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post #2221 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Holiday121 View Post

I'm looking to have a cool interface that shows details about the movie and picture. Can someone help me out and how to start that. I'm thinking about just running external hard drives to the wd live and maybe use a hub. Bypass connecting to a computer

 

 Search through WD's site and you will find Mojo, Darklight and CoCo themes that members have made for the SMP.

post #2222 of 4686
I'm about to buy the latest model WD TV Live and have been scouring the web for hours to try and get an answer to one of my concerns. I have a Pioneer VSX-84TSXi receiver (top of the line in 2006 when I got it and not yet ready for replacement) that supports a ton of formats but unfortunately not Dolby Digital PLUS. One of my primary reasons for wanting the WD Live TV is to stream Netflix and my understanding is that 5.1 surround from supported Netflix titles is delivered via Dolby Digital PLUS, which, if passed directly to my receiver without any encoding/conversion to normal Dolby Digital, would not work.

I read somewhere that the WD Live Plus (unlike the Roku and some other players) COULD actually send the DD+ signal as normal Dolby Digital, but only if connected to my receiver via the Optical out rather than HDMI.

Can someone who has faced a similar situation please confirm for me if this is the case?

Many thanks.
post #2223 of 4686
A few comments:

I bought the PlayOn+PlayLater bundle. Both seem pretty good so far, except for some reason PlayLater recording seems to stress my laptop - the fan gets quite a workout. Usually that only happens with heavy use of the Nvidia card, e.g. on Elder Scrolls games. I suppose the MP4 encoding must be the culprit. It's a 2009 Vista 3.5ghz T9400 with 4GB. I record directly to a NAS drive. I've tried some CBS, ABC and HIST recordings with no problems so far...

The time on my WDTV was off by 30 minutes. This morning I did a factory reset and it's pretty close now. I didn't think to just try unplugging it to see if that might have reset the time.

My main complaint is that the WDTV doesn't give me a clean view of media folders on 2 NAS drives. I can see all root folders on one drive, or all on the other. No way to filter out junk like backup folders, and the NAS drives won't let me delete the unwanted folders. I can add all the folders to my media library, but then I lose the folder structure and just see one big mishmash of files. I have 3 TV folders on one drive and 2 on the other. I just want the VIDEOS screen to show me those 5 folders so I can drill into the one I want.

I also have some issues with the built-in streaming services. Sometimes I click Youtube and it freezes up for several minutes before even displaying the logo screen. Searching is impossibly slow. At the same time, Youtube through PlayOn responds in seconds. Same thing happened when I accidentally clicked Netflix - I finally gave up on backing out and pulled the plug. But I don't plan to use those much so I'm not going to waste time on it for now at least...

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post #2224 of 4686
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Originally Posted by rx-8 View Post

Am I making too big a deal of not having DTS-MA?
Yes you are. Buy one and try it. It is a great little player.
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Hey guys, so I just picked up a Roku 2 XS as I KNEW it streamed MKV files, but I THOUGHT it streamed WAV/FLAC audio files.....I was wrong.

I'm looking for something that will stream my MKV files and all my WAV/FLAC audio from my PC about 40' away. Is the WDlive the one for me? I've read AppleTV will do WAV b/c it can be loaded into Itunes, but won't do MKV...they say you have to use Handbrake or a conversion tool to convert MKV --> M4V. If the WDLive has a nice interface and is easy to use then I'll just get that b/c I wont have to convert anything, etc.

The Roku 2 XS interface is kinda meh and it dropped audio 4 times on the first movie I watch. (have only watch that one so far). Had to restart it and reboot 4 times, then found that a switch of audio from 5.1 to Stereo might help...and it did, but I don't want to watch in Stereo every time!! No way.

Thanks for all the help and hope to hear from you all soon! smile.gif
post #2226 of 4686
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

Hey guys, so I just picked up a Roku 2 XS as I KNEW it streamed MKV files, but I THOUGHT it streamed WAV/FLAC audio files.....I was wrong.
I'm looking for something that will stream my MKV files and all my WAV/FLAC audio from my PC about 40' away. Is the WDlive the one for me? I've read AppleTV will do WAV b/c it can be loaded into Itunes, but won't do MKV...they say you have to use Handbrake or a conversion tool to convert MKV --> M4V. If the WDLive has a nice interface and is easy to use then I'll just get that b/c I wont have to convert anything, etc.
The Roku 2 XS interface is kinda meh and it dropped audio 4 times on the first movie I watch. (have only watch that one so far). Had to restart it and reboot 4 times, then found that a switch of audio from 5.1 to Stereo might help...and it did, but I don't want to watch in Stereo every time!! No way.
Thanks for all the help and hope to hear from you all soon! smile.gif

Well I'm a complete rookie - had the WDTV Live for about 10 days now.

