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post #3031 of 4712
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

I'm still not quite clear - where exactly are the video files? I thought they were on your computer, but you say your idea was to watch them on the SMP with the computer turned off, but not by copying to a USB device?

Any NAS should work - I don't recommend the GoFlex, but only because of its comparatively poor reliability record - so far mine has worked perfectly. (If they're under $50/TB again this Black Friday I'll buy a few more TBs and start backing up some of my favorites) Also FWIW I have an old USB drive on the SMP - MakeMKV will rip directly to that drive, and I can also record directly to it with PlayLater (I almost always record first, rather than streaming directly from the internet to the SMP)...

CC
Sorry, below is "my" setup, but not the entire family setup. Too much going on to list here, lol.

Room #1 All wired via Cat6 Ethernet from a Asus Switch.
My Computer (Wired)
My SMP (Wired)
My BluRay Player (Wired)
DirecTV (Wired)
My Laptop (WIFi)
My Nexus 7 (WiFi)
55" Sony SXRD

The WHS2011 Server is located next to the Router about 75 feet away from me, in another room entirely, since its a family wide Server. I have four hard drives attached and assigned to different people. The video files are on my hard drive inside the WHS2011 Server, in a folder labeled "Videos" and each movie is in its own folder, which is labeled in such a way that my little brother can access from his Netbook and know right away if they will play or not (1080p will not play for him). His Netbook is in his Camper trailer (lol) on the other side of the property. He has his Netbook attached to the Server via WiFi (Wireless N). His 10.1" Netbook (the only computer he owns) is attached to a 21" Monitor which he uses for movies, but only DVD rips can be played from it reliably. He can play some 720p but only if I remove much of the quality first. The other three individuals do not use the Server for streaming but just for file backups. I use it for both file backups, storing my data and for storing movies/music. It is much to far away to connect via USB. However, I could copy and then paste to a 1tb external hard drive I have next to the SMP, but not sure I want to since its only USB 2.0. MPC-HC has the best PQ of almost any player so if I decide to turn on my desktop to copy over files to the external usb hard drive, I might as well just watch the movie with the Desktop. The desktop (which sits less than 2 feet away from the TV) is attached to my Sony TV via HDMI, so its very easy to transfer the movie over to Screen #2 (the Sony TV), literally drag and drop with MPC-HC. By the time the movie is over my room will be about 80 degrees, which is the temp I start to experience discomfort. Maybe I should sell the AC and get one with a higher rating, lol...

Anyway, do you think WD will ever release a firmware that has a more reliable Network driver/connection? I mean if other computers can connect so easily without trouble shouldn't the SMP also?
post #3032 of 4712
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

... But as WDFan has pointed out this device does not work with media servers, only NAS devices. I could install FreeNAS I guess but that will take time, not to mention whs2011 is working brilliantly and cost money to build that server....

FWIW, it does work with media servers. I use Mezzmo daily and my new WDTVLIVE and WDTVLiveHub access and play it's files perfectly.
post #3033 of 4712
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Originally Posted by DeadEd View Post

FWIW, it does work with media servers. I use Mezzmo daily and my new WDTVLIVE and WDTVLiveHub access and play it's files perfectly.
Hmm, interesting. That is kinda like what Plex does. I assume there is a setup guide to show you how to connect your WDTV to the server? Is there a free trial?
post #3034 of 4712
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

Anyway, do you think WD will ever release a firmware that has a more reliable Network driver/connection? I mean if other computers can connect so easily without trouble shouldn't the SMP also?
It does for me.
post #3035 of 4712
I am happy for you but not sure how your success helps me. Are you offering to send me your device?
post #3036 of 4712
SkOrPn, I think a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that you're mixing lots of issues together as if they're synonymous.

You're also taking folks' answers and applying them to a completely different context. For example, you took my post saying that Content Info collection doesn't work for FOLDERS or MEDIA SERVERS to mean that the WDTV doesn't work at all with Media Servers, which is not correct at all.

Initially, you were having problems collecting metadata because of filenames.
Then it turns out you're trying to collect metadata when connected via Media Server connection and FOLDER names.
In all of that, you never mentioned connection issues, just that you can't see certain files.
Now you say you're implying that you also have basic network connection problems. (when you said "I mean if other computers can connect so easily without trouble shouldn't the SMP also?")

