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post #1681 of 4686
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Originally Posted by JonHoule View Post

If anyone had the choice today to buy the WDTV Live SMP or the WDTV Live Plus...which one would you get?

I have a lead on a used Live Plus...but I'm not sure if I shouldn't just get the new SMP. Mainly because I'll be streaming all my content from my NAS (DNS-323) over my LAN.

Any thoughts?

SMP hands down. It does everything the Plus does, does it better, and does more.
post #1682 of 4686
My laptop will not play MKV files but my WD has no problem what program do I need for my laptop to be able to play them?
post #1683 of 4686
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

SMP hands down. It does everything the Plus does, does it better, and does more.

Except for reliably streaming high bitrate BluRay files over SMB without stutter . The Live+ currently wins the race on that one.
post #1684 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Except for reliably streaming high bitrate BluRay files over SMB without stutter . The Live+ currently wins the race on that one.

Heheh... Does MORE may include bugs.
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Originally Posted by Tooley View Post

My laptop will not play MKV files but my WD has no problem what program do I need for my laptop to be able to play them?

Try Vlc media player it plays everything!
post #1686 of 4686
Hello Guys...
I have some questions and need your advice about WD TV Live

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post #1687 of 4686
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Originally Posted by mrr19121970 View Post

... WDTV Live (77 euro KMShop collected) to compare.

The WDTV needs 57 seconds before showing the video/audio. This of course is live TV, which makes channel changng simply unacceptable. Anyone else have any joy with the DVBViewer recording service as a DLNA server?
post #1688 of 4686
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Originally Posted by mrr19121970 View Post

This of course is live TV, which makes channel changng simply unacceptable. Anyone else have any joy with the DVBViewer recording service as a DLNA server?

In the past I have played around with HDHomeRun and several streamers... Boxee Box, WD TV, etc, and for recordings all was well. However for live TV not so much. To the extent I keep a unsubbed TiVo Premiere lying around. With the older software you can get use its trick play features such as pause, rewind, etc. For $60 it's extremely non-techie but effective. If you are outside the US... never mind.
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Originally Posted by Jaypesos05 View Post


Try Vlc media player it plays everything!

Thanks I will try that
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

If you are outside the US... never mind.

Yes, too bad for me.

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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

SMP hands down. It does everything the Plus does, does it better, and does more.

Can you please elaborate on this argument? Is loosing the ability of WDLXTV compensated by the new features?
post #1691 of 4686
when playing mkv files how do i get for the unit to display subtitles? the mkv and subtitle are named the same.
post #1692 of 4686
There is a subtitle button just under the power button on the remote. It should toggle the subtitles on/off (and cycle through multiple languages).
post #1693 of 4686
Will the SMP play side by side 3D videos?
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Is there any way to stop the WD from turning off by itself?

I got a few of them for a customer whom keeps them on 24/7 to use as E-boards. He tells me that the next morning or maybe 2 days, the WD will seem to be off. He has to hit a button on remote or something like that to get it alive again.

And no it's not the screen saver. Lol. We made sure that is was disabled.

Hope someone knows how to keep it on 24/7.

BTW it's the newest WD with new GUI, no hard drive model.

Thanks
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E-Board? Have you checked the menus? Is there a sleep-timer already?
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DTS-HD MA on WDTV (Idea Lab Thread)

I've been following this issue since WDTV Gen 1, can't give slack.

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Originally Posted by SalemSwift View Post

Don't forget that in addition to Netgear's media players, Boxee Box, Dune, Xtreamer, Popcorn Hour, and etc. have been capable of both HD audio formats for over a year, now. Why is WDTV left out in the cold on this matter? It's 2012, DTS-HD MA has been requested since the launch of WDTV almost 4 years ago, November 2008.

Dolby TrueHD is far from standard these days, count the number of Blu-ray movies you own that contain a Dolby TrueHD track... DTS-HD MA dominates Blu-ray.

When the competitors support both HD audio formats, how long can WDTV users believe this is some licensing issue? Do we need to say please?

PUH-LEASE!!!
post #1698 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Bran81 View Post

I've been following this issue since WDTV Gen 1, can't give slack.

I much prefer the WD TV Live Streaming over the NeoTV 550 but since it does DTS-HD MA I returned the WD and went with a NeoTV.
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Originally Posted by Bran81 View Post

DTS-HD MA on WDTV (Idea Lab Thread)

I've been following this issue since WDTV Gen 1, can't give slack.

I would be near the front of the line of those wanting DTS-HD on my WD Live players. Fact of the matter though, is that I can stream DTS-HD titles through my BD player which bitstreams DTS-HD to my AVR -- admittedly, I can't hear any difference between DTS and DTS-HD with my audio setup, which is not a cheap HT in-a-box, not by any means. But I still want it on my WD players.

I really should stop obsessing about wanting DTS-HD on the Live-SMP -- but I can't. It's like many BD titles when compared to the DVD version played on my Oppo player to my 50" plasma -- the PQ improvement is barely perceptible but in principal it is technically better so I want it. Oh, nuts
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Does anyone know how to load US Netflix and also BBC iPlayer at once?

