCA cable is atleast 4 times thicker, with gold plated contacts and stuff, so how would the sound quality be with that cable..?

Yes i know my receiver sucks.
But i bought my receiver 2 years ago for 435 USD, doesn't people usually keep their receivers for more than 2 years..? lol

No, you can't use an off-the-shelf cable. You need to use the one that came with it.

A 2-year old 435 dollar receiver with no digital input? Wow. My $299 receiver that's 5 years old has 8 digital inputs.
post #1056 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Blackbird_CaD_ View Post

http://www.frontx.com/pro/c216_042p2.gif
It's such a cable right, or maybe it has more than 2 male connectors on the other end.
It looks kinda thin and cheap.. my other RCA cable is atleast 4 times thicker, with gold plated contacts and stuff, so how would the sound quality be with that cable..?

Yes i know my receiver sucks.
But i bought my receiver 2 years ago for 435 USD, doesn't people usually keep their receivers for more than 2 years..? lol

No, I really doubt it. Like I said ... it's a special cable. If you want to make sure it works, you will have to contact WD and buy it directly from them. Or, find the one that came with it in the box.

Something doesn't "add up" about your receiver. What Make and Model is it? What country are you in?
post #1057 of 2822
Jakmal or wdfan, Is there any writeup on this wd, as to what it does and what it does not do?? may be comparison with boxee box atleast limiting to playback of local files under different formats?? Are you guys using 1.05.18 firmware?
post #1058 of 2822
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Originally Posted by pinky58 View Post

Tesla, I have been checking on a Synology DS212j to use for my NAS, along with putting 2 3T WD 3OEZRX drives in it.

Wow ... I didn't realize Synology had gotten the price on the entry level 2-bay models down to $199. Get you some drives and a UPS Battery and you are all set. Buy one of those, and use large USB-2 drives for the backups.

When it fills up, buy the slightly upgraded model in a year or so (that has USB-3 as standard). Plus, this way ... you send up with two Gigabit links to your "network backbone". I like it!
post #1059 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Wow ... I didn't realize Synology had gotten the price on the entry level 2-bay models down to $199. Get you some drives and a UPS Battery and you are all set. Buy one of those, and use large USB-2 drives for the backups.

When it fills up, buy the slightly upgraded model in a year or so (that has USB-3 as standard). Plus, this way ... you send up with two Gigabit links to your "network backbone". I like it!

Did some checking and the DS411j is going for $360, maybe someday........lol.... Any suggestions which drives to populate 212j with?

BTW, took your earlier advice on the dvdfab, but got the full lifetime special on that instead....

This SMP better be worth all the support I am throwing at it........lol

Bill
post #1060 of 2822
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

Jakmal or wdfan, Is there any writeup on this wd, as to what it does and what it does not do?? may be comparison with boxee box atleast limiting to playback of local files under different formats?? Are you guys using 1.05.18 firmware?

@csrini1 - you looking for writeups on the SMP?

Here's a bunch:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=330
(Click on "Reviews and Awards")
I am using 1.05.18.
post #1061 of 2822
Hello!

We have a older 65 inch Mitsibushi projection set at my parents, and I want to set up a WDTV Live Streaming Player to take advantage of the HD (TV max is 1080i). The TV does not have HDMI inputs (just s-video/ 2 component and one VGA), the WD TV outputs HD only via HDMI.

Are there any solutions that have worked for you all? I have researched the HDFury and others mentioned, I don't want to spend 100 on the device.
Are there any decent HDMI to Component convertor devices out there?

Amazon has mixed reviews on the various convertors that run for $40 to $60. Anyone have luck with any of those? I know that I will have to set the WDTV SMP to output at 1080i in the settings.
post #1062 of 2822
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

Jakmal or wdfan, Is there any writeup on this wd, as to what it does and what it does not do?? may be comparison with boxee box atleast limiting to playback of local files under different formats?? Are you guys using 1.05.18 firmware?

Get the WD TV Live Hub, if you can. The SDK for that SoC is much more mature and it is really evident in many places where the WD TV Live SMP fails to play a file properly, but the Live Hub is able to do a good job.

Both the units have the same online services.. so, the only drawbacks for the Live Hub are the extra cost, power consumption and absence of Wi-Fi (for people interested in local media streaming of HD videos, it is better to go the wired route anyway).

Local media compatibility of Boxee will be much better, no doubt about that. I will try to put out a detailed review by the coming weekend.
post #1063 of 2822
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Originally Posted by pinky58 View Post

Did some checking and the DS411j is going for $360, maybe someday........lol.... Any suggestions which drives to populate 212j with?

The largest ones that have good reliability reviews. I like to buy nicer "desktop drives" ... usually one step below raid or enterprise class ... when drives crash it's a real pain for me (pulling drives, arranging RMAs, re-installing new drive, re-copy data from backup, hope it works, etc). Life it too short.