WD says it supports WAV & FLAC here:

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2698/p/208,333/session/L3RpbWUvMTM1NTE5MDk3Ni9zaWQvS2c4TmpyZGw%3D#live

but I haven't tried either. I bought it for MKV support - I didn't even know any of the Roku models had MKV. It works great with that so far. I rip recordings from Funai DVRs with MakeMKV - I would never consider re-encoding to another format.

Mine is about 25' from my N600 router, through 3 walls - I get a 2-bar signal that seems to be good enough for streaming from NAS drives and from a PlayOn server.

I'm not a big fan of the WDTV interface, but I suspect all streamers are cluttered up with a lot of garbage I don't want. I would trash all the menus except Settings, Files and Video if I could.

The extra USB port is a nice feature - I have a cheapo wireless keyboard receiver in the rear port.

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post #2227 of 4686
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Originally Posted by DJWikiera View Post

 Search through WD's site and you will find Mojo, Darklight and CoCo themes that members have made for the SMP.

Actually only one member created all three of those themes. (Finger points at self) smile.gif
post #2228 of 4686
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

Well I'm a complete rookie - had the WDTV Live for about 10 days now.
WD says it supports WAV & FLAC here:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2698/p/208,333/session/L3RpbWUvMTM1NTE5MDk3Ni9zaWQvS2c4TmpyZGw%3D#live
but I haven't tried either. I bought it for MKV support - I didn't even know any of the Roku models had MKV. It works great with that so far. I rip recordings from Funai DVRs with MakeMKV - I would never consider re-encoding to another format.
Mine is about 25' from my N600 router, through 3 walls - I get a 2-bar signal that seems to be good enough for streaming from NAS drives and from a PlayOn server.
I'm not a big fan of the WDTV interface, but I suspect all streamers are cluttered up with a lot of garbage I don't want. I would trash all the menus except Settings, Files and Video if I could.
The extra USB port is a nice feature - I have a cheapo wireless keyboard receiver in the rear port.
CC

You can, you can edit anything you want out of the main menu by editing the theme xmls.
post #2229 of 4686
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

A few comments:

My main complaint is that the WDTV doesn't give me a clean view of media folders on 2 NAS drives. I can see all root folders on one drive, or all on the other. No way to filter out junk like backup folders, and the NAS drives won't let me delete the unwanted folders. I can add all the folders to my media library, but then I lose the folder structure and just see one big mishmash of files. I have 3 TV folders on one drive and 2 on the other. I just want the VIDEOS screen to show
CC


You have to add your networks shares to the media library. Go to Setup / System / Media Library / Media Library Manager for Network Share, then add your folders.

Then select Video, Music or Photos and press the red button on the remote and select My Media Library. Then only the folders and media files will show up.
post #2230 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Tinwarble View Post

You have to add your networks shares to the media library. Go to Setup / System / Media Library / Media Library Manager for Network Share, then add your folders.
Then select Video, Music or Photos and press the red button on the remote and select My Media Library. Then only the folders and media files will show up.

Thanks! I got the filtering and list views I want in the Files and Videos screens. I learned that in order to be visible, folders have to contain at least one media file in Folders, or one video file in Videos. With all of the video files in subfolders, the top folder wasn't displayed...

(Deleted first reply after finding additional info...)

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post #2231 of 4686
It's a nice feature I would love to use, but unfortunately it doesn't work with .iso files. Those aren't considered media or video files and so they don't appear.
post #2232 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

It's a nice feature I would love to use, but unfortunately it doesn't work with .iso files. Those aren't considered media or video files and so they don't appear.

What? ISOs work for me in the Media Library just fine. They're just considered a Video file just like MKV / AVI / MP4 / etc...
post #2233 of 4686
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

What? ISOs work for me in the Media Library just fine. They're just considered a Video file just like MKV / AVI / MP4 / etc...
Hmmm . . . . it's been a long, long time since I tried the Media Library -- many, many firmware revisions ago. I never bothered with it again since it didn't work with .iso when I first got the Live-SMP when it came out. I'll have to give it a second look. They probably have made changes in the firmware for .iso.
post #2234 of 4686
i got mine today for $70... nice interface and works really good.
post #2235 of 4686
First impressions; great little unit, but not great quality control.