Would it work putting iPlayer on with a UK VPN then save it as a favorite then reset with your US IP address to get a geolocation check to load the US Netflix? Then you could use iPlayer form the favorites?
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

admittedly, I can't hear any difference between DTS and DTS-HD with my audio setup

Which is the reason I don't care at all. But Im annoyed as hell that WD comes up with excuses that just don't hold enough water.
post #1702 of 4686
For playing mkv's on our laptops try Zoomplayer as well. With Coreavc and ac3filter plays everything I throw at it. MPC is also pretty decent as well. To recently didn't know it was quite as nice as it is. Although use to Zoomplayer so it's my goto as we say.

brickie
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I have been trying to get my SMP configured to work well, but I seem to have problems. I have my movies stored (3 TB) on a NAS (QNAP TS-219+) mostly in .iso but a few in .vob or .m2ts. I have also scraped thumbnails for all. I have a totally wired network. When I try to set it up as a Network Share, I have good thumbnail support but BD rips stutter with either .iso or .m2ts files (Avatar, Star trek 2009, etc). If I change and use the Twonky Media Server in my NAS, the movies (.m2ts) stream OK but I get no thumbnails, and since most of my media is in .iso I would have a huge conversion effort. I have tried both the 1.07.18 and the new 1.08.17 firmware. Is there a better solution?
post #1704 of 4686
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

SMP hands down. It does everything the Plus does, does it better, and does more.

Is Netflix constant sign-in bug fixed on SMP ? Or does it play 50p or 60p camcorder videos without stutter yet? Last I checked (months ago) SMP was failing regarding those.

BTW does SMP play PGS subtitles within MKV without problem yet? WDTV Live+ would not, only VobSub which is pain while backing up BD's you need to run it through BDSup2Sub, it is quick but anyway ...
post #1705 of 4686
(Non animated) PGS subs are displayed when compressed with zlib which is done automatically while remuxing with MKVToolnix.
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I much prefer the WD TV Live Streaming over the NeoTV 550 but since it does DTS-HD MA I returned the WD and went with a NeoTV.

I don't really care about HD audio but I did buy a WD TV Streaming and found it terribly slow when metadata was set to auto. The whole device seemed to be a far cry from XBMC, Plex or even the Boxee Box. In addition, the wireless network seemed to disconnect a lot (wired was fine). Perhaps I didn't give it a fair shot but it seemed underpowered for what it was attempting. I also found both the Roku2 and ATV2 to have a better netflix gui.

Perhaps using it with local storage would have been faster?

philip
post #1707 of 4686
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

I don't really care about HD audio but I did buy a WD TV Streaming and found it terribly slow when metadata was set to auto. The whole device seemed to be a far cry from XBMC, Plex or even the Boxee Box. In addition, the wireless network seemed to disconnect a lot (wired was fine). Perhaps I didn't give it a fair shot but it seemed underpowered for what it was attempting. I also found both the Roku2 and ATV2 to have a better netflix gui.

Perhaps using it with local storage would have been faster?

philip

I bought a WDTV2 for my parents, and they do not have any issues with wireless connectivity. They can even stream Vudu HD movies without any issues. I was very surprised.
post #1708 of 4686
It might be too early to tell, but I upgraded mine yesterday, and NetFlix did NOT nag me to re-authorize this morning. So far so good.

The release notes do say that is fixed, but time will tell.

@jsinco: I don't use BD ISO rips, but I do use the raw M2TS files from the BD rips; I've not had any issues with them stuttering in 1.07.xx. I only tried one M2TS file last night after upgrading, and it played fine at 1.08.17 as well via Network Share.

BTW, I'm using a QNAP TS-412.
post #1709 of 4686
My interface needs are very utilitarian, which is why the Live+ and Live-SMP players have suited me well. I have no use for a flashy UI, movie walls or scraping meta data. I don't want to spend any more time than it takes to rip a main_title.m2ts or DVD.iso to my NAS units. I like a clean and simple organized title list that navigates responsively and the Live-SMP gives me that. Titles on my NAS units do not have permanent residence -- I don't hesitate to delete old stuff we'll never watch again to make room for new stuff.

For me, the biggest improvement of the Live-SMP over the Live+ is the Live-SMP's quick-start standby mode - hit the power button and it is on in seconds. The Live+ has to do a full power up every time you turn it on and it takes "forever". I would hit the button on my Harmony, all the other components would be up and ready while we stare at a blank screen waiting for just the first power up screen from the Live+.

There are other smaller improvements, like a direct remote button to toggle subtitles. There are also a number of steps backward, like the menus taking too many button pushes to navigate through and the troubles the Live-SMP is still having playing high bitrate BD.m2ts files over SMB.

Overall though, the single feature that made me replace my Live+ with the Live-SMP in my main viewing room is the quick-start standby mode. Other than that, the two units would have been more or less a wash for me and I would have happily stayed with the Live+ (which has been redeployed to my daughter's TV).
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

I don't use BD ISO rips, but I do use the raw M2TS files from the BD rips;

I just wish to comment that there is really nothing raw about .m2ts files. They are the native BD title containers on the disk. Since my beginning days with the Live+, I have always found the WD players are most happy with BD.m2ts files -- I have never had a problem playing one as far as video, audio and subtitles contained in any BD.m2ts I have pulled off a disk. Not surprising; you would think any media player purporting to play HD would fully support the standard native container on a BD disk. There were some reports a while ago in other threads that suggested the Sigma chips had support for directly playing .m2ts files in hardware.

I know you didn't mean to suggest it, but I just wanted to prevent anyone from thinking that BD.m2ts are somehow inferior and that they should needlessly repackage the streams into some other container format.
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