In retail packaging (so it's protected the minute it leaves the factory). I got tired of how poorly Amazon, Tiger, and Newegg pack bare OEM drives (so I don't deal with that part any more). And just generally not handled very much ... you DO know how packages are treated at UPS, right?

And the above is only for home business, pro-sumer installs. For business servers or NAS ... only enterprise class drives.
post #1064 of 2822
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Originally Posted by sksahai View Post

Hello!

We have a older 65 inch Mitsibushi projection set at my parents, and I want to set up a WDTV Live Streaming Player to take advantage of the HD (TV max is 1080i). The TV does not have HDMI inputs (just s-video/ 2 component and one VGA), the WD TV outputs HD only via HDMI.

Are there any solutions that have worked for you all? I have researched the HDFury and others mentioned, I don't want to spend 100 on the device.
Are there any decent HDMI to Component convertor devices out there?

Amazon has mixed reviews on the various convertors that run for $40 to $60. Anyone have luck with any of those? I know that I will have to set the WDTV SMP to output at 1080i in the settings.

If you can, get a WDTV Live Plus or HUB, they have component output. Don't waste your money on converters.
post #1065 of 2822
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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

Get the WD TV Live Hub, if you can. The SDK for that SoC is much more mature and it is really evident in many places where the WD TV Live SMP fails to play a file properly, but the Live Hub is able to do a good job.

Both the units have the same online services.. so, the only drawbacks for the Live Hub are the extra cost, power consumption and absence of Wi-Fi (for people interested in local media streaming of HD videos, it is better to go the wired route anyway).

Local media compatibility of Boxee will be much better, no doubt about that. I will try to put out a detailed review by the coming weekend.

Hmm, I thought the new one has a faster processor and it is better, will wait/watch for your review then...
post #1066 of 2822
Appreciate all the help Tesla, awaiting delivery of the SMP Friday, the 212j the following week, and then deciding which drives to pit into it. All this just to use as a functional media server....... almost got the DS411+II instead of the 212j just to be able to connect an esata device (see url below), but again, maybe in the future.......

http://www.lg.com/us/computer-produc...y-BE12LU38.jsp

Bill

When I dream, I dream big!!!
post #1067 of 2822
The WD TV Live's 1080p Netflix resolution is a little worse than on the Roku 2 or PS3, because it crops 1 pixel each from two sides of the image, then resizes to fill.

Bottom-right circle of test pattern on Roku 2 vs WD TV Live SMP


I've described the steps to see the cropping on the Issues site. If you also see the problem, upvotes would be appreciated.
post #1068 of 2822
I want to connect my 2TB Western Digital HD to my network somehow so I can access it from various rooms in the house with a WD TV player.
I have an E3000 Cisco Lynksys router, which has a USB port on it.
I have the router flashed with DD-WRT firmware.
How would I be able to accomplish this?
I tried connecting a 4GB flashdrive to my router as a test but it did not seem to work.
How would I go about getting this setup?
post #1069 of 2822
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Originally Posted by DJWikiera View Post

If you can, get a WDTV Live Plus or HUB, they have component output. Don't waste your money on converters.

Too late, already have the SMP, got it two days ago.
I have the original WDTV Live (Non plus) and wanted another unit that did Netflix, plus the GUI is much easier for the wife/parents/kids to navigate.

I thought the SMP did have component, I just did not read the specs carefully enough before ordering it.

So now that I am here, with the SMP, attached to an ancient TV, any options for an HD (720/1080i) signal?
post #1070 of 2822
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

The WD TV Live's 1080p Netflix resolution is a little worse than on the Roku 2 or PS3, because it crops 1 pixel each from two sides of the image, then resizes to fill.

Bottom-right circle of test pattern on Roku 2 vs WD TV Live SMP


I've described the steps to see the cropping on the Issues site. If you also see the problem, upvotes would be appreciated.

Nice job picking that one up. I'm still trying to get Vudu to fix the DD+ audio bitstream issue. Let's see if they fix it.
post #1071 of 2822
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Originally Posted by RVD26 View Post

I want to connect my 2TB Western Digital HD to my network somehow so I can access it from various rooms in the house with a WD TV player.
I have an E3000 Cisco Lynksys router, which has a USB port on it.
I have the router flashed with DD-WRT firmware.
How would I be able to accomplish this?
I tried connecting a 4GB flashdrive to my router as a test but it did not seem to work.
How would I go about getting this setup?

Can't you just connect the USB-HDD it to the SMP and turn it into a "media hub"?

Your other way ... read directions carefully in the E3000 docs (or rather, DD-WRT docs). Post in their forums. I like your 4gb flash drive test. Maybe the storage devices need to be formatted a certain way?
post #1072 of 2822
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Originally Posted by sksahai View Post

So now that I am here, with the SMP, attached to an ancient TV, any options for an HD (720/1080i) signal?