A little background, I’ve be using a HTPC since the early 90’s (they weren’t called that then) I currently have 2 HTPCs, 2 Sony LED TVs, and 2 Sony BD players, all streaming HD movie files and Netflix. Most are 720p MKV files because of Sony’s limitations, about a 50/50 split between DD5.1 and DTS sound. I also stream Netflix and just started Amazon Prime. They are all connected through Netgear Powerline and a couple of routers acting as switches, everything works fine. So over all I’m very familiar with the whole process.

The main reason for trying this unit is that Sony’s streaming capability is a little limited. With the help of Serviio (a great program) everything plays well, but not DTS from files and no DD5.1 from Netflix. So always in search of a little better, I thought I’d give it a shot. The ultimate goal it to cut or greatly reduce my cable costs.

First off I had to get 3 units before one worked correctly, that why I say there are QC issues. The first one would not go out to the internet and the second one would not see any of my shares. Since I was confident everything was set up correctly, it had to be a problem with the units.

The third one worked as it should, easy setup, went to the internet and installed the latest firmware, connected to all my shares, saw all my files, and was able to get all the info for about 225 of my 256 files. The rest of the files, I need to select the correct movie from a list, very simple setup, very clean. I was able to stream all my files butter smooth, including the few 1080P files that I have. I was also getting DTS which was important to me, although it was only 5.1, which I understand is a unit limitation, I didn’t manually set up the receiver, I let the unit auto detect the receiver’s capabilities.

Next was Netflix, at first, to say the least, I was very disappointed. It was barely able to get to the interface and that took over 5 minutes and it couldn’t play a movie at all, just stuck on loading. My Netflix is set to stream the highest quality and works on all my other devices, so I knew it was some issue with the unit. I didn’t want to reduce the quality of the steaming from Netflix. I guessed that is was caching data and didn’t have enough room to do it properly, so I attached a hard drive to the unit and that did it. It seemed to start working fine. I unplugged the HD and put in a 1 gig thumb drive and it work great, High HD and 5.1 sound when available. I think there is higher than High HD but I haven’t gotten that yet, but I’ve only watched a few moves for a short period of time. The movies start quickly and gets to High HD in 30 seconds to 1 min.

It also work great with my Sony TV and receiver, the Sony remote can control it and the WD remote can turn on and off all the components for an easy 1 button on and off.

So over all I’m very happy with the unit. If you’re having trouble with your shares and you can see the PC that the files are on, but not the folders, it’s probably a homegroup issue. Right click on the folder, take share with, take specific people, remove homegroup (it’s probably there), than add everyone read/ write. After that you’ll be able to see your files if the unit is working properly. If you can’t see the PC you aren’t on the same network, change the unit from “Workgroup” to whatever you PC is on. You can check that by looking at the computers properties. Also make sure you login as an admin. Once you get it working you can tighten it down. If you having slow Netflix response, try adding a thumb drive to the unit and that should fix that issue.

If those fixes don’t work, you may have a bad unit, return it and try another. As soon as I got a good one the difference was night and day.

Next I’ll going to get a HD receiver hook it up with a hard drive and try the DVR feature, I’ll let you know how I make out.

If you see anything wrong please correct.

Thanks
TC
post #2236 of 4686
Netflix recently re-encoded their HD titles using new methods that allow more compression without losing detail. X-High/HD is no longer used. High/HD is now the 1080p feed.

As far as storage helping Netflix to work, I've never had issues. Nothing is connected to mine.
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So does that mean ANYTHING that says HIGH/HD is 1080p?

I've always thought it odd that NetFlix doesn't actually indicate in the listings what the quality is -- Not everything is HD. And the things that are marked HD could be 720 or 1080.
post #2238 of 4686
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

Netflix recently re-encoded their HD titles using new methods that allow more compression without losing detail. X-High/HD is no longer used. High/HD is now the 1080p feed.
As far as storage helping Netflix to work, I've never had issues. Nothing is connected to mine.