Try sticking with ONE issue at a time. All this bouncing around may be masking or clouding issues.

You might also try posting at the WD Community, as this forum really isn't the best place for troubleshooting complex issues.

But back to your "Missing Files" issue. Did you try my suggestion a few posts up?

If it still doesn't work, please tell me an example file name that is not showing up. And be EXACT; don't give a summary answer, please.

Should be something like: Avatar (2009)(1080p).mkv
Not: Movie Title (Resolution)(source)(Something Else).(whatever extension)
Edited by WDFan1970 - 8/6/13 at 4:50am
post #3037 of 4712
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

Are you offering to send me your device?
Nope, I was simply countering your definitive statement. Also, because it won't make any difference since the hardware is identical which would suggest that the problem is most likely on your end/system/configuration. Just like WDFan said, if you approach this methodically, people here might be able to help you out.
post #3038 of 4712
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

Sorry, below is "my" setup, but not the entire family setup. Too much going on to list here, lol.

Room #1 All wired via Cat6 Ethernet from a Asus Switch.
My Computer (Wired)
My SMP (Wired)
My BluRay Player (Wired)
DirecTV (Wired)
My Laptop (WIFi)
My Nexus 7 (WiFi)
55" Sony SXRD

The WHS2011 Server is located next to the Router about 75 feet away from me, in another room entirely, since its a family wide Server. I have four hard drives attached and assigned to different people. The video files are on my hard drive inside the WHS2011 Server, in a folder labeled "Videos" and each movie is in its own folder, which is labeled in such a way that my little brother can access from his Netbook and know right away if they will play or not (1080p will not play for him). His Netbook is in his Camper trailer (lol) on the other side of the property. He has his Netbook attached to the Server via WiFi (Wireless N). His 10.1" Netbook (the only computer he owns) is attached to a 21" Monitor which he uses for movies, but only DVD rips can be played from it reliably. He can play some 720p but only if I remove much of the quality first. The other three individuals do not use the Server for streaming but just for file backups. I use it for both file backups, storing my data and for storing movies/music. It is much to far away to connect via USB. However, I could copy and then paste to a 1tb external hard drive I have next to the SMP, but not sure I want to since its only USB 2.0. MPC-HC has the best PQ of almost any player so if I decide to turn on my desktop to copy over files to the external usb hard drive, I might as well just watch the movie with the Desktop. The desktop (which sits less than 2 feet away from the TV) is attached to my Sony TV via HDMI, so its very easy to transfer the movie over to Screen #2 (the Sony TV), literally drag and drop with MPC-HC. By the time the movie is over my room will be about 80 degrees, which is the temp I start to experience discomfort. Maybe I should sell the AC and get one with a higher rating, lol...

Anyway, do you think WD will ever release a firmware that has a more reliable Network driver/connection? I mean if other computers can connect so easily without trouble shouldn't the SMP also?

Thanks for the clarification - I didn't realize there was a separate server in the picture. So if I understand correctly, you can use your desktop to "serve" all of your media to the SMP, but the SMP itself is only accessing some subset of the main server's content. The question is why the desktop is able to see it all and the SMP isn't. I can understand your frustration - I wouldn't want to have to boot up my desktop just to watch a video either - and mine is only 450w - with 2 video cards yours must be 600w+...

I assume you've tried to pinpoint the problem by things like moving visible and invisible files into the same folder, renaming a visible file to an invisible name to see if it disappears, stuff like that? And I'm sure you're aware that the file's "validity" is irrelevant - I can rename a .TXT file to .MKV and the SMP rescan will find and display it. Sorry I can't be more helpful - all I can tell you is that my simpler configuration works fine.

BTW you mentioned your Nexus 7 - I'm leaning toward picking up the new model now that it's full-HD...

CC
post #3039 of 4712
to get the dts 1.5 mbps on wdtv live plus does the video have to have DTS MA audio stream? I have been just getting video with the regular DTS so I am just wondering am I getting the 1.5 mbps stream or what. Any help with this would be appreciated.
post #3040 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

to get the dts 1.5 mbps on wdtv live plus does the video have to have DTS MA audio stream? I have been just getting video with the regular DTS so I am just wondering am I getting the 1.5 mbps stream or what. Any help with this would be appreciated.