Some people have said this converter works but you'll have to read the reviews and decide whether it's worth the gamble.
post #1073 of 2822
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

The WD TV Live's 1080p Netflix resolution is a little worse than on the Roku 2 or PS3, because it crops 1 pixel each from two sides of the image, then resizes to fill.

Bottom-right circle of test pattern on Roku 2 vs WD TV Live SMP


I've described the steps to see the cropping on the Issues site. If you also see the problem, upvotes would be appreciated.

so thats why the picture quailty is better on roku than wdtv?
post #1074 of 2822
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Originally Posted by sksahai View Post

Hello!

We have a older 65 inch Mitsibushi projection set at my parents, and I want to set up a WDTV Live Streaming Player to take advantage of the HD (TV max is 1080i). The TV does not have HDMI inputs (just s-video/ 2 component and one VGA), the WD TV outputs HD only via HDMI.

Are there any solutions that have worked for you all? I have researched the HDFury and others mentioned, I don't want to spend 100 on the device.
Are there any decent HDMI to Component convertor devices out there?

Amazon has mixed reviews on the various convertors that run for $40 to $60. Anyone have luck with any of those? I know that I will have to set the WDTV SMP to output at 1080i in the settings.

Maybe try to interface to the VGA port ...

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Although, be armed with the exact resolutions the TV accepts via VGA ... most are pretty picky. If it's 16:9 I think you want something around 720p ...

1280x720 16:9 Widescreen
1360x768 16:9 Widescreen

but even 480p looks good when the source is clean ...

852x480 16:9 Widescreen
post #1075 of 2822
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

No, you can't use an off-the-shelf cable. You need to use the one that came with it.

A 2-year old 435 dollar receiver with no digital input? Wow. My $299 receiver that's 5 years old has 8 digital inputs.

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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

No, I really doubt it. Like I said ... it's a special cable. If you want to make sure it works, you will have to contact WD and buy it directly from them. Or, find the one that came with it in the box.

Something doesn't "add up" about your receiver. What Make and Model is it? What country are you in?

I agree it's weird that my receiver don't have digital inputs.
The model is Yamaha RX-497, and i live in Sweden.

I checked up the most expensive stereo receiver i could find, i found NAD C725BEE, and it doesn't have a single HDMI connection, and apparently it doesn't have a single digital input either, except some ipod thing but who cares about that.
Stereo receivers are really a joke.
post #1076 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Can't you just connect the USB-HDD it to the SMP and turn it into a "media hub"?

Your other way ... read directions carefully in the E3000 docs. Call them or post in their forums. I like your 4gb flash drive test. Maybe the storage devices need to be formatted a certain way?

I forgot to mention that I have the older WD TV Live (not the newest version) flashed with B-rad's firmware.
Can the HDD still be attached to the streamer and be turned into a "media hub"?
post #1077 of 2822
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Originally Posted by Blackbird_CaD_ View Post

I agree it's weird that my receiver don't have digital inputs.
The model is Yamaha RX-497, and i live in Sweden.
.....
.

You two are talking about two different types of receivers. The Yamaha RX-497 is a stereo receiver. It has a few 2-channel analog inputs. Some people would just call it integrated amp.

Most people use AVRs (Audio Video Receivers) for home theater/movie applications. These AVRs usually have more than 2 channels of amplification, and take both digital/analog inputs.
post #1078 of 2822
I'm looking for a streamer to provide Netflix access, and stream SD movies from a Windows Home Server share wirelessly, to my kids' TV. The files on the server are mostly h.264 MP4 files with AAC passthru audio (EDIT: I won't be plugging this into a receiver, so the WDTVLS will need to be able to down-mix to 2.0), with a smattering of MKV files and a couple AVI files which I can re-rip to MP4 if need be.

I don't need anything fancy, and I'm not concerned with a super top-quality image, since the TV is a basic 26" Panny Viera. I'm mainly concerned with ease-of-use, format compatibility, and stable wireless operation. Although if streaming over wifi proves troublesome, I can always manually copy the kids' movies to a portable HDD.

Would the WDTVLS fit the bill here? I've been searching the internet for a clear video of the network streaming interface, but I can't tell if it's really very kid-friendly or not.

Also, how is the user experience browsing and playing music over the network?
post #1079 of 2822
[quote=WDFan1970;21429557]No, you can't use an off-the-shelf cable. You need to use the one that came with it.

What's special about the A/V cable that comes with the SMP? It looks standard to me. Thanks!
post #1080 of 2822
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Originally Posted by vett93 View Post

You two are talking about two different types of receivers. The Yamaha RX-497 is a stereo receiver. It has a few 2-channel analog inputs. Some people would just call it integrated amp.

Most people use AVRs (Audio Video Receivers) for home theater/movie applications. These AVRs usually have more than 2 channels of amplification, and take both digital/analog inputs.

I know.
Doesn't there exist a AV stereo receiver?
I don't understand why stereo receivers have no HDMI, no digital connections, no internet stuff or anything, but surround receivers suddenly have it all.
Stereo= has nothing
Surround= has everything
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