Thanks for the info, I won't spend the weekend trying to get X-High/HD : biggrin.gif

I pulled the thumb drive an Netflix works fine, not sure what was up yesterday...User error!
post #2239 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Tconnors View Post

First off I had to get 3 units before one worked correctly, that why I say there are QC issues. The first one would not go out to the internet and the second one would not see any of my shares. Since I was confident everything was set up correctly, it had to be a problem with the units.
We read that a lot, however, in the majority of cases it turns out everything wasn't set up correctly or something was interfering. Glad, it worked out for you, though.
post #2240 of 4686
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

So does that mean ANYTHING that says HIGH/HD is 1080p?
I've always thought it odd that NetFlix doesn't actually indicate in the listings what the quality is -- Not everything is HD. And the things that are marked HD could be 720 or 1080.
I think 720p would show up as Medium/HD now. Also, if it shows 5.1 audio, then that usually means 1080p is available.
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Hey guys, I just returned my Roku 2 XS yesterday for the WD-TV Live SMP. The reasoning behind it was because I have a lot of files on my PC that are .mkv and .wav/.flac. Roku handled the .mkv's fine (which I'm hoping the WDlive does also), but I found out it didn't do .wav/.flac formats. I REALLY didn't want to convert all my stuff, so I'm hoping this is a better player! The Roku had to be rebooted 4-5 times and had the audio drop out every once in awhile..that's only in the 4 days I had it! Anyways...

My main goals for this player are:

- To stream audio from my PC (in the study about 35' away) in .wav/.flac formats
- To stream movies from my PC in .mkv/.m4v, etc formats

I've got Pandora up and running, but I'm not sure how I 'link" my PC with the WD SMP I've got. It's already on my wireless connection and working flawlessly (no dropout or skipping with Pandora). I've got my speakers shipping to me today so I'd like to be ready to go when they get here if I can biggrin.gif:D . Do I need to download a server or something? On the Roku I was using something called "Plex Media Server" and it worked fine, but the Roku obviously didn't play the audio formats I wanted. All my files are on my PC (built PC and should be able to handle pretty much anything if needed).

What do I need to do?

Thank you soooo much smile.gif
post #2242 of 4686
Basically, you just "Share" the folder(s) that contain your media as a WIndows Network Share.
Then your WD connects to that to access the files.

Voila.
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Thanks for the quick reply..

When I right-click my Torrents/Music folder and choose "Share With" I get:

Nobody (with a lock next to it)
Homegroup (read)
Homegroup (read/write)
Specific People (* I tried this and I looked for something along the lines of "wd live", "wd tv live", etc but didn't find anything)



Just watched a video on Youtube about it and the person created a new user/guest named "WDLive" and then logged back onto his account, then "Share With"....add "WDLive" and that seemed to do it for him & what seems like everyone else in the comments. I'm guessing I can't just "share with" everyone correct? I have to make a new user on the PC yeah?
Edited by ousooner2 - 12/17/12 at 2:12pm
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Share with...
Specific People...
EVERYONE, READ/WRITE

is what most people do...
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I did that and for some reason I can see folder (movies), but not my music folder. Heres how its set up..

(FOLDER) Torrents/Music
(Sub-Folder).. Movies (has all my .mkv files)
(Sub-Folder)..Music (has all my .wav files)

Another weird thing is that it shows my "Movies" folder on the wdtv, but on most of the movie titles ill click and it says "no content" or something to that effect. Weird bc there is definitely something in there. Add that to the fact I cant see my Music folder & im getting flustered lol
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I have a first generate Live HD and it's had intermittent audio slippage issues with MKVs from the day I bought it. Anyone know if has this been resolved in newer models?
post #2247 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Rob Campbell View Post

I have a first generate Live HD and it's had intermittent audio slippage issues with MKVs from the day I bought it. Anyone know if has this been resolved in newer models?

Try a new rip with MakeMKV directly from a real disc.

 

No problems playing MKV here (even lossless 5.1 directly from BD)


Edited by Tesla1856 - 12/17/12 at 6:44pm
post #2248 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

It's a nice feature I would love to use, but unfortunately it doesn't work with .iso files. Those aren't considered media or video files and so they don't appear.

As far as I know, it's always worked for ISO's. If it hasn't, then it is because of your setup or you have been using a media server. As said, ISO's are treated like any other single container file (ie: mkv, avi, mp4, etc.)
post #2249 of 4686
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Originally Posted by Rob Campbell View Post

I have a first generate Live HD and it's had intermittent audio slippage issues with MKVs from the day I bought it. Anyone know if has this been resolved in newer models?

I've ripped over 500 MKV's with MakeMKV, and I haven't seen the issue you're referring to in quite a while.
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I just bought a WD TV Live, connected it, and updated to firmware 1.12.14. My question is this, how the heck do you add more channels/services? Hulu, Pandora, and Vudu are NOT available anywhere in the list of channel categories. WD advertises all three of those channels as being available and I know people here are using them with the WD TV. Searching google, this forum, and other forums unearthed no answers. Is the answer something ridiculously silly like I need to revert back to an older FW? I've tried resetting the device via the bottom reset button and still no dice.
Edited by Tighe - 12/19/12 at 7:42pm
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