The WDTV Live Plus will only play the lossy DTS audio not the DTS-MA.

Bill
Edited by mrfattbill - 8/6/13 at 5:29pm
post #3041 of 4712
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

The WDTV Live Plus will only play the lossless DTS audio not the DTS-MA.

Bill

i know that but it will play the higher bitrate the 1.5 mbps
post #3042 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

i know that but it will play the higher bitrate the 1.5 mbps

Yes, it will play the DTS "core" at 1.5 mbps just fine.

Mike T
post #3043 of 4712
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Originally Posted by mtallent View Post

Yes, it will play the DTS "core" at 1.5 mbps just fine.

Mike T

I know that but does the video have to be DTS HD to do that ?
post #3044 of 4712
No, you can strip out the core and play just that without the need for the lossless extension. Most software that folks use, ClownBD and MakeMKV have this option.

Bill
post #3045 of 4712
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

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Originally Posted by DeadEd View Post

FWIW, it does work with media servers. I use Mezzmo daily and my new WDTVLIVE and WDTVLiveHub access and play it's files perfectly.
Hmm, interesting. That is kinda like what Plex does. I assume there is a setup guide to show you how to connect your WDTV to the server? Is there a free trial?

No, not setup guide. Just read the WDTV manual which you can find at the WDTV website. It had all the info I needed to connect. If you are asking about a free trial of the Mezzmo server, yes. I think it's a month but you will need to go and take a look for yourself.
post #3046 of 4712
Is there a way on the player I can see if I am getting the dts 1.5 mbps
post #3047 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

Is there a way on the player I can see if I am getting the dts 1.5 mbps
Not the player, your AVR display. My Live-SMP goes to my AVR via HDMI. Whatever audio type is bitstreamed from the Live-SMP is displayed on the front panel of the AVR. I have BD rips with the following audio tracks: True HD, DD-5.1 (AC3), DTS and DTS-HD. My AVR displays: True HD, Dolby Digital, DTS and DTS respectively. So whether the rip contains DTS or DTS-HD as the audio track, the Live-SMP will only bitstream DTS. DTS is the 1.5Mbps "core" of DTS-HD.
post #3048 of 4712
But does the bluray file have to have dts hd encoded in it to get the dts 1.5 mbps
post #3049 of 4712
Guess what I am trying to find out is some videos show up as dts when you press the option button on the remote to see the audio and other times it shows up as dtsma when will I get the dts 1.5 mbps when it just says dts or dtsma
post #3050 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

Guess what I am trying to find out is some videos show up as dts when you press the option button on the remote to see the audio and other times it shows up as dtsma when will I get the dts 1.5 mbps when it just says dts or dtsma

What are the sources of the videos in question? When you are seeing DTS-MA you will certainly be getting the 1.5 core. Depending on where the videos that just say DTS came from you can be getting anything. The easiest way to check the bitrate on the files is to use Mediainfo and look at the files via a PC.

I am racking my brain trying to think of a BR that has only DTS without the HD extensions.....

Bill
post #3051 of 4712
So my best bet is make sure it has dtsma to be sure I am getting the 1.5 mbps dts. I have mediainfo but to me it's confusing
post #3052 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

But does the bluray file have to have dts hd encoded in it to get the dts 1.5 mbps
This has been answered for you several times and the answer is still no.
post #3053 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

This has been answered for you several times and the answer is still no.


Well how can you tell if it is dts 1.5 and not regular dts
post #3054 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

Well how can you tell if it is dts 1.5 and not regular dts

Playing your own files so your sure of the source or Mediainfo.

Bill
post #3055 of 4712
Never mind guys I hot it figured out if it is a dts core it will be around 1510 kbps via mediainfo
post #3056 of 4712
So I guess the best audio that the wd Live TV plus can do is the dts 1.5 mbps am I right
post #3057 of 4712
So I guess the best audio that the wd Live TV plus can do is the dts 1.5 mbps am I right
post #3058 of 4712
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

So I guess the best audio that the wd Live TV plus can do is the dts 1.5 mbps am I right

On the DTS side yes, it will bitstream TrueHD.

Bill
post #3059 of 4712
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

On the DTS side yes, it will bitstream TrueHD.

Bill


Yea too bad there is only a few true hd out there
post #3060 of 4712
You can use MakeMKV and covert DTS-MA to FLAC.
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